2016 Panigale S Throttle issue

nanoplastic said:

Super abrupt throttle response (even when I keep it steady, bike lurches back and forth) and random engine stalls make the bike UNPREDICTABLE, thus UNSAFE. Heat coming from the saddle, not so much. I guess you missed my point.

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Prince Albert said:

Ok"¦Enough of this " I guess you missed the point" line of nonsense..
Either articulate your "point" explicitly to us masses or GTFO"¦

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Rogue said:

I don't think that anyone is getting your point. Unless your next post is in the For Sale section, I would suggest you move on.

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nanoplastic said:

I purchased one for the same reason why people trade in their 1199 for 1299. Or buy an R or an S instead of a base model. I believed 1299s had significant improvements over the 1198. The main issue lies in its controllability. Power is nothing without control, right?

Now, is it that hard for some of you to accept the fact that I made a regrettable decision? Have you not made any mistakes similar to mine ever?

Think of it this way. If Ducati came out with a new bike that mimicked a throttle response of an inline 4 and still retained all of its strengths (such as power and torque), fixed the stalling and heat issues and called a 1399, who here would say I like my bike just the way it is now, with all these inherent "problems" because that's the "characteristic" of the twin engine and these problems are what makes a Ducati a Ducati. This type of logic is simply ludicrous.

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NotR1GSXZXR said:

How did you get 2016 model in 2015 I thought they start selling them in March 2016 are you sure it's Ducati

Love this forum if it would be any other forum,it would be closed and deleted a long time ago, and this is the reasons to come here for more Thanks ������

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nanoplastic said:

I agree. And done. It's already arranged to be picked up tomorrow by the dealership. Now can anyone show me how to close this thread?

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nanoplastic said:

I agree. And done. It's already arranged to be picked up tomorrow by the dealership. Now can anyone show me how to close this thread?

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nanoplastic said:

I picked up a 2016 Panigale 1299 S a few weeks ago and finally had a chance to ride it on Sunday (I work 6 days a week and weather hasn't been all that great lately), and put about 40 miles on it.

Today I am sitting here contemplating on selling the stupid bike. And here is the reason why. While riding on the street like a normal human being, the bike simply doesn't work. Every turn I make on the street is a gamble with my life on this thing. Its nearly impossible to modulate the god damn throttle to make the POS turn smoothly without it bucking or surging, even in WET MODE with all the electronic aids turned on! What is the point of riding a bike that has such a huge learning curve and high risk factor? Sure, if you're a dare devil or an adrenaline junky, the story might be different. But I am not willing to take that kind of risk with my life. And having paid close to thirty thousand dollars for this ....... garbage, using it only for track seems like a huge waste, because I paid a hefty premium for those ridiculously unusable headlights, turn signals and mirrors. In every aspect, this bike is nothing more than a showoff piece.

Some people say this bike is an "angry machine". Well, currently I am angrier than it, because I bought into the hype. Last time I rode a Ducati was when they came out with 1198 with a big hype surrounding it just like they do with all of their new bikes. When I test rode it, I absolutely hated it. I just don't understand their logic and their concept of making gazillion ft.lbs of torque at low rpm range which cannot be predictably controlled. Ducati chose the wrong path with their engine concept. To me, it was a ...... up design from the start and they were stuck with it. So they had to patch it up as much as they possible could, wrap it up in pretty plastic covers and had their marketing team go to work.

And so many years later, they still carry on their stupid concept. It doesn't matter riders couldn't handle 60ft.lb of torque 5 years ago, ducati is going to make a 100ft.lb torque machine where riders only used 5% of its power on the pavement they ride 90% of the time. And they didn't care that the 80% of its power could not be properly managed on the street, because its a "race bike", "you have to be angry to ride it" (are you ....... promoting road rage?), "just ride it faster" (and kill yourself)?, get an aftermarket ECU modulator (which may not work) and pay another grand on top of what you already paid for the "most advanced bike in the world?" c'mon! Give me a break!

Ducatis arrogance is appalling. Their attitude is simply irresponsible and it clearly shows that Ducati as a company does not care about the safety of its consumers, but rather consider their customers to be a bunch of ....... with a death wish who will eventually Darwin themselves out using the crude tools they've provided.

I foresee that Ducati will dump their engine design in the near future, because as I have mentioned, they were stuck with a ...... up design by hiring a monkey for their engineer, and soon move on to a completely different design or follow suit with other manufactures and admit their flaws.

I had a 2011 BMW S1000rr and by comparison, its a far better bike than the Panigale.

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nanoplastic said:

Thanks for the feedback guys. I did test rode the bike prior to purchase. But you can't possibly figure out all the "problems" with the bike from a 20 min dealer test rides. And that choppy throttle at low rpm is a "problem" many people on the forum complained about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPhCiaIxHk4
Watch this review and listen to what they say about the panigale 1299. Which I agree whole heartedly now.

I have many track days under my belt. I'm not a new rider. I've been to every track in California and have my fair share of hooligan riding on the canyons, streets and such.
But this bike is clearly is unsafe. My main issue is the extreme choppy throttle at low rpm range. where you do most of your street riding in traffic. I can't see how anyone could possible ride this bike even in wet mode in the rain, on slippery surfaces because of the way the throttle is. It is so jerky, it's a disaster waiting to happen in aberrant weather conditions.

Once again, ducati added on millions of rider aids but in essence you can't even use them practically. Sure I should have looked into it further before plopping down 30 grand. I learned my lesson. And clearly this is NOT the bike I expected from the "world's most advanced bike". I'm not afraid to admit I made a wrong choice. I was merely expressing my frustration and improvement that ducati could make for its consumers to make the bike SAFER and more manageable! For those that say, get a manageable bike like ninja300, etc., do you ride your panigale with all the electronic aids turned off? If you use any of its electronic support features, you are a damn hypocrite!

And for those who are so quick to judge and criticize me for making the wrong decision, are you that perfect? Get off your high horses already

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Claymore said:

Does your Mummy know you are out and about? I ride a 1199 Tri which is quite a bit more uncivilized that an 1299, my ecu is full race, I ride in race mode and commute a lot with my bike, have done more than 24 000 km's on her and thinks she is absolutely fabulous. Ducati is for men my boy.

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