2020 V4 Arrow+Filter running issues

ElderBobo · Jun 4, 2020

Hello, im new to the forum and the Ducati-verse (had a 14R1 before this).

I have a 2020 V4 with a BMC air filter and Arrow slip on. Everything was fine until i put these on, now runs horribly. I tried to do the whole heat cycle procedure multiple times with no avail. I also ordered brentune flasher (site said 2020 and they fixed after i got email saying no support for 2020 and i shown them where it did). I also got the T800 and flashed the only tune available for the 2020 which is for the full termi race exhaust.

The T800 flash made it a bit better (idle isnt all over the place) but i still have so much resistance and flat spots its basically unridable.

Has anyone experienced something similar and if so what did you do to resolve the issue.

Any help would be appreciated greatly

DucatiKev · Jun 4, 2020

Just installed slipons to my 2020. Waiting for the sprint filter next week and for better weather. It’s too powerful to really try it out in the rain. I’ll keep u posted but the company I got the exhaust from showed a stock vs their exhaust Dyno chart with no tune and their claim is that their exhaust unleashes more power even with no tune... but I don’t believe that

DucatiKev · Jun 4, 2020

PM sent, reread my post above. I updated after u liked it ^^^

stan1 · Jun 5, 2020

The only issue that I have with my Arrow Slip-on is a flat spot at 7k rpm. I'm running the stock filter since I just received my sprint air filter yesterday.

I took it out for a 150 miles loop after I install the exhaust and the power was outstanding plus it wasn't running hot

So you flashed your 2020 V4 with the full System Map/With baffle?

ElderBobo · Jun 5, 2020

I flashed the map designed for no db killers.

stan1 · Jun 5, 2020

ElderBobo,

I would try the one with DB killers cause the Arrow Exhaust flows less than the full system. I believe you would get better results and better matches the Arrow Slip-on.

ElderBobo said:
I flashed the map designed for no db killers.

ElderBobo · Jun 5, 2020

stan1 said:
ElderBobo,

I would try the one with DB killers cause the Arrow Exhaust flows less than the full system. I believe you would get better results and better matches the Arrow Slip-on.

Will give it a go today

jmhamilton68 · Jun 5, 2020

I have a 19 with the arrow and sprint filter. Same issue as above though. Flat spot at 7k rpm. I’ll get it taken care of on the dyno once Woolich releases their stuff.

jmhamilton68 · Jun 5, 2020

ElderBobo said:
Hello, im new to the forum and the Ducati-verse (had a 14R1 before this).

I have a 2020 V4 with a BMC air filter and Arrow slip on. Everything was fine until i put these on, now runs horribly. I tried to do the whole heat cycle procedure multiple times with no avail. I also ordered brentune flasher (site said 2020 and they fixed after i got email saying no support for 2020 and i shown them where it did). I also got the T800 and flashed the only tune available for the 2020 which is for the full termi race exhaust.

The T800 flash made it a bit better (idle isnt all over the place) but i still have so much resistance and flat spots its basically unridable.

Has anyone experienced something similar and if so what did you do to resolve the issue.

Any help would be appreciated greatly

cant you use a fuel map from a 2019? It’s the same motor. The electronics are only different in regards to the TC

stan1 · Jun 5, 2020

It's my understanding that the UpMap reads the bike before installing the map, and I don't think it will let you copy a map from an older one. They have Maps for 2020 V4, but it's for a full system. The 2020 ECU Program is different than the 2018-2019 version.

jmhamilton68 said:
cant you use a fuel map from a 2019? It’s the same motor. The electronics are only different in regards to the TC

stan1 · Jun 5, 2020

I just read another post and someone said to;

"Update! My buddy told me to re-calibrate the tire and it works. Now the power delivery and shifting is very smooth. "

Termignoni T800 UpMap.

You can remove the module after installing the upmap. The only reason to leave it connected is that it can do some logging through the app if you leave it connected. Thanks for updating!

ducatiforum.com

It's worth a try for you.

ElderBobo said:
Hello, im new to the forum and the Ducati-verse (had a 14R1 before this).

I have a 2020 V4 with a BMC air filter and Arrow slip on. Everything was fine until i put these on, now runs horribly. I tried to do the whole heat cycle procedure multiple times with no avail. I also ordered brentune flasher (site said 2020 and they fixed after i got email saying no support for 2020 and i shown them where it did). I also got the T800 and flashed the only tune available for the 2020 which is for the full termi race exhaust.

The T800 flash made it a bit better (idle isnt all over the place) but i still have so much resistance and flat spots its basically unridable.

Has anyone experienced something similar and if so what did you do to resolve the issue.

Any help would be appreciated greatly

ElderBobo · Jun 5, 2020

So oddly enough, i put in the db killers and its running much better.. maybe the arrow has too much flow vs the map for the termi uscite. The arrow without db's in is just short straight pipes. Will keep posted very early to be certain.

ElderBobo · Jun 5, 2020

stan1 said:
I just read another post and someone said to;

"Update! My buddy told me to re-calibrate the tire and it works. Now the power delivery and shifting is very smooth. "

Termignoni T800 UpMap.

You can remove the module after installing the upmap. The only reason to leave it connected is that it can do some logging through the app if you leave it connected. Thanks for updating!

ducatiforum.com

It's worth a try for you.

Yeah i tried that yesterday, didn't make a difference unfortunately

stan1 · Jun 5, 2020

Have you tried the UpMap with the DB killer V4 20 D182 FD - UpMap - Next level for passion ???

ElderBobo said:
So oddly enough, i put in the db killers and its running much better.. maybe the arrow has too much flow vs the map for the termi uscite. The arrow without db's in is just short straight pipes. Will keep posted very early to be certain.

ElderBobo · Jun 5, 2020

stan1 said:
Have you tried the UpMap with the DB killer V4 20 D182 FD - UpMap - Next level for passion ???

I havent, thats the next test. Im going to try that probably tomorrow as long as weather is decent

stan1 · Jun 5, 2020

Copy that, Please keep us posted.

ElderBobo said:
I havent, thats the next test. Im going to try that probably tomorrow as long as weather is decent

DucatiKev · Jun 5, 2020

ElderBobo said:
So oddly enough, i put in the db killers and its running much better.. maybe the arrow has too much flow vs the map for the termi uscite.

Cool. What’s the sound difference like? Tone vs volume?
my slipon manufacturer said they believe it sounds better with the dB killers in, plus it doesn’t seem to be running poorly as is. Never tried removing them.

I'm sure your bike will make even more power with the baffles out with a perfect tune

ElderBobo · Jun 5, 2020

DucatiKev said:
Cool. What’s the sound difference like? Tone vs volume?
my slipon manufacturer said they believe it sounds better with the dB killers in, plus it doesn’t seem to be running poorly as is. Never tried removing them.

I'm sure your bike will make even more power with the baffles out with a perfect tune

Its a good deal quieter with the db killers in still much better and louder than stock, sounds amazing with them out but until i can get the correct amount of fuel being fed the unrestricted exhaust makes it run lean.

RODOLFO · Jun 6, 2020

If it is Slip ons

try the map for the termi Slip on

not for the full exhaust

ElderBobo · Jun 6, 2020

RODOLFO said:
If it is Slip ons

try the map for the termi Slip on

not for the full exhaust

There isnt one for the 2020 yet unfortunately.

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