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Reading this article seems to infer that current ABS systems do not work in preventing front wheel lock up when the bike is leaned over...Is this true??? If so then I have been under a misapprehension for a very long time....
 
Maybe the limited edition Pani will have this new ABS system to start with and will then be the standard ABS system for all new Ducati models moving forward.
 
I'm not completely sure on the differences, I posted this in the new Forum.

Of course our ABS works to prevent front wheel lock under braking despite the lean angle, but I wonder if somehow this system can detect a front wheel slip under braking, which of course can happen without locking up the front wheel.
 
MacaveliMC said:
I'm not completely sure on the differences, I posted this in the new Forum.

Of course our ABS works to prevent front wheel lock under braking despite the lean angle, but I wonder if somehow this system can detect a front wheel slip under braking, which of course can happen without locking up the front wheel.
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Maybe so...but even if it detects front wheel slippage...what can it possibly do about it???
 
Stw said:
Maybe so...but even if it detects front wheel slippage...what can it possibly do about it???
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Well we're talking about in respect to being on the brakes, so if you're on the brakes any amount, and it detects the front wheel slipping (verses locking up), and the force causing the front wheel to slip is a result of how much you are on the brakes, then perhaps the ABS releasing the front brakes a bit for you will cause you to save a potential lowside? My best guess....
 
when i ride my mountain bike downhill and feel it slipping under me on either one or both wheels, i let the brake go and pull the bike up (out of the lean) to catch it.

so far the physics of it, i wonder how a computerized system could imitate this...

what are the options?
assuming an constant lean, you (or the 'puter) could either go on or off the gas or hit the rear brake.

my guess is a tad more gas, which transfers weight to the rear wheel, thereby taking wight off the front and helping to gain grip back .

???
 
Phil said:
when i ride my mountain bike downhill and feel it slipping under me on either one or both wheels, i let the brake go and pull the bike up (out of the lean) to catch it.

so far the physics of it, i wonder how a computerized system could imitate this...

what are the options?
assuming an constant lean, you (or the 'puter) could either go on or off the gas or hit the rear brake.

my guess is a tad more gas, which transfers weight to the rear wheel, thereby taking wight off the front and helping to gain grip back .

???
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I would definitely like to know. I feel like the idea of adding throttle in that situation by the computer would be a highly sensitive issue, and probably not one they'd like to practice despite how much it may make sense lol.

I also wonder how they manage the action of keeping the bike from righting itself when you brake in a lean.
 
they probably have a gyroscope in there, and in case the bike slips, it locks up and "catches" the bike...
 
From my experience on the Pani,iv grabbed a serious handfull of front brake fully leant over (car pulling out on me as I had my knee down around a roundabout),and the bike came to a halt without the front slipping out. If it wasnt for abs my ... would have been on the floor for sure!
 
PUMPDAD said:
From my experience on the Pani,iv grabbed a serious handfull of front brake fully leant over (car pulling out on me as I had my knee down around a roundabout),and the bike came to a halt without the front slipping out. If it wasnt for abs my ... would have been on the floor for sure!
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Isn't it amazing how one letter makes all the difference.....


.....i'll let that one sink in for a bit......:D
 
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Main difference I think is that standard ABS is reactive (sensing the wheel locking) whereas the new system takes more parameters into account, predicts when it's likely to happen and limits the riders inputs to the brake and throttle.
 
Just based on what I'm seeing it looks like this system essentially allows traction control and ABS to "talk" to each other via the interlinking variables of lean and pitch. By bouncing computations of both systems off a common variable you can synchronize the adjustments, thereby utilizing the strengths of both to minimize significant erring and help encourage conditions back to a data comfort zone.
 

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