Anyone running the new Termignoni Slip-ons?

Apparently, Tuneboy's software can unlock the upmap. It's already in your ECU; it just has to be unlocked.

When you pulled the subframe - that's four torx bolts, one of which is kind of a pain to get to. And then the wiring - how many plugs had to be unplugged?

And can you pull the subframe without removing the tank?

Oh, and I was told by a tech that the 1299 stock pipes are dimensionally identical to the 1199 Akrapovic full exhaust collector pipes (the kit you got). Does that appear to be true?

Sorry, I'm just full of questions

kismetcapitan said:

Apparently, Tuneboy's software can unlock the upmap. It's already in your ECU; it just has to be unlocked.

When you pulled the subframe - that's four torx bolts, one of which is kind of a pain to get to. And then the wiring - how many plugs had to be unplugged?

And can you pull the subframe without removing the tank?

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The only plugs that I had to undo were the two o2 sensors and and I also had to unplug the rear shock compresion and rebound wiring, the rest I left plugged in and just laid the subframe on top of the airbox, cant really see a way to do it without removing the fuel tank, which is extremely easy on the Panigale

Desmo Larry said:

The only plugs that I had to undo were the two o2 sensors and and I also had to unplug the rear shock compresion and rebound wiring, the rest I left plugged in and just laid the subframe on top of the airbox, cant really see a way to do it without removing the fuel tank, which is extremely easy on the Panigale

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true, I can pull the tank off in 5 minutes if I lay out the tools ahead of time.

I didn't want to jump into kismetcapitan's thread, so I am posting my impressions of my first day with the RapidBike module.

I have the Termignoni Carbon front exit slipons with cat delete, the Sprint P08 air filter and now the RapidBike Race module.

I put a little ove 300 miles on her today after the RapidBike install.

First of all, the engine responds in a far more instant manner, far snappier. It sounds a bit different from before and I'm not sure why exactly that would be.

It runs cooler as well. With all my mods, I am now at a point where the heat is almost a non-issue now.

The throttle is far more responsive everywhere.. Part throttle is smoother, giving it a handful of throttle at low rpm, results in a far smoother and more immediate lunge forward. On full power, there is definitely more power everywhere, I think I notice it most in the 4,000-6,000 rpm range, where there seems like no hesitation at all now.

I will try to get my ... down to my tuners dyno in the next week and see what the final figures are, but I would be surprised if I am not at around 190 RWHP now, give or take 2-3 hp, but the real benefit seems to be in the part throttle and the more immediate responsiveness and willingness to rev now.

I would say that the Termi front exit slip on, the Sprint P08 filter and the RapidBike module are about the best way to wake up your bike and a surprisingly cost effective way of getting some serious power with better drive ability and smoothness out of the bike. The dyno will give us the final HP figures, but what it can't really do, is tell the whole story of just how well the whole package with the RapidBike works.

Cheers.

definitely not a thread hijack - I am curious to see what dyno numbers you pull, although in theory, since our bikes are otherwise running the same equipment, assuming equally qualified tuners, our bikes should be within a couple hp of each other.

also, this just further convinces me that the power dip in the middle is mapped in by Ducati to meet emissions and/or sound regulations. Once you map a motor to be fueled the way it wants to be fueled, with no concern for emissions, the true performance of a motor comes to light.

some people really tune for the most power possible. my tuning goals for motorcycles has always been simple - give it the ideal exhaust and fueling that it wants. let it reach it's "natural" potential.

80shilling, how was the installation process of the Rapidbike?

Also, did it eliminate the O2 sensors, or otherwise intercept the O2 signal?

Tuneboy shuts them off. There is that autotune feature that uses the stock O2 sensors, but I just removed both sensors, and plugged the 12mm bungs.

kismetcapitan said:

80shilling, how was the installation process of the Rapidbike?

Also, did it eliminate the O2 sensors, or otherwise intercept the O2 signal?

Tuneboy shuts them off. There is that autotune feature that uses the stock O2 sensors, but I just removed both sensors, and plugged the 12mm bungs.

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the stock O2 sensors stay in place, RapidBike uses the stock O2 sensors to tune the air/fuel ratios. I had my dealer install the module and it frustrated the master tech a little.. I ended up paying for 4 hours of labor; however, he does fantastic work and the install is really solid.

The way I understand it (and I need to understand it a WHOLE lot better), the RapidBike Race module comes with a predetermined map, along with some timing advance etc, then it "learns, as you ride it, with the module adding and removing fuel, ending up with an ever evolving trim map that it builds. At some point, the map is as good as it can get and you then "commit" that map to the unit and tell it to stop doing anything else.

What I can say, is that my master tech has ridden my bike a whole lot.. From the first day, when he built and prepped it, to today and he handed it over to me and commented that it now sounds "evil, angry and totally pissed off" and it scares him . He also commented on the fact that the engine now revs SO much more freely and quickly.. He reckons he can tell by the sound the engine is making that there's a decent amount of ignition timing advance in it now.

Cheers.

Just out of curiosity were block off plates installed to eliminate the fresh air into the exhaust, because I would think that otherwise the 02 sensor numbers would be skewed

Desmo Larry said:

Just out of curiosity were block off plates installed to eliminate the fresh air into the exhaust, because I would think that otherwise the 02 sensor numbers would be skewed

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Yaman tells me that the block-off plates are not necessary.

The bike is REALLY running well now, I'm completely sold on the RapidBike. Initially, I was quite sceptical about it, not really having heard much about RapidBike, but it truly transforms the way the bike runs right now, especially with the slipons and the free flowing air filter. VERY impressed so far.

P.S. After running the Termi slipon front exit for a couple of weeks, NO ONE has even noticed that it's a front exit.

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P.S. After running the Termi slipon front exit for a couple of weeks, NO ONE has even noticed that it's a front exit.

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it's one of the first things people notice when looking at my bike, the second is invariably "does the exhaust blow back on you" and actually, it doesn't. I'll smell like gasoline for sure after riding my wife's Monster, and somewhat so after riding my Multistrada (with full Arrow exhaust). I reeked after riding my old BMW S1000RR (full Akrapovic, long can just like the HP4). But somehow this forward exit keeps the exhaust blowing away from me, both moving and at a standstill. Never would have thunk it!

Finally installed new carbon termis and Sprint filter on my 1299. At first start up, I was a little disappointed in the sound since it wasn't much different from stock at idle. I guess I was naively hoping for closer to the old long strokes with termis.

But it only took one blip to change my opinion. Freer revving and deeper sound, more like my old '13 1199R with ti full termis and more like a Ducati should sound. Took a short spin and throttle response and midrange seems improved. Less so but still a bit of lag at lower rpm though.

Installation notes:
1) chain side bracket screw removal a huge pain (wasn't keen on removing shift linkage since I had done that before on my 1199R), but I got it somehow. I don't have a T-handle, so had to use a wrench and cross with allen key to get leverage initial loosening and final tightening

2) filter...surprisingly, simply removed old and slipped in new without removing any lines. The bigger headache as usual was removal and re-connecting the gas tank breather & overflow tubes...I may have damaged one of them at the connection,so hopefully it doesn't cause issues down the line(?)....lot of cursing and patience required...at least in my case

Ok had a chance to go out for real ride including highway. Wow, what a difference, it pulls some much more and freely. Whereas before with stock pipe and filter I felt it would bog down when hard on throttle and I had to downshift to squirt through cars on highway, now it just takes it in a pulls hard even in higher gear. I can imagine it would be even better with a good fuel management system.

Well, well worth it...in case any folks are still on the fence.

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Ok had a chance to go out for real ride including highway. Wow, what a difference, it pulls some much more and freely. Whereas before with stock pipe and filter I felt it would bog down when hard on throttle and I had to downshift to squirt through cars on highway, now it just takes it in a pulls hard even in higher gear. I can imagine it would be even better with a good fuel management system.

Well, well worth it...in case any folks are still on the fence.

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Try going 2 teeth bigger on the rear sprocket, 520 chain, and a RapidBike module with your new termi and new filter.

I thought it was insane when it was stock, now it's ludicrous.

Mines running well past 5-6k. If i try to full throttle around 5k it boggs down HARD. Need to get it tuned for sure.

I am in the process of installing mine and it seems like it rubs on the rear wheel. I know I'm doing something wrong. Can someone chime in please.

Thanks.

Thamer, mine did the same on same side when installing. With bolts/screws loosened, lightly push the muffler toward the right/front of bike. There's some play with the small u-shaped pipe that connects the 2 mufflers. Mine's still a very tight fit, but it clears the tire. Also, I can't tell in the pics, but ensure the it's properly mated to the manifold and ring secured. Good luck...

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Thamer, mine did the same on same side when installing. With bolts/screws loosened, lightly push the muffler toward the right/front of bike. There's some play with the small u-shaped pipe that connects the 2 mufflers. Mine's still a very tight fit, but it clears the tire. Also, I can't tell in the pics, but ensure the it's properly mated to the manifold and ring secured. Good luck...

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Thanks for the help. Cheers

They should not be that far back. Double check the hangers and make sure you follow the guide.

Thamer said:

I am in the process of installing mine and it seems like it rubs on the rear wheel. I know I'm doing something wrong. Can someone chime in please.

Thanks.

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Got em on the R.

R with the stock exhaust was very hot under the seat. The bike was about 10 Degrees hotter also. Had to make the change.

I like how these sound vs the 1st gen Termi or Akra. I do need to remove all the Akra decal though!

One very important and alarming thing that I have noticed with all these exhaust changes on the bike is how loose all the 8mm hardware is on the clutch and generator cases and the oil pan. I would probably remove the exhaust and re-torque these bolts every season for a street bike. Some bolts rotated a full 360!