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I understand what you are saying but why should i simply roll over and let people kick me in the nuts or my company! would you?

Yes we put up everything on our site but myself and my techs actually enjoy talking to forum members about the bikes and products, nothing wrong with that.
 
Rich22 said:
I understand what you are saying but why should i simply roll over and let people kick me in the nuts or my company! would you?

Yes we put up everything on our site but myself and my techs actually enjoy talking to forum members about the bikes and products, nothing wrong with that.
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Why do you continue this??? You are at best antagonistic and quite possibly mendacious too.... You are making yourself appear desperate for either attention and/or business.... If your product and company are so great then why feel so "offended" etc???
 
You see exactly what i am saying. You are so narrow minded to assume we need a forum! of course we don't, once again YOU DID NOT READ MY POST THAT SAID WE ACTUALLY ENJOY TALKING TO MEMBERS!

Crazy

Ok no problem, Im gone and thank you for killing this forum well and truly DEAD


SAD
 
Rich22 said:
Ok so Trauma, i disagree with you and stand by my post below:

"If you all bothered to go way back to the start you will clearly read that i never once provoked any of the nastiness that you have directed at me. I always tried to help and gave results as we have them. I never once stated or publicised anything untrue or false. The bad posts started way way back when you lot jumped on WAFatboys dyno results and shouted AR, false claims blah blah blah.
Go back read it all and you will find the above to be the truth."

Trauma, You also just insulted me yet again:"still not learning" who are you to post stuff like that! you are the 1 that needs to learn a thing or 2!

WAFatboy, how ever you look at this you were 2 faced. We supported you and acted professionally towards you, you back stabbed us, thats it, like it not you did it!


Oh and Trauma, give the Burnsy thing up, i am not he, ok!
It just seems impossible to move on with you lot.


I really am sorry to all the good guys out there with a genuine interest in this.

Slate away!
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If you had left out that paragraph, I would have given you a +1, the fact you included it in trying to restart the thread in a positive way, focusing on your product, shows you have not "learned" how to avoid confrontation. I and others have told you over and over again to focus on your product rather than fighting/attacking OPs and your competitors here in public view.

I mentioned Burnsy "did not get the memo", because you said he would stop, but he was still attacking on one of your other re-startup threads. Continuing to berate Wat is not helping your case.
 
Naaa ... the memo. Reading this as rich posted you lot are an utter bunch of fukin ......s that should all be shot..... ... the lot of you.
 
In order to function in a community you need to be able to accept there are opinions other than your own. You chose to ignore my positive posts and support, and instead focused on the negatives.

I've published our email comms and the many posts on the subject so I'm very comfortable that other member can see I've been fair and balanced, as I was asked to be by numerous forum members.

Anyone who is considering an AR exhaust will read pages like this (which are well indexed in Google) http://ducati1199.com/ducati-1199/4493-austin-racing-inconel-install-part-ii.html, and then be able to make an informed decision, which was my goal.

What ruins this forum are people who swear and abuse others, and who use false identities to hide behind. I cannot fathom why you keep coming back acting like the injured party ;)

I'm looking forward to continuing to contribute on any further posts you may make in the interests of keeping you honest.
 
So my question is what constitutes an "exhaust system"? Every system I would ever consider for my 1199 would have silencers (slip-ons). I don't know what the forum considers a "system" but mandrel bent pipes without the silencers is not a true full system in my opinion such as AR offers. The most expensive part of the system is the silencer design and materials, along with fit and finish. Mind you, I am an AR customer for a RapidBIKE race module and every race part in the DIMSPORT catalog purchased from Rich. (Service was excellent).

That said, the Termi system has complicated mufflers, as does the Akra system and both are in expensive titanium. The ZARD under tail system has carbon fiber mufflers, and even the MIVV system has round (although not attractive) cans.

So knowing that Ducati has released the WSSK header kit that shows what AR demonstrated early on is correct, that if compared side by side the WSSK header and OEM header are VERY similar. So, the engine likes a longer header set = some restriction for torque. This along with a Termi muffler would get the best results as Rich demonstrated in the past with his testing and dyno sheets… remember: 1199 + OEM header + Termi Slip + Rapid Bike RACE = higher HP.

So how does an AR System with just open pipes work better than OEM header w/ Termi?

Will someone post comparative numbers?

Thanks,

George Villar
 
Burnsy said:
Naaa ... the memo. Reading this as rich posted you lot are an utter bunch of fukin ......s that should all be shot..... ... the lot of you.
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We're ......s, got that, thanks! :) And BTW, there never was a memo, so you actually miissed nuthin'.
 
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george: i've been saying since day one the AR = straight pipe. semantics is a ...... if you insert baffles it is closer to "system" proper, but not in the true sense of muffled.

the real issue is it's not plug and play more at bolt and play.

George Villar said:
So my question is what constitutes an "exhaust system"? Every system I would ever consider for my 1199 would have silencers (slip-ons). I don't know what the forum considers a "system" but mandrel bent pipes without the silencers is not a true full system in my opinion such as AR offers. The most expensive part of the system is the silencer design and materials, along with fit and finish. Mind you, I am an AR customer for a RapidBIKE race module and every race part in the DIMSPORT catalog purchased from Rich. (Service was excellent).

That said, the Termi system has complicated mufflers, as does the Akra system and both are in expensive titanium. The ZARD under tail system has carbon fiber mufflers, and even the MIVV system has round (although not attractive) cans.

So knowing that Ducati has released the WSSK header kit that shows what AR demonstrated early on is correct, that if compared side by side the WSSK header and OEM header are VERY similar. So, the engine likes a longer header set = some restriction for torque. This along with a Termi muffler would get the best results as Rich demonstrated in the past with his testing and dyno sheets"¦ remember: 1199 + OEM header + Termi Slip + Rapid Bike RACE = higher HP.

So how does an AR System with just open pipes work better than OEM header w/ Termi?

Will someone post comparative numbers?

Thanks,

George Villar
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Mig said:
Can Inconel material be ceramic coated?

That way, we could restrain heat even further and would even receive a stealth look. :)
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It is just stainless steel, so yes it can. But it was discovered its heat blocking is similar to OEM, so it still requires a heatshield. Ceramic coating has had mixed results on our forum, and dosen't do a lot reduce the heat. That said, the pipe would look really stealthy coated, especially with the black belly pan!
 
i think someone should offer a PC-sized fan under the seat area ;)

maybe AR has a quantum inconel fan?
 
Rich22 said:
You see exactly what i am saying. You are so narrow minded to assume we need a forum! of course we don't, once again YOU DID NOT READ MY POST THAT SAID WE ACTUALLY ENJOY TALKING TO MEMBERS!

Crazy

Ok no problem, Im gone and thank you for killing this forum well and truly DEAD


SAD
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Rich. Talking or having a conversation means having a fair & balanced approach. Accepting praise is great but you also have to accept negative feedback if warranted.

It is my opinion & by the looks of it several other forum members that WAfatboy has done this.

Don't forget this is an "open" forum that you decided to join.
 
Rich22 said:
You see exactly what i am saying. You are so narrow minded to assume we need a forum! of course we don't, once again YOU DID NOT READ MY POST THAT SAID WE ACTUALLY ENJOY TALKING TO MEMBERS!

Crazy

Ok no problem, Im gone and thank you for killing this forum well and truly DEAD


SAD
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Are you leaving again, or are you just saying the rest of us are dead? Because if so, we are then dead ......s, and I really have know idea what that means. BTW, you were not talking to members, but rather yelling at them. And I can't recall any of your "techs" posting here, unless you count Burnedout (his new name).
 
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i was thinking more along lines of Schrödinger's cat.
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Aha.... Stephen Hawkings would be proud...

maybe when it comes to Rich we should use Occams Razor???
 
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AR lie #173: Pretty sure it's been stated multiple times that guys like Trauma and Stw were now on Rich's ignore list, but Rich continues to respond to them...

If you don't intend to follow through on what you say, just don't say it, then there is no lying involved. Like continously saying you're leaving this forum... just leave if you don't like this public forum. The so called "bad guys" have proven time and again that they will be dominating post counts on every thread you start here, and continue to draw publicity to your negative responses, and now Burnsy's name calling, swearing, and bashing of homosexuals. These threads are what's called a "PR nightmare", and keep getting worse. It's not going to change because you will it so, and as has been pointed out by another member, it's leaning towards the point of "insanity" to think a new thread is going to be any different while this forum remains public. Too much damage done at this point.
 

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