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1199 - 40.000 USD
1199S ABS - 47.900 USD
Tricolore - 55.000
1199R - 60/000
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Gotcha - I'm American, but family was Austrian. Armenia is a Democracy, Russia not so much, you get back often?

Not as often as I wanted to ..)
And my family has been living in Toronto!))

In Russia you can earn a lot of $!))
 
1199 - 40.000 USD
1199S ABS - 47.900 USD
Tricolore - 55.000
1199R - 60/000
((((

Yikes.... I know we are "lucky" in the Usa as our prices are very reasonable... Those prices are insane.... does that include taxes etc???
 
Rich has previous on the Ducati UK forum for EXACTLY the same behavior for which he was banned despite him lying & saying he wasn't.

His company's reputation sinks lower & lower.

Not a huge fan of banning people.... But I am wondering if Rich/ Burnsy haven't crossed the line of acceptable behaviour to the point that this sanction should be considered???
 
Yikes.... I know we are "lucky" in the Usa as our prices are very reasonable... Those prices are insane.... does that include taxes etc???

Yes. This is the final!
Still expensive ...
your prices * 2!
 
Not a huge fan of banning people.... But I am wondering if Rich/ Burnsy haven't crossed the line of acceptable behaviour to the point that this sanction should be considered???

I still think, Rich nothing to do with! He is a normal person! A person who loves motorcycles, and making a quality product.
 
I still think, Rich nothing to do with! He is a normal person! A person who loves motorcycles, and making a quality product.

Sorry... I cannot agree with any of your points there......
 
Sorry... I cannot agree with any of your points there......

You have that right!
But I have no problems with it ...
And really like the AR exhaust system!
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You have that right!
But I have no problems with it ...
And really like the AR exhaust system!
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красивый! I am not nuts about the AR pipe without the belly pan, but interesting to see it. Undertand, no one here hates the pipe, just the companies PR (public relations). It changes the look, and the sound is sometimes illegal, but those are the only drawbacks to the design IMO.
 
Not as often as I wanted to ..)
And my family has been living in Toronto!))

In Russia you can earn a lot of $!))

What do you do there, if you don't mind me asking (we have a thread for that actually :) ) My daughter is traveling through Toronto today, returning from the home of AR :)
 
As I type, I'm questioning why I'm even doing this... but, I am so I can't be too unsure about it I guess...

I'm not sure where to begin with all of this and I'm sure my words and picture will come under fire as these threads, product and vendor has. Seems like this place could stand a group of guys who spent more time in the seat, and much less time typing or "fighting the good fight" that seems to be the prevailing theme about this product and site these days. and here it comes... 3... 2... 1...

I bought the kit for a few reasons. #1. I honestly thought though reading the description of how the system was constructed it'd help deal with shedding heat. #2. I knew the bike suffered from fueling issues and being friends with a local shop that had access to a dyno and a fantastic tuner, I though it a great excuse to have the bike mapped. #3. Termi... Termi... Termi.... Look, I get it but, I had done a full termi kit on my hyper w/ stacks and I felt it ruined the bike. On top of that, I like seeing different things done to bikes then just the norm or standard. Now knowing that the Termi set up does in fact make sense, I would have been completely happy w/ them. But, what's done is done and this is just my opinion. Do what you like. #4. I happen to really like the idea of saving weight w/ a different look. Does my riding benefit from either? No. But either does much of what's available aftermarket to be honest.

I had my share of issues getting the system fit. Once I did and now w/ the term- up map (waiting now to get it in for the custom map) I'm happy with it.

I know i'll be labeled here as a "fan boy" or whatever that .... internet term is by a few people and I'm not going to get in a war and stick my dick up like a lot of what's going on here. But, throughout my dealings with getting this system right, Rich was a pleasure to deal with and FULLY backed his product.

I'm not going to sit here and type and make comments on how he's dealt with his PR here as that's his cross to bare. But I will say I NEVER got any attitude, delay in response or lack of support w/ questions.

I do wish for a bit more out of the pipe over all for the price. But, I can confidently say that I'm happy with my purchase and would buy from Rich again. For Rich, I wish he was able to have presented himself better. The only reason I say this is that I'm as small business owner and today your presence on the net is everything. I hope that he continues to work with the people he intends on selling his products to. You aren't going to get to do that with product development with other companies. Who cares what I think... I'll leave it at that.

If anyone has a question that I can calmly do my best to answer, please feel free to ask. I hope to offer up what I can for those who have bought the system or to those who are thinking about doing so (if there's anyone left).

Thanks,
andy




 
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Looks good Andy. Glad you're experience has been positive and you're happy with it. Your don't qualify as a fanboy as you're sensible and rational.
 
As I type, I'm questioning why I'm even doing this... but, I am so I can't be too unsure about it I guess...

I'm not sure where to begin with all of this and I'm sure my words and picture will come under fire as these threads, product and vendor has. Seems like this place could stand a group of guys who spent more time in the seat, and much less time typing or "fighting the good fight" that seems to be the prevailing theme about this product. and here it comes... 3... 2... 1...

I bought the kit for a few reasons. #1. I honestly thought though reading the description of how the system was constructed it'd help deal with shedding heat. #2. I knew the bike suffered from fueling issues and being friends with a local shop that had access to a dyno and a fantastic tuner, I though it a great excuse to have the bike mapped. #3. Termi... Termi... Termi.... Look, I get it but, I had done a full termi kit on my hyper w/ stacks and I felt it ruined the bike. On top of that, I like seeing different things done to bikes then just the norm or standard. Now knowing that the Termi set up does in fact make sense, I would have been completely happy w/ them. But, what's done is done and this is just my opinion. Do what you like. #4. I happen to really like the idea of saving weight w/ a different look. Does my riding benefit from either? No. But either does much of what's available aftermarket to be honest.

I had my share of issues getting the system fit. Once I did and now w/ the term- up map (waiting now to get it in for the custom map) I'm happy with it.

I know i'll be labeled here as a "fan boy" or whatever that .... internet term is by a few people and I'm not going to get in a war and stick my dick up like a lot of what's going on here. But, throughout my dealings with getting this system right, Rich was a pleasure to deal with and FULLY backed his product.

I'm not going to sit here and type and make comments on how he's dealt with his PR here as that's his cross to bare. But I will say I NEVER got any attitude, delay in response or lack of support w/ questions.

I do wish for a bit more out of the pipe over all for the price. But, I can confidently say that I'm happy with my purchase and would buy from Rich again. For Rich, I wish he was able to have presented himself better. The only reason I say this is that I'm as small business owner and today your presence on the net is everything. I hope that he continues to work with the people he intends on selling his products to. You aren't going to get to do that with product development with other companies. Who cares what I think... I'll leave it at that.

If anyone has a question that I can calmly do my best to answer, please feel free to ask. I hope to offer up what I can for those who have bought the system or to those who are thinking about doing so (if there's anyone left).

Thanks,
andy



Andy

I think its awesome that you have this pipe and that after some struggles with fitment etc its working great for you..... I think you misinterpret the tone of this forum with regards to AR.... and I can only explain it from my point of view... I think this pipe looks amazing and from what I read it sounds amazing... as we know the claimed performance increases appear to be questionable at best... the pipe is not Plug'n'play as stated by Rich and unfortunately there seems to be potential issues with the welds and it certainly appears to need a heat shield ..again contrary to AR's statements ....But that's almost by the by for me... The problem is not the pipe per se...its the attitude of its vendor..Imho.. I wont rehash all that again but I think you miss the point of the posts??

Look at the Rich's posts and tell me he doesn't deserve to be raked over the coals on this???Be interested to know your opinion on that??

Congrats on the pipe... Maybe you are the norm..or perhaps the lucky one?? Who knows ... with a more positive engagement of the forum it is possible we could have found out the truth ...but the Rich/Burnsy show just raised peoples ire to the point that they (I) stopped listening...

I hope you understand my point??? If not that's Ok..we are a broad church and all (constructive) posts be they positive/negative are welcome in my opinion and I thank you for posting this....
 
A detailed & well thought out post.

I'm glad that you are happy with the exhaust & back up from Rich. As it should be.

My point is that I was looking at this product but just cannot accept the way Rich has behaved. You post/advertise on an open forum you have to be able to accept the feedback both positive & negative. Rich appears totally unable to do accept ANY negative feedback.
 
As I type, I'm questioning why I'm even doing this... but, I am so I can't be too unsure about it I guess...

I'm not sure where to begin with all of this and I'm sure my words and picture will come under fire as these threads, product and vendor has. Seems like this place could stand a group of guys who spent more time in the seat, and much less time typing or "fighting the good fight" that seems to be the prevailing theme about this product. and here it comes... 3... 2... 1...

I bought the kit for a few reasons. #1. I honestly thought though reading the description of how the system was constructed it'd help deal with shedding heat. #2. I knew the bike suffered from fueling issues and being friends with a local shop that had access to a dyno and a fantastic tuner, I though it a great excuse to have the bike mapped. #3. Termi... Termi... Termi.... Look, I get it but, I had done a full termi kit on my hyper w/ stacks and I felt it ruined the bike. On top of that, I like seeing different things done to bikes then just the norm or standard. Now knowing that the Termi set up does in fact make sense, I would have been completely happy w/ them. But, what's done is done and this is just my opinion. Do what you like. #4. I happen to really like the idea of saving weight w/ a different look. Does my riding benefit from either? No. But either does much of what's available aftermarket to be honest.

I had my share of issues getting the system fit. Once I did and now w/ the term- up map (waiting now to get it in for the custom map) I'm happy with it.

I know i'll be labeled here as a "fan boy" or whatever that .... internet term is by a few people and I'm not going to get in a war and stick my dick up like a lot of what's going on here. But, throughout my dealings with getting this system right, Rich was a pleasure to deal with and FULLY backed his product.

I'm not going to sit here and type and make comments on how he's dealt with his PR here as that's his cross to bare. But I will say I NEVER got any attitude, delay in response or lack of support w/ questions.

I do wish for a bit more out of the pipe over all for the price. But, I can confidently say that I'm happy with my purchase and would buy from Rich again. For Rich, I wish he was able to have presented himself better. The only reason I say this is that I'm as small business owner and today your presence on the net is everything. I hope that he continues to work with the people he intends on selling his products to. You aren't going to get to do that with product development with other companies. Who cares what I think... I'll leave it at that.

If anyone has a question that I can calmly do my best to answer, please feel free to ask. I hope to offer up what I can for those who have bought the system or to those who are thinking about doing so (if there's anyone left).

Thanks,
andy



Andy

I think its awesome that you have this pipe and that after some struggles with fitment etc its working great for you..... I think you misinterpret the tone of this forum with regards to AR.... and I can only explain it from my point of view... I think this pipe looks amazing and from what I read it sounds amazing... as we know the claimed performance increases appear to be questionable at best... the pipe is not Plug'n'play as stated by Rich and unfortunately there seems to be potential issues with the welds and it certainly appears to need a heat shield ..again contrary to AR's statements ....But that's almost by the by for me... The problem is not the pipe per se...its the attitude of its vendor..Imho.. I wont rehash all that again but I think you miss the point of the posts??

Look at the Rich's posts and tell me he doesn't deserve to be raked over the coals on this???Be interested to know your opinion on that??

Congrats on the pipe... Maybe you are the norm..or perhaps the lucky one?? Who knows ... with a more positive engagement of the forum it is possible we could have found out the truth ...but the Rich/Burnsy show just raised peoples ire to the point that they (I) stopped listening...

I hope you understand my point??? If not that's Ok..we are a broad church and all (constructive) posts be they positive/negative are welcome in my opinion and I thank you for posting this....

i don't wish to get into this much, but i get you. i just didn't think it the gang up deal was necessary. i understand everyone here's intent is to help. but when you look at the number of posts and egging on, it to me really hurt this place. again, this is just my opinion and not the reason for my post. i don't want this post to continue to add to it, but i guess that's to late. I do understand that you all were just trying to get the facts and truth, but i think the threads might have benefited from a bit more sitting back and reading without the constant chiming in.

Again, I get the reactions and i'm not attacking anyone and I'm not trying to whip up this already beat horse.
 
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