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Steven31371 · Jul 9, 2024

Wait until you realize that you shouldn’t even be popping up from your tuck yet where you use to grab brake on the Ducati

The power of the Ducati feels like it shouldn’t be legal lol

How late you let off throttle and start braking, and the speed at which you fly by liter bikes in the braking zone feels like it shouldn't be legal on the KRAMER/KTM

spooky · Jul 9, 2024

Steven31371 said:
The KTM/Kramers run a smaller rotor than our Ducati’s, a 290mm versus a 330mm…so you would expect that the less leverage on the smaller rotor might ‘like’ a bigger MC…but I didn’t find that to be true…though again brake feel is a subjective thing. I’m told by Kramer that the professionals that tested the bike prefer the 19mm MC…but I’m not a professional …And I suspect that they prefer the feel of the 19mm MC because they have been running one for years on their race bikes and they are just use to that feel.

I think you might be onto something there.

JOS · Jul 20, 2024

Bruce Wayne said:
I bought 2 hp4 race, one to ride the other as spares, i can honestly say that it is the best motorcycle i have ever ridden, it just does everything you want a motorcycle to do, i ride it at 90% of what i would my race bike and that's about 1sec slower but ultra safe. In Australia parts are no longer available but engine parts are. Engine is very easy to rebuild and will do 5,000 race KLM no problem. Engine has close ratio gearbox made by alpha but could also fit the Nova one that is even better, has mild camshafts and few other kit parts but can definitely be rebuilt easily. At 146kg there is nothing else like it.

A bit ot here;
Just got my fingers on a HP4 race. Do we have a good forum for those machines?
And yes it is a special feeling on it, holy cow the brake after the long straight, wow.

Steven31371 · Jul 20, 2024

JOS said:
A bit ot here;
Just got my fingers on a HP4 race. Do we have a good forum for those machines?
And yes it is a special feeling on it, holy cow the brake after the long straight, wow.

Sweet….i couldn’t find a forum for that specific bike the the BMW forums have sections where you can get info

Bruce Wayne · Jul 20, 2024

JOS said:
A bit ot here;
Just got my fingers on a HP4 race. Do we have a good forum for those machines?
And yes it is a special feeling on it, holy cow the brake after the long straight, wow.

I haven't seen any, I guess there isn't a lot of them out there, I don't think they sold more than 500. You can download the software from BMW website that allows you to tune it and adjust the settings, lots of parameters can be changed to improve it as the STD maps are quite conservative.

JOS · Jul 21, 2024

Bruce Wayne said:
I haven't seen any, I guess there isn't a lot of them out there, I don't think they sold more than 500. You can download the software from BMW website that allows you to tune it and adjust the settings, lots of parameters can be changed to improve it as the STD maps are quite conservative.

750pcs done. Yes I have downloaded the BMW software but cannot get it to work for some reson, it says it is missing one file .dll. Will try to connect it to the machine to see if it solves the issue.
Same goes for the 2D logger, that program is looking for a licence key even you see it in gray so it should be fine...and they do not respond on mails it seems.

CSV4 · Sep 26, 2024

Steven31371 said:
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Got here late, am at Big Willow today, just did my 1st session, but I did it on the K5 Gixxer track bike, I gotta say, I f***king LOVE this track already.

We’ll see how it feels with the stiffer suspension of the Ducati next session, but so far my god this track is cool.

There’s only about 20% of the track that’s slightly technical, the other 80% is just….GOOOO FAAASSST

you use a short bed truck to get your bike to the track? any issues?

Steven31371 · Sep 26, 2024

CSV4 said:
you use a short bed truck to get your bike to the track? any issues?

Not a short bed, a normal sized bed. Not the long bed though either.

But yeah, no problems at all if you have the right gear. Need a decent set of ramps, and a good wheel chuck for the front wheel. Roll the bike up into the truck and straight into the wheel chuck, make sure it’s straight, then strap it down so the the forks compress about 3 inches or so.

I like hauling the bike in the back of a truck much more than hauling a trailer that bounces and moves around. Can drive faster more securely.

You can use a short bed truck, but the rear tire is a little closer to the end of the tailgate that I like.

FlyingDucatiMonster · Sep 27, 2024

Steven31371 said:
Not a short bed, a normal sized bed. Not the long bed though either.

But yeah, no problems at all if you have the right gear. Need a decent set of ramps, and a good wheel chuck for the front wheel. Roll the bike up into the truck and straight into the wheel chuck, make sure it’s straight, then strap it down so the the forks compress about 3 inches or so.

I like hauling the bike in the back of a truck much more than hauling a trailer that bounces and moves around. Can drive faster more securely.

You can use a short bed truck, but the rear tire is a little closer to the end of the tailgate that I like.

So I'm exploring hauling my bike in the bed of my truck, but the length of my bike is one inch long than the specs on the truck bed. I was hoping to place the front wheel in a chalk, and then slightly move the rear off to the side to be able to close the tailgate. Even my owners manual says to load the bike "straight". Should I let the air out of my rear tire instead? I really want to shut my tailgate because I can lock it.

I will eventually buy a toy-hauler after I pay off said toys...

Steven31371 · Sep 27, 2024

FlyingDucatiMonster said:
So I'm exploring hauling my bike in the bed of my truck, but the length of my bike is one inch long than the specs on the truck bed. I was hoping to place the front wheel in a chalk, and then slightly move the rear off to the side to be able to close the tailgate. Even my owners manual says to load the bike "straight". Should I let the air out of my rear tire instead? I really want to shut my tailgate because I can lock it.

I will eventually buy a toy-hauler after I pay off said toys...

I haul mine with the tail gate open. It’s fine as long as you have a wheel chuck and strap it down good.

FlyingDucatiMonster · Sep 27, 2024

Steven31371 said:
I haul mine with the tail gate open. It’s fine as long as you have a wheel chuck and strap it down good.

I'm concerned with theft, not rolling out the back while cruising down the road. Plus, my other gear is more secure in the bed with the tailgate closed.

Steven31371 · Sep 27, 2024

FlyingDucatiMonster said:
So I'm exploring hauling my bike in the bed of my truck, but the length of my bike is one inch long than the specs on the truck bed. I was hoping to place the front wheel in a chalk, and then slightly move the rear off to the side to be able to close the tailgate. Even my owners manual says to load the bike "straight". Should I let the air out of my rear tire instead? I really want to shut my tailgate because I can lock it.

I will eventually buy a toy-hauler after I pay off said toys...

I would NOT haul the bike cocked to the side, and with the wheel chuck it will be 5 inches out over the tailgate. If you love that thing cock to the side, you’ll be putting a weird load on the front forks and I’d be worried that every time you hit a bump in the road bike tire would want to slide sideways if it was tilted, which it will be if you pull the rear wheel of the bike sideways.

FlyingDucatiMonster · Sep 27, 2024

Steven31371 said:
I would NOT haul the bike cocked to the side, and with the wheel chuck it will be 5 inches out over the tailgate. If you love that thing cock to the side, you’ll be putting a weird load on the front forks and I’d be worried that every time you hit a bump in the road bike tire would want to slide sideways if it was tilted, which it will be if you pull the rear wheel of the bike sideways.

I be worried too... need to haul it, but I'm worried about theft. Thought it would be better locked in the back of the truck. Maybe I will haul it tailgate down/ straight, then cock and lock it when I park it for the night

Steven31371 · Sep 27, 2024

FlyingDucatiMonster said:
I be worried too... need to haul it, but I'm worried about theft. Thought it would be better locked in the back of the truck. Maybe I will haul it tailgate down/ straight, then cock and lock it when I park it for the night

That’s a better idea…but the threat of theft is the same tail up or down. Thieves aren’t going to be coming and setting up ramps. They would come with four guys and lift the bike out, tailgate closed or open. But depending on where you live that’s a pretty tall order for thieves. Much easier to steal it off a trail or logistically.

chris838 · Sep 27, 2024

I know its not red but same here.. I'm psycho when it comes to hauling trailers. I much rather prefer the thing in the bed. My taco has a short bed, I got a Baxley wheel chuck, canjon chaser tiedowns and foldable ramp that acts as a tail gate extender. OC to SoW twice a month in 2h10min ususally. No drama. All is better than overnighting in Lancaster

craig bush · Sep 27, 2024

chris838 said:
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I know its not red but same here.. I'm psycho when it comes to hauling trailers. I much rather prefer the thing in the bed. My taco has a short bed, I got a Baxley wheel chuck, canjon chaser tiedowns and foldable ramp that acts as a tail gate extender. OC to SoW twice a month in 2h10min ususally. No drama. All is better than overnighting in Lancaster

How you like that zx4rr? Do you have a panigale as well?

chris838 · Sep 27, 2024

craig bush said:
How you like that zx4rr? Do you have a panigale as well?

I hope Steve doesnt get mad with the OT but I know he moved on to the KTM so I hope its fine

I just opened up a new thread with my V4 but to answer your question, the ZX4RR is a lot of fun for smaller tracks without lots of straightaways and highspeed. Its much more forgiving than a liter bike and more versatile. But i have to say in terms of costs, other than the purchase price, it is not that much different. All the upgrades eventually cost same as on a liter bike. I'm not a very experienced rider and the bike definitely helps me to improve my riding!

JohnSmith · Sep 27, 2024

would love a zx4rr for kart tracks but I think they 23-25k from graves, 450 SMR better deal

Kev242 · Sep 28, 2024

Steve from JSC is having his freshly Graves built ZX4-RR sent out to Chuck…..a little sweet talking and a milkshake or two and perhaps I can get a leg over it : )

Steven31371 · Sep 29, 2024

Those are very cool bikes, but 80-90hp on a 341lbs bike, while cool is not 130hp on a 313 lbs bike, if you want a middle weight scalpel I’d save up and spring for a Kramer GP2-RR or buy a 2nd hand RC 8C which you can find for mid to low 30’s if you’re patient and know where to look.

Or for the same price the Kramer 690 R that’s 242 lbs and 80hp with higher end components for the same price as one of those Graves bikes.

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