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apeluv

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It's a nice day toady so I go to the garage and unplug my pani from the trickle charger (which was a solid green). My bike won't start. When I hit the start button you hear a click and the fuel going to the engine. After a few times of hitting the start button both engine lights come on and the oil light keeps flashing. I just rode the bike 4 days ago with no issues. What's up with this bike? Has anyone else had something similar to this happen?
 
check the voltage on your battery as a first step, should read 12.6 or more not running.

You can toggle thru the menu and check the voltage or better to just use a multimeter .




apeluv said:
It's a nice day toady so I go to the garage and unplug my pani from the trickle charger (which was a solid green). My bike won't start. When I hit the start button you hear a click and the fuel going to the engine. After a few times of hitting the start button both engine lights come on and the oil light keeps flashing. I just rode the bike 4 days ago with no issues. What's up with this bike? Has anyone else had something similar to this happen?
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Check the dashboard and see what voltage the battery is saying.

Low voltage would cause the starter to click. I know you said it was charging, but could still be a fault with battery or charger.

Does the fuel pump prime?
 
FWIW, I just had my battery replaced under warranty for the very same reason. A day before a potential buyer came to look at my Tri, I tried to start it up as it had been awhile. Got that same click. Put it on the tender, and the light was green in 5 minutes. Still clicked.

Apparently the battery went bad, and was only charging to 65%. They gave me a new one, no charge.
 
Battery reads 12.2v. The fuel pump does prime too.
 
has it been cold? tap the starter with the butt of a wrench, that's how i can get cars to start

similar situation, battery checks out, lights are bright, starter just go click, click, click. starter clutch might be stuck

could always push start in 2nd and head to the dealer
 
jyli19 said:
has it been cold? tap the starter with the butt of a wrench, that's how i can get cars to start

similar situation, battery checks out, lights are bright, starter just go click, click, click. starter clutch might be stuck

could always push start and head to the dealer
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New bike shouldn't need that. I'd call Dan, and have 'em tow it in. So sorry.
 
Have you guys tried to push start a Pani? Wouldn't the compression make it kind of a pain? Regardless, please record it and post it if you try it. :)
 
Trauma said:
I prop-started a plane once, will never do that again - almost got run over :eek:
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We used to push start dirt bikes, but that was forever ago when they were a lot lighter and I was a lot younger. I suppose you might be able to do it with a couple strong buddies or a big hill, but I wouldn't do the hill option unless you have a way back up if you fubar the timing and it doesn't start. :)
 
Sounds like you have decent volts. But I will say, when I first got my bike, the mechanic told me that if the on/off switch was left in the off position, it was draining batteries, they didn't know why. So told me when shutting the bike off, hit the off switch, but then push it back to the on position. I've been doing ever since, so don't really know how valid it is.
 
Dan came by my house. He plugged it back up to the trickle charger and the bike started right up. Rode it up to the dealer for them to check it out and come to find out (they said) my trickle charger only charges up to 12v and the pani is a 14v battery. They ended up giving me a DP charger that chargers the pani up to 14v at cost.
 
apeluv said:
Dan came by my house. He plugged it back up to the trickle charger and the bike started right up. Rode it up to the dealer for them to check it out and come to find out (they said) my trickle charger only charges up to 12v and the pani is a 14v battery. They ended up giving me a DP charger that chargers the pani up to 14v at cost.
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Stange, I use the Lithium one - I better check it out.

PS Google knows nothing about it... so it cannot be so :D
 
I think I am the only guy that never puts any of my bikes on a charger and I never have problems starting them. :)

Weird, eh?
 
Seriously, needs the DP charger? I've never seen a 14v battery tender. I have my dual tender for both mine and my wife's bikes well wired through our garage. Not going to be pleased if I have to redo and buy another damn tender.
 
ScrapperX said:
+1 I don't even own a battery tender for my bikes. Never had any problems but I guess I would own one if I lived in cold weather.
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I accidentally left the key turned in the on position on my SF overnight once. Came out the next morning and it fired right..ok, kidding, I had to pull the battery and put it on a charger, but I am still running the same battery 23k miles or so later. I don't own one either, but I don't go more than a week or two at the most without riding.
 
Ha! I learned the hard way. The electricals on the older ducs were notorious for frying regulators if the battery wasn't totally charged. EVERY duc owner told me to always keep my ducs on a battery tender, this way battery is always at max volts (those are some big pistons they have to push! Any rate first duc I owned back in 98 was a 748. you guessed, fried a regulator while riding, fortunately only a 1.5 miles from home, but before I had a trailer and didnt know anyone with a truck. After that bike's always stayed on a tender until I put the shorai in my streetfighter, first duc that doesn't stay on a tender.

I'm not so sure about the 14v thing. A twelve volt battery should be running around 13.5 or so (at least on my ducs) when the bike is idling. Ideally, it should have more than 12 volts to start. Also, the battery in the 1199 is not particularly robust.


ScrapperX said:
+1 I don't even own a battery tender for my bikes. Never had any problems but I guess I would own one if I lived in cold weather.
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yep on modern ducs if you ride em once a week or so for any kind of distance you can get by without a tender, tho I won't do it.

Capt CF said:
I accidentally left the key turned in the on position on my SF overnight once. Came out the next morning and it fired right..ok, kidding, I had to pull the battery and put it on a charger, but I am still running the same battery 23k miles or so later. I don't own one either, but I don't go more than a week or two at the most without riding.
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Welcome to the PArty Dude. I drove mine last weekend for a couple hours, got home parket it for about 30 min, came back out to try and start it and NOTHING! Just hissed, chugged and wouldnt start until about the 5-6th minute of trying, i turned key on, left it (because i had to walk away i was so pissed) came back and said these magic words "BITCH YOU BETTER ....... START" and sure enough she started. This is the second time this .... has happened to me, i posted the video below so you can see if the same .... happened to you. Plus id like to have trauma and other guys listen to give their thoughts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKJdTp-SGno

What you hear is me also doing the ignition reset by turning key off, kill switch, and turning it all back on before starting again. I walked ot the other side of the bike in order not to kick the son of a bitch because i was really getting mad but wanted to keep the video just of the bike not of me acting out :D
 
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