Can you powder coat without baking/heating?

I have a piece on the bike that I want to powder coat. Problem is, it has an o-ring(o ring, ring seal) that's a bear to get out.
So, can you powder coat with the electrical charge but without the high temp of baking?

Don't think so

if you can find out the material of the o-ring, you can find the max. allowed temp. and set this as your baking temperature.

my guess it's an NBR ring, which can withstand 120 deg C...

edit, for the needed 200C, it will probably not work.

rocdoc said:

I have a piece on the bike that I want to powder coat. Problem is, it has an o-ring(o ring, ring seal) that's a bear to get out.
So, can you powder coat with the electrical charge but without the high temp of baking?

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It is in essence just "powder", so heat is required, otherwise you are just painting. You might look at having it plated rather than coated, or just paint it. The O-rings might be able to withstand the oven's heat anyway, but a gamble.

You must Definitely bake for powder coat and ceramic coat...anodizing I'm not sure though

Phil said:

if you can find out the material of the o-ring, you can find the max. allowed temp. and set this as your baking temperature.

my guess it's an NBR ring, which can withstand 120 deg C...

edit, for the needed 200C, it will probably not work.

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What's NBR?

So you think even the lower temp for a longer time wouldn't work?

Trauma said:

It is in essence just "powder", so heat is required, otherwise you are just painting. You might look at having it plated rather than coated, or just paint it. The O-rings might be able to withstand the oven's heat anyway, but a gamble.

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My friend had a trellis in his backyard powder coated (at least, that's what he said they did). Electrical current connected to it, but no baking. It still looks great after a couple of years.

Is that what you mean by "plating?"

BTW, my Ducati dealer is pretty sure he can get the seal out, so...we'll find out tomorrow.

rocdoc said:

My friend had a trellis in his backyard powder coated (at least, that's what he said they did). Electrical current connected to it, but no baking. It still looks great after a couple of years.

Is that what you mean by "plating?"

BTW, my Ducati dealer is pretty sure he can get the seal out, so...we'll find out tomorrow.

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No, plating as in nickel or some other plating. Powder coating uses electicity just to get the powder to adhere/stick to the metal, the heat turns the powder to a coating. If the piece would fit in an oven, you could set it at a normal high, like 125 - test it on another piece after a couple of hours. Or maybe the dealer will be successful.

Success at last--seals removed, parts sent for powder coating

Trauma said:

No, plating as in nickle or some other platet. Powder coating uses electicity just to get the powder to adhere/stick to the metal, the heat turns the powder to a coating. If the piece would fit in an oven, you could set it at a normal high, like 125 - test it on another piece after a couple of hours. Or maybe the dealer will be successful.

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Success at last--seals removed, parts sent for powder coating

Thanks for the ideas regarding different plating/coating options.

My dealer was able to get the seals out. Of course, after I looked at the mangled seals, I thought, "I bet I could've torn them out pretty well myself." (I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, and assume that some seals just can't be reused after they are removed.)

The good news is, I'm now a resident expert on removing the engine holder pieces from the bike, and removing the seals from those pieces.

Maybe I should have sent them straight to Xtreme Performance Heat Coatings. Alan, the owner, originally told me to go ahead and send them to him. He said he was pretty sure he knew how to take the seals out. I bet he actually did. Oh well. Live & learn. Not the end of the world at four bucks apiece.

Not dissing my dealer but, seems like one more thing that we, owners, have to figure out ourselves, Instead of finding out from the Ducati experts. I guess that's what the forums are for. Thanks guys.

rocdoc said:

Success at last--seals removed, parts sent for powder coating

Thanks for the ideas regarding different plating/coating options.

My dealer was able to get the seals out. Of course, after I looked at the mangled seals, I thought, "I bet I could've torn them out pretty well myself." (I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, and assume that some seals just can't be reused after they are removed.)

The good news is, I'm now a resident expert on removing the engine holder pieces from the bike, and removing the seals from those pieces.

Maybe I should have sent them straight to Xtreme Performance Heat Coatings. Alan, the owner, originally told me to go ahead and send them to him. He said he was pretty sure he knew how to take the seals out. I bet he actually did. Oh well. Live & learn. Not the end of the world at four bucks apiece.

Not dissing my dealer but, seems like one more thing that we, owners, have to figure out ourselves, Instead of finding out from the Ducati experts. I guess that's what the forums are for. Thanks guys.

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