Ducati 1199 exhaust = bad.?

Stw said:

Just disconnect the valve control circuit... Left side of the bike under the fairing

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I believe the flapper motor is on the right, isn't it...nestled under the oil/water heat exchanger?

Mine's still active. What am I gonna do with more horsepower? Longer wheelies? >

996racer said:

I change parts because I like to wrench and if i can get a benefit in either looks or performance then I do it. Also, modding makes the bike "yours" and allows your to express yourself. Yes, Duc parts are not cheap, but then again, neither are Ducs!

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when you're modding something with parts everyone else is modding their bike with ..... it doesn't make it yours, it makes it like everyone else. You want a bike that's yours.... go weld up a frame and throw an engine in it. I ride a 2 sportbikes and I have custom Harley and custom built chopper and a production bike with bolt ons and bolt offs isnot making it yours if you're buying parts available online for everyone..... thats my Nickle....keep the change son !!!

fmvolume said:

when you're modding something with parts everyone else is modding their bike with ..... it doesn't make it yours, it makes it like everyone else. You want a bike that's yours.... go weld up a frame and throw an engine in it. I ride a 2 sportbikes and I have custom Harley and custom built chopper and a production bike with bolt ons and bolt offs isnot making it yours if you're buying parts available online for everyone..... thats my Nickle....keep the change son !!!

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Dang...wish you had told me that before I bought all this carbon fiber?

there is no sensibility reason to go SO or FS.. if the max power is where you want to go, FS is just a part of that..

As to modding, well... it s a bit of a addiction is it...
let me tell you you have to a very looooooong way to call your own bike 'unique'.
rare , yes... unique? that's far out...

nothing wrong with adding mods and bolt on stuff..... we all do it and yes its fun , unique , and if you got the money sure why not..... but to say it makes it your own is silly. just makes it not stock and thats why they sell us a 20k + bike with a crappy seat and crappy rearset...... its where they make their money, selling us stuff lacking in different parts or us to spend more hard earned cash. People are actually buying an "R" and spending money on it...... why even buy the "R". buy the stock and spend away .... thats money spent right

I like you feel the stock 1199 exhaust sounds better than most. I've put full systems on all my bikes for sound, minor performance bump and weight savings. It was indeed more difficult to justify on the 1199 until my dealership offered to put them on with no labor cost! .......s! How could I resist??

Sounds a little better, and I'm sure a little lighter and *maybe* a little more seat of the pants performance. Most importantly I have Termi poser bragging rights!

Tom

This is the first bike I have had where I have been asking myself the same question. This bike's aesthetics are beautiful as it comes stock (well except for the fender). Normally I at least throw on a slip on to improve the looks of the hideous stock can and shave some weight, but with the pani the weight is already so light and the exhaust looks good. Plus the new map and everything and the bike is phenomenal as is. I upgrade bikes too often and told myself to keep the mods to a minimum as all that money is probably better spent on just purchasing the new model when it comes out. The new models are always so much better than the old that it's not worth dumping a .... ton into the old unless you are going to keep it a long time. I think the only mods I am going to do for my pani is the integrated tail light, fender eliminator, race seat, and sliders and call it good.

This bike is my favorite out of all of them I have had (many of which had a .... ton of mods).

Trauma said:

I have put after market exhaust on everything I ever owned, because of the 5-10% HP, sound, and weight/looks (on a bike). The Pani is a hard one to justify, as it already has the sound (Termis are identical with inserts), already has 195HP, and looks awesome. I know I will do it, just not as easy to justify (as if)

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+1
added after market exhaust on everything for the same reason but used to installing a full system for the price of 1199 slips which makes me cringe. I too know I will do it but dragging my feet about it.

996racer said:

I change parts because I like to wrench and if i can get a benefit in either looks or performance then I do it. Also, modding makes the bike "yours" and allows your to express yourself. Yes, Duc parts are not cheap, but then again, neither are Ducs!

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+1

Stock exhaust sounds better in my opinion, Term appears all bass and less highs (harmonics) than the stock. This is from sound clips on the web and from the Ducati web comparing these systems played through my Hi-Fi monitor using Beats audio processor. With that I believe the stock is more exotic and the Termi more racetrack thunder, louder too, but not the quality I associate refined exotics to be. JMO

Fragile said:

Stock exhaust sounds better in my opinion, Term appears all bass and less highs (harmonics) than the stock. This is from sound clips on the web and from the Ducati web comparing these systems played through my Hi-Fi monitor using Beats audio processor. With that I believe the stock is more exotic and the Termi more racetrack thunder, louder too, but not the quality I associate refined exotics to be. JMO

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Cannot agree with you.. sorry...

RE: Fueling

This is a known fact that motorcycles imported to the US have faced a difficult time with recent EPA noise emission standards. Many motorcycles get neutered by their manufacturers to meet these new standards (Euro 3 is harder as well), the bikes are far different from what their engineers intended.

E.g., The 2009+ R1 and 2011+ ZX-10R are well known to have ECU maps specific to the US that reduce their outputs SIGNIFICANTLY over rest-of-the-world models. ECU re-flashing is the only way to "unleash" many modern bike's true potential.

Ducati's approach has been slightly different from the Japanese, instead of making US-specific maps, they have used larger-volume exhausts to meet the increasingly difficult regulations. Without location-specific tuning, this results in spotty fueling. The remedy has often been non-road-homologated exhausts and maps that are designed the way the engineers intended, without regards to governmental restrictions. So getting a pre-packaged Termi exhaust and map has been one of the factory-approved, non-warranty-voiding methods to smooth fueling.

All that said, my bone-stock Pani with the latest stock ECU map fuels so well above 5K that I am shocked how good it is. In 195 Low mode it feels like an older perfectly carbureted bike, with incredibly smooth power application and no "jumpiness" that I've experienced on my previous MV F4 and Crossplane R1 bikes.

I lucked into a barely-used Termi slip-on, so I'm putting that on at the first service this week with a bunch of other mods. If it had cost me any more than half of retail, I would be very happy to stay stock. In fact, I'm kind of afraid that it won't run as well as stock with the slip-on and new up map. If it doesn't you'll be seeing a cheap Termi and up-map on eBay!

JeffD said:

RE: Fueling

- kind of afraid that it won't run as well as stock with the slip-on and new up map.......

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I don't know what your other mods are but the Termi slip-ons and ECU should definitely improve the bike's fueling. Consider a larger rear sprocket as well.

I paid 1200 EUR for the slip-ons (installed) when ordered at the same time with the bike. It is difficult to say which one sounds better if you just blip the throttle with the bike on its side stand. After installation my mechanic took the bike for a test ride. Hearing the bike shoot past the dealership (no baffles) convinced me that the slip-on sounds much better. 2 kg weight saving too.

Jariva said:

I paid 1200 EUR for the slip-ons (installed) when ordered at the same time with the bike. It is difficult to say which one sounds better if you just blip the throttle with the bike on its side stand. After installation my mechanic took the bike for a test ride. Hearing the bike shoot past the dealership (no baffles) convinced me that the slip-on sounds much better. 2 kg weight saving too.

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You got it man
IMO the only way to appreciate the full effect is to hear it from a distance in a drive by situation.
I don't think one can properly judge by riding it or listening to it idling next to you.

Cheers

Brad said:

You got it man
IMO the only way to appreciate the full effect is to hear it from a distance in a drive by situation.
I don't think one can properly judge by riding it or listening to it idling next to you.

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No offense meant, but you would spend $1800 USD to upgrade the sound so that people you are riding by get the biggest benefit?

Man, I wish I had that kind of altruistic streak and also the coin to back it up!

JeffD said:

No offense meant, but you would spend $1800 USD to upgrade the sound so that people you are riding by get the biggest benefit?

Man, I wish I had that kind of altruistic streak and also the coin to back it up!

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Funny, exactly what I was thinking reading that post. Never thought of it that way. Not to mention, for a $129 you you put in a Shorai battery, and get a bigger weight savings at a better place (higher).

Trauma said:

Funny, exactly what I was thinking reading that post. Never thought of it that way. Not to mention, for a $129 you you put in a Shorai battery, and get a bigger weight savings at a better place (higher).

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You know you want the Termis...

Stw said:

You know you want the Termis...

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I only want the look, I have a sound I love, and power I can't use...

Trauma said:

I only want the look, I have a sound I love, and power I can't use...

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Yeah...cant beat the sound of that exhaust when the flapper closes and it sounds like your engine shut down...