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These extremely high prices for Corse parts is the evidence of how impractical selling Corse bikes to the public would be. Low volume/high precision = expensive.

Also good luck if you have any Corse electronics problems with any of the proprietary stuff during the late 90s through 2010s. Tough to find computers that’ll run the software and god forbid if you need a new sensor. Might be ok for some time with the newer bikes since they’re running standardized ECU but you’ll likely need an engineer just to start the bike and get it running let alone mess with TC etc.

I suppose it would become expensive garage art at that point. One of my top dream bikes is a Supermono, and if I'm so blessed as to own one one day, I do plan on riding it. Should I be afraid to ride it because I can't get parts/support? If at some point some failure or problem prevents me from riding it, I'll push it to the top of a steep hill and coast down while making "Braaaap" noises if I have to. Probably more my pace anyways lol. Kaming rides his GP11 and I'm guessing parts and support are worse than any RS in civilian hands. For me, having to take that chance would be a good problem to have. YMMV.
 
Yep, there is a member here that has a MM sstk Kit that has been quite a project. The MM kit I got from BSD was plug an play and came with base map settings but you’re correct in that Wintax did run on an older windows platform. I like the aftermarket kits (MM,Motec) primary because of the complete segregated subsystems. I can use what I want and leave off what I don’t. In the case of my last build all I wanted was engine management. All the new Ducati electronic platforms are for sure awesome but way more than I want or need for what I’m doing and I can’t minimize it as it’s all integrated electronically and electrically. I’m currently using engine management, and QS function and running open loop (no O2) with pre defined maps. No rider aids. Super simple and very reliable.
 
Thank you for bringing some clarity into the mystique. A RS, especially BSB or WSBK spec, has always been one of my dream bikes. Maybe partially for the unobtanium parts, but also for the heritage of a particular bike….

I felt similarly until recently. A friend picked up a retired rs so I’ve gotten to witness the ownership experience - the notion of never meeting your heroes comes to mind.

If you’re so wealthy that money isn’t really a commodity anymore and you could have professional support to track a wsbk or gp bike, that would be fun, but otherwise idk.
 
I suppose it would become expensive garage art at that point. One of my top dream bikes is a Supermono, and if I'm so blessed as to own one one day, I do plan on riding it. Should I be afraid to ride it because I can't get parts/support? If at some point some failure or problem prevents me from riding it, I'll push it to the top of a steep hill and coast down while making "Braaaap" noises if I have to. Probably more my pace anyways lol. Kaming rides his GP11 and I'm guessing parts and support are worse than any RS in civilian hands. For me, having to take that chance would be a good problem to have. YMMV.

Supermono is prob ok. Used Weber FI and no sophisticated electronics. Electronics are probably similar to 916. Also I think Pierobon makes parts for the Supermono if you need anything.

Once you get into the TC era, that's where things can go sideways.

I've heard that running a Desmosedici, which was one of these bikes that lost Ducati a lot of money but gave them great street cred, is getting more and more difficult. You can't even run the original 16 inch rear with good track tires.
 
I felt similarly until recently. A friend picked up a retired rs so I’ve gotten to witness the ownership experience - the notion of never meeting your heroes comes to mind.

If you’re so wealthy that money isn’t really a commodity anymore and you could have professional support to track a wsbk or gp bike, that would be fun, but otherwise idk.

At least you don't own an 90s-2000s F1 car. You had to preheat the motor oil and hot start it
 
I felt similarly until recently. A friend picked up a retired rs so I’ve gotten to witness the ownership experience - the notion of never meeting your heroes comes to mind.

If you’re so wealthy that money isn’t really a commodity anymore and you could have professional support to track a wsbk or gp bike, that would be fun, but otherwise idk.

Another great problem to have, but no, I'm not wealthy. I'm just a working stiff that has always chased bikes that are out of my league, and as I age, experiences, before I get too old to enjoy them. I'd like to say that I'm a practical person, but who am I trying to kid? lol

Never say never, but reality is that I'll likely never own a RS. On the other hand, I have met my heroes -- Bayliss, Rossi, and Ago -- and they continue to be. :)
 
Supermono is prob ok. Used Weber FI and no sophisticated electronics. Electronics are probably similar to 916. Also I think Pierobon makes parts for the Supermono if you need anything.

Once you get into the TC era, that's where things can go sideways.

I've heard that running a Desmosedici, which was one of these bikes that lost Ducati a lot of money but gave them great street cred, is getting more and more difficult. You can't even run the original 16 inch rear with good track tires.

My understanding is that between Pierobon, Alistair Wager, and Jeff Nash, I could probably maintain a Supermono. I just need to be able to find and afford one first ;)

Funny you mention the D16RR. My "Eleanor" since 2008 when I had to give the one slated for me up. I've heard that Bridgestone is making the 16-inch BT-01R again, and either way, Marchesini and BST make 17" wheels that fit so you can run some decent rubber.
 
My understanding is that between Pierobon, Alistair Wager, and Jeff Nash, I could probably maintain a Supermono. I just need to be able to find and afford one first ;)

Funny you mention the D16RR. My "Eleanor" since 2008 when I had to give the one slated for me up. I've heard that Bridgestone is making the 16-inch BT-01R again, and either way, Marchesini and BST make 17" wheels that fit so you can run some decent rubber.

17” tires on D16 is sacrilegious
 
This place currently has Scott Redding's WSBK RS for sale, I did us all a favor and asked the price- it can be yours for 180k.

Ducati Panigale WSBK - Amatumoto Grand Prix Motorbikes

Someone buy it and tell us how it is, lol

If only!

They have a tendency to make slow guys less slow...

;)

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You have some high standards, lol. The only thing that would stop me from buying that bike is... $180K. ;)

Haha! Doesn’t everyone have $180k burning a whole in their/thems pocket? I mean I heard Biden was handing out money left and right to lazy unemployed people during Covid recovery. If those people can’t afford it, then no one can.
 
I know someone (they/thems) on here has the means 👀

Also- the same site has the Loris Baz RS from motoAmerica for sale, and yes I did us the favor and asked- $120k AND that includes a free spare motor

In the words of our President, "C'mon man!"

Real question though- is it that unrealistic to run a current V4RS like these for track days? With as few km as we'd be putting on them doing a track day every few months and a competent Duc dealer nearby- could it be done?
 
you secret wsbk stars need to write a letter to Gigi with your complaints or move to a better manufacturer for your "platform" so you can showcase your amazing skills having outridden this Ducati scene
 
Real question though- is it that unrealistic to run a current V4RS like these for track days? With as few km as we'd be putting on them doing a track day every few months and a competent Duc dealer nearby- could it be done?

If you have enough money to throw at it, sure. But, using a dealership mechanic for a V4RS is a big question mark.
 
I know someone (they/thems) on here has the means 👀

Also- the same site has the Loris Baz RS from motoAmerica for sale, and yes I did us the favor and asked- $120k AND that includes a free spare motor

In the words of our President, "C'mon man!"

Real question though- is it that unrealistic to run a current V4RS like these for track days? With as few km as we'd be putting on them doing a track day every few months and a competent Duc dealer nearby- could it be done?

There’s a Baz bike in the pits here at COTA right now… unfortunately, on the trailer.
 

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