DUCATI V4SP ENGINE UPGRADES?????
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At the wheel or at the crank?
WHP normally means wheel horse power
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My bad bro (facepalm).
sounds expensive for b all gains
sounds like your really against the new tech , yes its expensive but you do get the goodies with that aswell not always about the power vs price , remember you get the good wheels , suspension, whether you like elctronic ones or not , you get all the assistance of the electronics in the bike , good breaking system good clutch system and many other good parts you wouldnt get on the standard v4 for example, so i guess on the other hand i understand where you are coming from if you were to say buy a $5000 gsxr 2006 and pout 20k into it would have insane amounts of gains , comes down to preference end of the day maybe i guess , cheers for the comment man
Nope, not against new tech at all. Do a little site research. Everything has its place and Ducati thought the right thing to do was to give 98% of V4 buyers a whole bunch of goofy .... they won’t ever have the skill sets to turn on much less use.
If Ducati was serious about it’s privateer effort and it’s serious riders and wanted at least some contrast to the Gucci handbag for men that they currently sell in the showroom they could easily make 200-500 RS bikes with a headlight and a license plate holder. I’d drop 130k all day on that before I would ever drop 50 on aV4R that I have to put another 60 in to get it to make it worth the 50 I paid for it.
if everyone was just born with a big ...., we sure could save a .... ton of money compensating for lack of.
If Ducati was serious about it’s privateer effort and it’s serious riders and wanted at least some contrast to the Gucci handbag for men that they currently sell in the showroom they could easily make 200-500 RS bikes with a headlight and a license plate holder. I’d drop 130k all day on that before I would ever drop 50 on aV4R that I have to put another 60 in to get it to make it worth the 50 I paid for it.
if everyone was just born with a big ...., we sure could save a .... ton of money compensating for lack of.
Well its a shame you see it that way ,
Once we all do well I life isn't anything expensive we buy to enjoy it or to show it off?
I have an R6 that I'll use for its full potential as your right in saying half of the riders will never use a V4 to its full potential ,
That doesn't mean we don't want one because there our or somebody's dream bike also , , having fancy electronics still get used , having a lighter bike still gets used , whats the diffrence in dropping 130k pm a bike or 50k on a bike then building it to suit for 60k that's still 20k cheaper then your proposed ideal situation ,
Anyway I bought the bike because I love them , love the look of them and love the rush it gives me , I'll be using it for speed runs , drags and track days , and the R6 for more serious stuff
So if you wanna class that as swinging .... or what not then that's entirely upto you
At the end of the day it's okay if you prefer one bike over another, but if someone else is willing to spend this or that and it doesn't fit your ideology why bother raining on that parade ? It's really pointless lol
Steven is a classic example. Guy spends 50k on a bike and puts another 50 into it and he’s still going. Do you know why the aftermarket parts business is so big and lucrative? Because the ....... manufacturers aren’t giving a decent size portion of their buyers what they want. They won’t sell you the “good stuff” at the dealership they sell you the OEM .... and the rest is up to you.
BUT so what ,
your so naïve ...
If he is happy to do that then he's happy to do that , hence why it's a hobby aswell
your so naïve ...Pippa, you got the bike they were offering. So did Steven. You didn’t get the bike you wanted. You’re still dumping money into that thing trying to get what Ducati didn’t deliver. If you were serious about getting what you wanted then you would not have settled for what was offered.
You would have called Motorapido given them a blank check and a build list and had them build you a spec bike but you didn’t. Not arguing with you and I’m not against anyone doing anything they want to but keep it real man. You got the bike that was offered and now your spending money to get it closer to what you wanted.
You would have called Motorapido given them a blank check and a build list and had them build you a spec bike but you didn’t. Not arguing with you and I’m not against anyone doing anything they want to but keep it real man. You got the bike that was offered and now your spending money to get it closer to what you wanted.
I have exactly what I want ,
Literally the only reason I'm doing work on it is because I enjoy it , it's literally as simple as that
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Sounds like you're going to have a great time with the bike Pippa!
Let us know how you get wrong at the speed run and if you make any big gains!
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I usually agree with you, and do somewhat on this topic. In my case, if I knew exactly what I wanted, I couldn’t afford a blank check order because no one could do it to MY satisfaction. I actually prefer to buy a top-of-the-line product and then “ make it mine” by doing whatever I f*cking want to it and perform all possible work myself. I’m not a MotoGP, WSBK or MotoAmerica level racer, but I like what I like and it can’t be bought at once in a single package. It must be realized through test/eval/change/test/evaluation. It’s a process that never really ends, even a decade later as new tech becomes available. Out of my 5 current bikes, 3 are still cable throttle, no electronics. I buy exactly what I want, modify it to be mine and keep it if at all financially possible.
Instead of buying a well-known Supercar, I buy a lesser car, modify it to be better(IMO) than said Supercar for my purposes, such that in my environment, my slightly or heavily modified car will be quicker/faster for less money than the Supercar.
Inflation and technical advances make it an expensive hobby/passion, regardless. Anyone with enough money can just buy whatever suits them today, week, month, year, but I invest my time/effort into improving my toys so they’re “mine”.
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How you get along! Not how you get wrong...autocorrect!
Some of the replies.... A guy turns up all excited about his new SP and shares what he want to do, asks a few questions then gets Endos "Your Ducati that you spent 60k on is ...." lecture.
I disagree, Ducati make a great bike both the xx99s and the V4 are triumphs of engineering, they look good, sound and go extremely well. Can you improve them? Of course, and the aftermarket knows middle aged men have plenty of coin and dont mind spending it on Ducati dress ups.
There is zero difference between the Harley bros who buy all the cosplay gear, tassles,crap etc and the Ducatista who buy exposed carbon panels and brand name "upgrades" Different bikes, same middle aged market. Racers comprise about .0001% of bike owners so you can safely ignore their opinions on how a street bike should be, same with wannabe racers who have "all the gear and no idea"
Pippa, good luck with the bike, I think that you are in the land of seriously diminishing returns by tuning engine internals. The short answer is that to get more power you need to increase revs, and you will need to spend big time to truly take it to the next level. I think the R is boasting 230 with a pipe? So that should be doable.
OR for a heap of entertainment do what everyone else does to get more fuel/air in and get a blower!
I disagree, Ducati make a great bike both the xx99s and the V4 are triumphs of engineering, they look good, sound and go extremely well. Can you improve them? Of course, and the aftermarket knows middle aged men have plenty of coin and dont mind spending it on Ducati dress ups.
There is zero difference between the Harley bros who buy all the cosplay gear, tassles,crap etc and the Ducatista who buy exposed carbon panels and brand name "upgrades" Different bikes, same middle aged market. Racers comprise about .0001% of bike owners so you can safely ignore their opinions on how a street bike should be, same with wannabe racers who have "all the gear and no idea"
Pippa, good luck with the bike, I think that you are in the land of seriously diminishing returns by tuning engine internals. The short answer is that to get more power you need to increase revs, and you will need to spend big time to truly take it to the next level. I think the R is boasting 230 with a pipe? So that should be doable.
OR for a heap of entertainment do what everyone else does to get more fuel/air in and get a blower!
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Ha, a friend of mine had a supercharged 998. It was hilarious, so much power, well north of 200whp. Impossible to keep the front wheel down, the chassis and electronics had no hope!
SLR handheld can lift the revs, not 100% sure, but maybe another 1,000rpm? Presumably the engine won't last as long, but should be fun.
Supercharger may be more reliable?
SLR handheld can lift the revs, not 100% sure, but maybe another 1,000rpm? Presumably the engine won't last as long, but should be fun.
Supercharger may be more reliable?
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