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Jolly Roger V4 said:
Yeah I saw you do that this last weekend my friend!!!!
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Yup, then he went to talk with his buddy about it, good times. I asked him how the conversation was going and Kev said something about getting weight loss tips?
 

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Steven31371 said:
Yup, then he went to talk with his buddy about it, good times. I asked him how the conversation was going and Kev said something about getting weight loss tips?
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HAHA....sitting next to a skeleton makes my ass look big! Though the cheese grader effect on my back fat is even more embarrassing :p

Good to meet you man, and see your beast in person.
 
Hi guys,
A few years ago I flipped/looped my 888SP4 when "learning" to wheelie breaking my leg, ankle etc. This has unfortunately made me a little wary/paranoid of repeating the trick on my Streetfighter V4 S. I would absolutely love to wheelie confidently and the wonder if DWC would allow me to hit 10 oclock without another repeat of the disaster. My question is this. will DWC allow a controlled wheelie and stop the bike from flipping over?
Thanks in advance :)
 
What a waste of an SP4!!
Maybe wheelies aren't for you? 😀
Relying on electronics is either going to result in sub optimal height or an uncontrollable vertical, with dire consequences.
I'd leave it to the stunt riders.
 
DWC is more for power wheelies than double clutching. Any of the electronic aids are not going to overcome physics.
 
There's a six axis sensor on the bike. So I'm thinking it won't let you flip it over. I have it turned off but I've added antisquat, raised the gearing and live at 5000 ft.
 
craig bush said:
Can dwc be trusted to limit a power wheelie and prevent it from looping? I ride the rear brake as a precaution, but maybe there’s no need? 🤷‍♂️
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I'm not so sure. The description for the highest DWC level says...

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I suppose you could max DWC out and try a double clutch wheelie and see how it behaves. The oddity here is double clutching. I'd think even at DWC 8 you could possibly get a wheelie on sharp hill crests at speed etc. I'd expect the bike to "sensitively intervenes" for that type of situation.
 
I use DWC at setting 1 on my V2 and power wheelie to 10 o'clock all the time. Electronics are excellent and predictable, although I do cover the rear brake. You can't clutch up a wheelie with any rider aids on, but power wheelie all you want. At the track, I use higher settings to avoid frowned upon hooligans moves.
 
0260n25 said:
I use DWC at setting 1 on my V2 and power wheelie to 10 o'clock all the time. Electronics are excellent and predictable, although I do cover the rear brake. You can't clutch up a wheelie with any rider aids on, but power wheelie all you want. At the track, I use higher settings to avoid frowned upon hooligans moves.
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Thank you for the belated reply.
 
I can clutch up with DWC on 1 but wheelies are not my thing on big bikes so once it's up to where I'm comfortable I just ride it out. If anyone wants to learn to wheelie, get a dirt bike or better still learn on a bicycle (you get fit as well!)
 
Paul G said:
I can clutch up with DWC on 1
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The newer electronics in the US 2021 V2 won't allow this. If you try to clutch up a wheelie with DWC on any level, it will get you up to about 1 foot and then slam you down very hard. It is quite unpleasant. I have sport mode set to DWC and TC off so I can clutch wheelies. Race mode has DWC on 2 for the track. But yes, DWC on the 2021 V2 (and probably any other Panigale with those electronics) allows for full-throttle power wheelies that stop nicely at 10 o'clock every single time and then float down nicely. Heck, I float a low one out of hot pits at the track when getting up to speed for entering near turn one without covering the rear brake. Predictable.
 
Anyone tried other settings for antiwheelie control? Like 2 or 3? I need some settings which doesnt allow more than 3-4 feets from ground of thats possible
 
petarr said:
Anyone tried other settings for antiwheelie control? Like 2 or 3? I need some settings which doesnt allow more than 3-4 feets from ground of thats possible
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what bike do you have?
assuming a superbike from 2012-2020 (years i'm familiar with), you need to learn to control them without DWC. DWC will not be repeatable everytime, it is very much dependent on road conditions and angle up/down of the road. On track, on the race line, you'll get pretty predictable results as the road is unchanging. I put DWC at 2 or 3 for track riding and OFF for street.

I'm very much a big wheelie guy, its kinda my jam homie.

DWC does not control height in a repeatable and predictable way on the street. It will limit how quickly the front end comes up though, that is the key point to understand...no limit on height, will limit the speed it pops up...get it?

on street with so many variables, depending on DWC to keep you safe, AND trying to ride wheelies is a recipe for disaster.

Power up in 1st or 2nd gear (assuming you have a superbike), then shift right before or AT balance point, repeat until your at top of 4th gear.

OR

Stand up on pegs around 50mph in 2nd, bounce downwards, lock your knees, and pull bike to balance point (your standing with knee's locked), and using your elbow as the pivot point to keep the bike at balance point, and maintaining throttle constant...the variable will be your elbow pushing and pulling as needed. You can ride a wheelie for as long as you want this way...although I limit it to 30-45seconds max....thats a long time up on one wheel buddy.

Also, i spent years...and years....maybe 10 or so learning and perfecting wheelies...and i started on a 600cc CBR...then liter bikes....I took my time, practiced away from traffic way out in the country...and have never had an issue....by the time i was in San Diego in the Navy...i was ridding standup wheelies across the coranado bay bridge! Ive calmed down a lot in my later years....and these ducati superbikes are not the easiest to do them on...and def harder to learn on.

good luck, stay safe
Jag

JAG
 
SirJAG said:
what bike do you have?
assuming a superbike from 2012-2020 (years i'm familiar with), you need to learn to control them without DWC. DWC will not be repeatable everytime, it is very much dependent on road conditions and angle up/down of the road. On track, on the race line, you'll get pretty predictable results as the road is unchanging. I put DWC at 2 or 3 for track riding and OFF for street.

I'm very much a big wheelie guy, its kinda my jam homie.

DWC does not control height in a repeatable and predictable way on the street. It will limit how quickly the front end comes up though, that is the key point to understand...no limit on height, will limit the speed it pops up...get it?

on street with so many variables, depending on DWC to keep you safe, AND trying to ride wheelies is a recipe for disaster.

Power up in 1st or 2nd gear (assuming you have a superbike), then shift right before or AT balance point, repeat until your at top of 4th gear.

OR

Stand up on pegs around 50mph in 2nd, bounce downwards, lock your knees, and pull bike to balance point (your standing with knee's locked), and using your elbow as the pivot point to keep the bike at balance point, and maintaining throttle constant...the variable will be your elbow pushing and pulling as needed. You can ride a wheelie for as long as you want this way...although I limit it to 30-45seconds max....thats a long time up on one wheel buddy.

Also, i spent years...and years....maybe 10 or so learning and perfecting wheelies...and i started on a 600cc CBR...then liter bikes....I took my time, practiced away from traffic way out in the country...and have never had an issue....by the time i was in San Diego in the Navy...i was ridding standup wheelies across the coranado bay bridge! Ive calmed down a lot in my later years....and these ducati superbikes are not the easiest to do them on...and def harder to learn on.

good luck, stay safe
Jag

JAG
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Understand. Thought that dwc works in different way . I have v4 panigale. Thanks for detailed post 🤝
 
SirJAG said:
what bike do you have?
assuming a superbike from 2012-2020 (years i'm familiar with), you need to learn to control them without DWC. DWC will not be repeatable everytime, it is very much dependent on road conditions and angle up/down of the road. On track, on the race line, you'll get pretty predictable results as the road is unchanging. I put DWC at 2 or 3 for track riding and OFF for street.

I'm very much a big wheelie guy, its kinda my jam homie.

DWC does not control height in a repeatable and predictable way on the street. It will limit how quickly the front end comes up though, that is the key point to understand...no limit on height, will limit the speed it pops up...get it?

on street with so many variables, depending on DWC to keep you safe, AND trying to ride wheelies is a recipe for disaster.

Power up in 1st or 2nd gear (assuming you have a superbike), then shift right before or AT balance point, repeat until your at top of 4th gear.

OR

Stand up on pegs around 50mph in 2nd, bounce downwards, lock your knees, and pull bike to balance point (your standing with knee's locked), and using your elbow as the pivot point to keep the bike at balance point, and maintaining throttle constant...the variable will be your elbow pushing and pulling as needed. You can ride a wheelie for as long as you want this way...although I limit it to 30-45seconds max....thats a long time up on one wheel buddy.

Also, i spent years...and years....maybe 10 or so learning and perfecting wheelies...and i started on a 600cc CBR...then liter bikes....I took my time, practiced away from traffic way out in the country...and have never had an issue....by the time i was in San Diego in the Navy...i was ridding standup wheelies across the coranado bay bridge! Ive calmed down a lot in my later years....and these ducati superbikes are not the easiest to do them on...and def harder to learn on.

good luck, stay safe
Jag

JAG
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And learn to change ohlins fork seals.
 

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