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Phil said:
my dealer put 40 psi in the Michelin at the last tire change. i called them and asked why, they said "that's what we put in there".

i understood they'd use the 32psi for the supercorsa at least. knowing i'd take it to the track right away and knowing my type of riding they should have gone with 25.


good that i checked it as soon as i got home.

next tire will be done at home again.

might try the dunlopz...
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Dealers are idiots.....
 
I like the pirelli's a lot for the street but I'm a fan of dunlop so I'll give the q3's a try next go round.
 
super interesting i just did some digging

the pirelli width in mm for the 200/55 is actually 193 with a diam of 656 mm

the 190/55 dunlop is actualy 7.62 in which = 193.548 the total diameter is 25.58 in which = 649.73

the tred depth of pirelli is 5mm q3 is 5.55 or 7/32

tires are so close
 
Stw said:
I have heard some dealers do that with oil also...:rolleyes:
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Yeah, cause that's the same thing...

It's usually done for people who bring their tires in off the bike, but you probably don't do that. ;)

It's the owner's responsibility to check his ride. I'm speaking from my experiences as well (trackside and storefront).
 
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TransNone13 said:
Yeah, cause that's the same thing...

It's usually done for people who bring their tires in off the bike, but you probably don't do that. ;)

It's the owner's responsibility to check his ride.
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I dont go to my dealer for ........:cool:
 
mark419ny said:
super interesting i just did some digging

the pirelli width in mm for the 200/55 is actually 193 with a diam of 656 mm

the 190/55 dunlop is actualy 7.62 in which = 193.548 the total diameter is 25.58 in which = 649.73

the tred depth of pirelli is 5mm q3 is 5.55 or 7/32

tires are so close
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As I've said - the 190/55 dunlop is essentially the same size as the 200/55. There isn't anywhere near the 10mm difference that the difference in nomenclature would suggest.

On top of that Dunlop has 200/55 size in D211GP and 190/55 in D211GP-A. Guess what - both are within 1mm size of each other within their own brand. ..
 
mark419ny said:
pirelli claim was that no other tire would work with the pani becuase of the electronics. this has been found to be untrue.
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I was going through my manual (I know, crazy for somebody to do that) since I'm thinking of putting on a set of SC's. I remembered seeing in there that the DTC was calibrated for one of the SC compounds, turns out level 1 is calibrated for a set of SC2's. And get this, level 8...a 190/55 Pirelli Diablo Rain on the rear.
 
bwaide said:
I was going through my manual (I know, crazy for somebody to do that) since I'm thinking of putting on a set of SC's. I remembered seeing in there that the DTC was calibrated for one of the SC compounds, turns out level 1 is calibrated for a set of SC2's. And get this, level 8...a 190/55 Pirelli Diablo Rain on the rear.
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My God someone actually took time to read the manual. Good on you for doing that. Few more should try it. All sorts of interesting stuff in there.
 
Both tires are great, and ive been running either SP's or Q2's.

Bought Q3's but they went with the 848 before I could run them.

Q2's are great and never slipped but tip in was slower, they have addressed that with Q3's.

The only fault anyone can say about the SP on the street, is price. If they were the same price I would never have changed brands. SP2's are supposed to last a bit longer, but price is still jacked.

Looks like ill be doing the Q3's as well when its time.
 
for the average rider, going with the OE tuned performance tire maximizes safety unless you are a track star and know what is better to swap on given the conditions. I'm sticking with the stock tires. YMMV
 
I have a set of Q3's on mine and rode it here at the track at Grattan Raceway for 2 days. Tire pressure was a little high the first day even after the first couple sessions and setting cold pressure to 30/30. Felt slippery here (Michigan) Temp out was probably cool in the morning, maybe low 60's. I dropped the pressure after getting a feel for them the first couple sessions to 27F/26R and left them that way all day. The only downside is the Q3's tend to cool off even when you sit them in the sun, so just go easy on them in the corners the first couple laps. After that, have fun! These are some phenominal tires.

Last set I had were the Pirelli Rosso Corsa's 190/55 and those performed very well but shed a lot even with a higher pressure in them. The Corsa's were VERY good tires. But the Q3's are even better. The Corsa's kicked the TC on a few times (DTC 2, 195LO), but I don't remember seeing the light come on at all with the Q3's. I would HIGHLY recommend the Q3's. I have had the Rosso's, Rosso II, Corsa's, Supercorsa's and the Q2's and I think these are by far the best ones I have tried. Especially bang for buck! :D
 
Yesterday, I spoke to the Dunlop reps from NY here at the 2013 AIMExpo trade show in Orlando, FL.

They confirmed everything that Mark has described in the beginning of this thread. I'm looking forward to trying the Q3s as my next set. I've gone through a set of Bridgestone S20s (with 190/55 rear) and as Steve B reported earlier, they are an excellent street tire with impressive wet performance and enough dry grip to wear out a set of knee pucks on the street and in the Blue Ridge mountains.

Had nothing but excellent experiences with a Buell 1125R and Dunlop Q2's, such as this ride below (I'm the bike being followed), so if the Q3's are any better its a bonus.

Isle of Man TT... In the USA! Buell 1125R and Yamaha R1 Mountain Run - YouTube
 
JeffD said:
I've gone through a set of Bridgestone S20s (with 190/55 rear) and as Steve B reported earlier, they are an excellent street tire with impressive wet performance and enough dry grip to wear out a set of knee pucks on the street and in the Blue Ridge mountains.
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You ran Bridgestones on a Pani? Would be curious to hear more about this. My experiences with Bridgestones on track (slicks) were less than satisfactory. But on the street, I've run them before on my Triumph and thought they worked really well.
Which ones/what size and what were your impressions? Mileage? Pressures? etc?
 
Fragile said:
for the average rider, going with the OE tuned performance tire maximizes safety unless you are a track star and know what is better to swap on given the conditions. I'm sticking with the stock tires. YMMV
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are you remotely serious with this comment? has nothing to do with dollars and all to do with safety of the rider? if dunlop or michelin had an agreement with ducati you bet your ass those brands would be on there.
 
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