Engine cutting out - like an unintentional quick shifter engagement. Bad Lean Angle Inertial Tipover Sensor?

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Rats. I thought my quickshifter was bad, so I replaced it, and I'm still having the same problem: on the track, the engine cuts out quickly like the ignition or fuel, is being cut. I'd love some ideas. Here's a summary:
  • Testing the bike on the street weeks ago, everything ran smooth. When I went to the track, the first two sessions were ok But the Translogic quickshifter was too sensitive for my tastes, so I swapped it out for OEM.
  • But somewhere in that session, I started having what felt like unintentional activations of the QS. As the session went on, the shift level became a bit jammed and weird, so I pulled off.
  • The bolt holding the shift linkage had backed out (my fault), and was rubbing in to the swingarm, impinging the shifting. I tightened that up, and went back out. Still had the misfiring issue. So I assumed that I had broken something due to the bolt backing out.
  • At home the next day, I took the QS apart and noticed that the little pin the moves back and forth to activates the bi-directional switches was slightly bent. So I ordered a new OEM QS and replaced it.
  • Back on the track yesterday, same problem. So I disconnected the QS, at the connector next to the shift shaft, and went back out. Still happening. So I think it can't be the QS, right?
  • This And it's intermittent and kind of stops when I pull off the track and then go back out. And I can't recreate it riding fast on backroads, so it makes me think it's something with the lean angle sensor or similar.
  • This did seem to start happening when I jammed up that QS, so maybe it did something inside the shift shaft? But I doubt it. I think it's just coincidence.
  • You know what, I bet those accidental activations of the Translogic QS were not actually accidental activations of the QS, but the start of this problem...
  • I'm not getting any CEL codes or ERRORs. (Except when I unplug the QS, I get ERROR on the dash, which is right.)
  • I'm going to pull the body work off today and have a look at everything, but I doubt something came loose. Either something was bad when I got this bike (again, it was a salvage), or, more likely, I installed something incorrectly.
  • Oh, and I reflashed the tune, and that didn't fix it.
  • My mechanic just went on a cruise, but he thinks that maybe it's the Lean Angle Inertial Tipover Sensor, which make sense. I never took this off or messed with it in my build, but maybe it came loose.
 
I'm thinking maybe it's this aftermarket kill switch / throttle housing combo. Let me put the OEM one back on.
 
Not surprised considering this was a written off bike.

Should’ve changed the harness while you had the chance…

Should’ve shaked the bike down as stock as possible.

Now you’ve got a mess. GLWS
 
surprised to hear about lean angle, i'd double confirm that...i know for a fact the 1199 does not have that...as i had to crawl to mine and turn the motor off after a low side

JAG
 
surprised to hear about lean angle, i'd double confirm that...i know for a fact the 1199 does not have that...as i had to crawl to mine and turn the motor off after a low side

JAG
I definitely has a lean angle sensor, and I think tip over sensor, built-in. it’s upfront attached to your faring stay. I’m just speculating that could be what it is.
 

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Spent some time with some people at the racetrack diagnosing this. We think it’s something to do with the fuel or maybe an ignition coil. My guess is a bit of both. I never change the fuel filter before running this bike, which was dumb, as it sat a while. And maybe clogged injectors. And I’m thinking that maybe when I change the spark plugs I didn’t put the ignition coils back on tightly or maybe damaged them. It feels like it’s maybe loose.

I dropped it with the Ducati race mechanics, so we will see.
 
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I assume you've bypassed the kickstand switch. But If the kickstand switch is on the bike take a good look at it.
 
I think the fuel pump has been the same since the 1199 and I've never heard about there being a filter.
 
There's inlet socks on the pump. If you've let E10 do its thing for awhile you need to clean them.

I think this is correct. I haven’t looked myself, but this guy I’ve dropped it with has worked on Ducatis / Panigales for ages and says they have filter filters that can be changed. I doubt he’d make that up. I’m pretty sure it’s inside the pump housing.
 
I think this is correct. I haven’t looked myself, but this guy I’ve dropped it with has worked on Ducatis / Panigales for ages and says they have filter filters that can be changed. I doubt he’d make that up. I’m pretty sure it’s inside the pump housing.

But maybe that means the whole pump has to be replaced? Can you get just the little bag? Or just clean it?
 
I assume you've bypassed the kickstand switch. But If the kickstand switch is on the bike take a good look at it.

I’m just rereading this. I’ll have the mechanic look at it, but what happens? Does the bypass plug just not work right, or something? Maybe I did it wrong. I got the jet prime unit, and if I remember correctly, I think I just plugged it in and then secured it with a zip tie in safe place. Is the switch still active, or something? Maybe I just didn’t understand what I was doing.
 
Clogged fuel screen / "filter" is for sure at least part of the problem (I'd think?!). He's going to clean it up, but the pump back together, and run it on the dyno and see if that "fixes" it.
 

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The bigger question is where is that filter? Ducati 1199+ fuel pumps all look the same, with plastic tabs you'd have to pry to disassemble it.
 

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