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it’s stacking up to be a 1,000 miles week for my 1299. I guess some of us think they are good street bikes and others are spoiled by time at the track.
I do however have more blisters on my legs. Yeah I’m a pos, and can’t help ripping around with shorts on
1299 makes my thighs blister, V4 makes blisters show up on my calves
 
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DucatiKev said:
it’s stacking up to be a 1,000 miles week for my 1299. I guess some of us think they are good street bikes and others are spoiled by time at the track.
I do however have more blisters on my legs. Yeah I’m a pos, and can’t help ripping around with shorts on
1299 makes my thighs blister, V4 makes blisters show up on my calves
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Good of you to do the research for us DucatiKev!
 
I was going to say...I do all my riding on the road. Have a VFR as well as the Duc and of course the Honda is the sensible road bike. But it's the V4S that inspires me to go for a ride. On the road.
 
ArcticWhite said:
It's not the kms that made it a good streetbike. It's the smiles during those kms :)
Yes, I agree it is all relative and it is no where near the street/touring bike of say a 1290GT. BUT, I really do enjoy riding the V4 on the street and I'm putting way more miles on it than I thought I would.
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The Panigale is a real smile generator for sure, both on and off the bike. In a utopic world we would have a bike for every occasion.
Realistically, two ideal bikes in the garage would be a Multistrada (or 1290GT) and a Panigale.
On that note, that's exactly what I'm considering. Trading the Monster for a Panigale V4 such as yours in 2022.
 
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I took my 959 and made it my dedicated track bike, but missed having a sport bike on the street so the S1000R got replaced with a 19 V4S. After experiencing what the V4S is capable on the street, I’d actually be hesitant to bring it to the track over the 959. I view it as it’s just more opportunity to get in trouble faster. The V4S on the street is actually more comfortable to ride than the 959 or the S1000R. In street mode, the suspension really smooths out the crappy roads we have here in Chicago to deal with to get to the fun roads.

For the street, Yes it’s HOT, but wear the right gear (leathers if riding for day, riding jeans only if just a short trip) and it’s fine. I did order the heat resistant leggings to try that were mentioned in one of the threads to see if there is any improvement.

I have a KTM 1290 Super Adventure S for commuting/touring, as having the right bike for activity definitely makes the overall riding experience more fun. For some crazy reason, I am looking at adding a naked bike again as well... The sickness never seems to be cured :).
 
DarR said:
The Panigale is a real smile generator for sure, both on and off the bike. In a utopic world we would have a bike for every occasion.
Realistically, two ideal bikes in the garage would be a Multistrada (or 1290GT) and a Panigale.
On that note, that's exactly what I'm considering. Trading the Monster for a Panigale V4 such as yours in 2022.
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having a mix is nice. Had a multi S i loved, but traded for a GSA when i stationed overseas. Wanted the spoked wheels and 8gal tanks and long travel for bum .... nowhere. 3 weeks after i bought the GSA Ducati released the Multi Enduro. facepalm

gsa has been a great bike though, especially with the tractive dynamic coilovers on it. Served me well across three continents at times carrying heavy loads. its going to continue to be a good work horse when i park another duc next to it
 
Back in April bought a supernaked and after riding it for about a month,considered selling the Pv4. No crazy heat , comfortable and smooth. Then jumped back on the Pv4 and wow, realized I have to have this bike in my life. I just love the power delivery, the sound of the bike, the beauty of it, the vibrations and the roughness.
 
Started on Monster--loved it until it was stolen. Changed to a BMW R9T--loved it, no heat issues, but very tame. Switched back to 959--not looking back any more. Ducati is your pure fun.
 
A lot of the complaints come from hot climates, our summer here can get up to early 30c and higher in city traffic with the reflected heat, sure its hot but since I ride in leather pants 90% of the time, I just take the heat as it comes. All things being equal if you're burning x gas at y time its going to generate the the same heat, its all about how to disperse it. Changing headers and slip ons to increase power would logically increase heat (not much) but its not going to cool it because you're burning more gas, enriching the mixture would cool it though so I presume any anecdotes of a coolness would come after a tune. Wrapping headers may reduce it by tiny amount but I suspect that you would need a lot of wrap to make a noticable difference. Most of the solutions I have read on here seem to be placebo or just plain old wishful thinking

Airflow is everything about dissapaiting heat and I'm afraid the options are limited, the widebody 2020 fairings are probably better but unless you work out how to increase the surface area of that lump of metal or make more wind, it is what it is.
 
Paul G said:
A lot of the complaints come from hot climates, our summer here can get up to early 30c and higher in city traffic with the reflected heat, sure its hot but since I ride in leather pants 90% of the time, I just take the heat as it comes. All things being equal if you're burning x gas at y time its going to generate the the same heat, its all about how to disperse it. Changing headers and slip ons to increase power would logically increase heat (not much) but its not going to cool it because you're burning more gas, enriching the mixture would cool it though so I presume any anecdotes of a coolness would come after a tune. Wrapping headers may reduce it by tiny amount but I suspect that you would need a lot of wrap to make a noticable difference. Most of the solutions I have read on here seem to be placebo or just plain old wishful thinking

Airflow is everything about dissapaiting heat and I'm afraid the options are limited, the widebody 2020 fairings are probably better but unless you work out how to increase the surface area of that lump of metal or make more wind, it is what it is.
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I agree with all, but here are some of the placebos/wishes that I have done and it does help even in 90 degrees in NYC (feel free to chuckle at my expense):

1. Got the HEAT Shields: Panigale Heat Shield Kit
2. Got the Ducati Performance Seat: https://amsducati.com/ducati-panigale-comfort-seat
3. Got the Engine Ice: Engine Ice – When it comes to engine coolant and antifreeze choose Engine Ice! The Powersport Industries #1 engine coolant.
4. Got the Jegs flame retardent underwear: Impact Racing 78810413: Nomex Underwear Shorts Medium | JEGS

Bottom-line: at 90-100 degrees, city riding, I can wear regular jeans (and shorts for very short rides) and not burn. I've ridden as commutes to work and all the way from NYC to CHI and I couldn't be happier.
 
RdashP said:
... hi-tech LenzingFR material* shuts the heat out ... I can still feel the increased heat coming from the bike in my knee cavities, this layer improves heat resistance incredibly. No more rash/ blisters for me in slow traffic on hot days (>25oC).
... Actually, It feels cooler/ less steamy than my normal 'plastic' moto leggings** which are 100% crude oil based derivatives.
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(* - modal-viscose/aramid/polyamide(!?)/elastane/carbon (61/26/8/4/1))
(** - polyamide(nylon)/polyester/elastane (60/30/10)
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Correction after a recent 4000km/2500mi trip up and down through the Alps:
Contrary to my Alpinestars racing leathers, the Furygan street oriented raptor evo leathers I was wearing on this trip has no leather- but stretchy cloth panels for the backside of the upper legs and knee cavities.

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This means, like with a moto jeans, it also doesn't block excessive heat enough coming from the V4 enige/ exhaust in those areas, especially when transferring slowly through busy Italian villages around 30oC/85oF baking in the sun.
So even with my hi-tech LenzingFR legging underneath, I still got a mild(er) heat rash on the backside of my upper legs and little reddish and sore in the knee cavities too.

Remedy: put two layers of legging on. I simply put my hi-tech LenzingFR legging on top of the normal sweat wigging moto legging!
Although a little warm wearing a pair of leggings underneath my Furygan trousers, this finally does isolate the backside of my upper legs enough to remedy heat rashes and blisters.
 
I've been city riding on my V4 with normal jeans...thru lots of traffic lights...in an all year long summer country... the heat is nothing compared to the riding satisfaction ... so far acceptable...
 
PANIGALEV4RR said:
I've been city riding on my V4 with normal jeans...thru lots of traffic lights...in an all year long summer country... the heat is nothing compared to the riding satisfaction ... so far acceptable...
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Same. Sat in a traffic jam for 30 minutes last Sunday in about 100 degree temperatures... Was thinking about riding again that evening.
 
I think a lot of it may have to do with what you are acclimated to as well.

Here in Houston, it is 90+ and very humid much of the year, so while the PV4 is hot, it didn't bother me commuting much.
Those used to more temperate climates may notice the heat more.
 
I had replaced the exhaust with a Termi D170 which exits under the seat and was hoping that the removal of the loop under the seat would help the heat issue and after over 400 miles last weekend I can confirm that it does. The
heat is a non issue at this point conservatively reduced by over 50% now not unlike many other bikes. Fwiw this Termi is not the only pipe that removes the loop so I believe there are options out there. I know mine is a twin but for you V4's
I'd explore similar options
 

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pretty sure the rear cylinder heads are what people are feeling... the loop heat shield seems to work really well
 
CSV4 In the case of my 959 you would think but myself and friends have ridden it before and after and all agreed the reduction in heat is significant
 
I put some shielding on the subframe and the underside of the fuel tank. Also the on the exhaust shield area that the factory didn't do. It made a noticeable difference. Especially when cruising!
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