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So true. No track related improvement from the 959. All street related and bling.
Notwithstanding the SSSA which is nice to work with, the LED headlights and the display are big improvements.
Just dreaming of the day when these bikes come factory with adjustable rear-sets and triple clamp offset. A track GPS antenna would be nice and not that expensive to add.
 
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Even the 100K SL comes with the same .... rear sets. If I get the V2 it will be for the electronics which for a 150 hp bike are maybe not as needed as a 200hp v4... we will see
 
Increase closed loop fueling. And i dunno why ive never seen anyone wrap the underside of their seat with gold foil wrap, but it helps.
 
isnt it amazing how we look at bikes with 150-160hp and almost yawn? Lol. Like, thats still fast as .... hahahaha
Yeah I mean Have never ridden a liter bike so I only know what I see on track. I personally dont really have any interest in one. The problem is financially on the 959 / V2 platform it starts to very little sense very quickly.
 
also we have fully hijakced this thread but since it is about ENGINE HEAT on a DUCATI, its like who cares.
 
Yeah I mean Have never ridden a liter bike so I only know what I see on track. I personally dont really have any interest in one. The problem is financially on the 959 / V2 platform it starts to very little sense very quickly.

rr people told me that about rr vs v4.cost etc. dont get me wrong, i have a GS and love it. But ducati’s are built way nicer. places where my bike is cheap plastic ...., ducatis have aluminum magnesium and carbon fiber. If speed is all you care about fine, but its also a bit of the old “id never buy a M3 when i could buy a civic and 40k and engine mods”. The only people who say that are the ones that cant afford the M3 and/or never driven one. Nice .... costs money for a reason. Shrug
 
I am not talking about any other brand. I probably have V4R money in my 959. It makes zero sense performance wise but I like the middleweight platform. I can go out in the track and focus on my form and pace with out thinking about hanging in for dear life. I know I will make the jump eventually I am just not there yet.


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I am not talking about any other brand. I probably have V4R money in my 959. It makes zero sense performance wise but I like the middleweight platform. I can go out in the track and focus on my form and pace with out thinking about hanging in for dear life. I know I will make the jump eventually I am just not there yet.


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ride what you like. Never try to rationalize what is an emotional decision in the first place. If it wasnt a 916 anniversary, i would go with a smaller engine.
 
also we have fully hijakced this thread but since it is about ENGINE HEAT on a DUCATI, its like who cares.
No worries. This thread has been around the block and the topic around the universe. Nothing more to add that hasn't been nailed down.
Fear not because some new guy will start another thread with something like:
Is it just me or do you guys find this bike hot? Any solutions?
 
Increase closed loop fueling. And i dunno why ive never seen anyone wrap the underside of their seat with gold foil wrap, but it helps.

I tried a few years ago doing that and made no difference
I also tried a coolant additive called McCool, that some guy on here swore on his mother’s grave worked
Same thing, it made no difference

IMHO the only thing that works is airflow or modifying the coolant system eg bigger radiators
 
I tried a few years ago doing that and made no difference
I also tried a coolant additive called McCool, that some guy on here swore on his mother’s grave worked
Same thing, it made no difference

IMHO the only thing that works is airflow or modifying the coolant system eg bigger radiators

if dropping engine temp via increased fueling and gold wrap under the seat dont work, then i dunno what to tell you. Bigger radiators wont fix weak genetics.
 
if dropping engine temp via increased fueling and gold wrap under the seat dont work, then i dunno what to tell you. Bigger radiators wont fix weak genetics.

i wonder, might it even increase felt radiated heat do to being a more efficient "radiator"?
 
if dropping engine temp via increased fueling and gold wrap under the seat dont work, then i dunno what to tell you. Bigger radiators wont fix weak genetics.

My comment was directed at the gold foil bit under the seat in your post. I tried it just to see if it made any difference. If heat was coming up through the seat though it would burn your buttocks rather than your leg. Remember that I should caveat my comments with, my only experience is with the 1199. I have never ridden a V4 Panigale. (I would like to :) )

In relation to radiators, I am talking about things like Mac etc that build essentially bigger radiators that lower the operating temps of the engine. I am not sure what you mean by "weak genetics". I assume you are talking about the basic design of the bike. It is well understood that the engines lose power when they get hot so the guys on here that race their bikes sometimes put bigger radiators on to reduce heat and associated power loss. (Reference energy-losses) You can google heaps on the thermodynamic subject) There was a guy on here called Wilkson that raced panigales and he tried different radiators with good results. I know there is one mob that just do the upper radiator, I have thought about fitting that.

I cannot comment on ceramic coating as I have never done it. In the past it was a big topic on here and some swore by it and solved all their problems and others posted it made no difference. I decided based on their feedback not to try it. Wrapping fireproof materiel around pipes is another way people have tried to stop the heat, again some say its good and others took it off again. It looks terrible IMHO and must be a ..... to keep clean.

Again in my humble opinion based on my own experience with the 1199 and reading other peoples comments about this subject for a few years now on this forum there are only 4 ways to reduce heat effects on these bikes.

1. Shield yourself against the heat when riding with protective clothing. (That is my simple solution)

2. Modify the manufacturers cooling system, which comprises the fan, the radiators (water and oil), the activation of the fan temps (the fan comes on at 103 deg C Note below), and the thermostat.

3. Modify airflow around the engine. Try taking off the side fairings and go for a ride. You will see a 10 to 15 deg C drop in temps easily. (I found this out when fitting my Akra back in Sept 2014 and took it for a test to make sure there was nothing wrong before refitting the fairings. PIC below)

4. Contain/shield the heat from the engine and exhaust from the environment. The cylinder head covers, ceramic coating and wrapping exhausts are examples of this. (The headers on my old Ducati are double walled but they still discolour from heat.)

NB The fan comes on at 103 deg C. Some tuners like Tuneboy can change that. The reason it is set so high by Ducati is to evaporate out any moisture crankcase. On my bike the fan is set to come on the first time at 103 C after start up then I think at 85 the second time it comes on.



For me, I do not commute on this bike. The real home for the Panigale is the track and it does a beautiful job at that. IMHO :)
 
For me, I do not commute on this bike. The real home for the Panigale is the track and it does a beautiful job at that. IMHO :)

Exactly and I don't get tired of reading this comment 1001'th times.
The Panigale (any model) is a terrible street bike. Conversely, it's an admirable track bike.
 
700kms yesterday says it is an excellent street bike as well.
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Having a 6 hours ride on a Panigale (which I've done many times) does not make it a good street bike.
The Pani is hot as hell in traffic,
Handles like sh!t at urban speeds,
It has a hard suspension unable to soak-up street imperfections,
Mirrors buzz more than a hive,
It's louder than the 1812th overture,
It wont carry a passenger larger than a masochistic super-model and simultaneously can't carry any luggage larger than dental floss which she's probably wearing as undergarment,
Other than the above, it's a great street bike.
It's all relative.
 
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lol. i am trying to figure out a way to perk some coffee out of it. the bike not the super-model.
 
Having a 6 hours ride on a Panigale (which I've done many times) does not make it a good street bike.
It's all relative.
It's not the kms that made it a good streetbike. It's the smiles during those kms :)
Yes, I agree it is all relative and it is no where near the street/touring bike of say a 1290GT. BUT, I really do enjoy riding the V4 on the street and I'm putting way more miles on it than I thought I would.
 

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