Honda CBR1000RR-R SP 2024 vs V4R 2023

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spooky said:
Socialists are really good at spending other people’s money.
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Socialism is for the rich and capitalism is for the poor, never seen a big company or a bank refuse a taxpayer bailout yet. Buffet pays less tax than his secretary...Trumpster paid 750 bucks one year despite remaining a multi billionaire- how does that work? In other words no one knows what socialism , capitalism or democracy means these days, they are just buzzwords the tribe you belong to uses to further their version of the idiocracy in the hope they will be better off
 
Politics aside, I was on the fence wt the latest version of the RR-R SP vs my current ‘24 V4S.
Here in the States, the amount of de restriction needed on the Blade, isn’t worth it for me.
 
baggerman said:
The basic problem that everyone's seemed to miss was that the Dobbs decision reversing the national right to an abortion was the first time in US history where a personal right has been taken away. We're on the backside we need to be careful. The stuffing of the supreme court was never actually about Dobbs. It was about the creation of a conservative court that will consistently vote against personal rights versus the right/might of the corporations. Fat Donnie was just their tool. This will remain a problem in America for years. Go back and read Mussolini's speeches. Here we are. Those who never read history are bond to repeat it. I want no part of it. For enhancement of power and greed of an Australian, good old Rupert Murdoch, we may lose American democracy. Sad. As beautiful would say right about now "how about them LA Dodgers".
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Covid was a good test of taking personal rights away. It’s happening more and more. All for the greater good of course. 👍
 
baggerman said:
The basic problem that everyone's seemed to miss was that the Dobbs decision reversing the national right to an abortion was the first time in US history where a personal right has been taken away. We're on the backside we need to be careful. The stuffing of the supreme court was never actually about Dobbs. It was about the creation of a conservative court that will consistently vote against personal rights versus the right/might of the corporations. Fat Donnie was just their tool. This will remain a problem in America for years. Go back and read Mussolini's speeches. Here we are. Those who never read history are bond to repeat it. I want no part of it. For enhancement of power and greed of an Australian, good old Rupert Murdoch, we may lose American democracy. Sad. As beautiful would say right about now "how about them LA Dodgers".
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Just for accuracy, the USA is NOT a democracy. It is a Republic. There is quite a difference that the media and people are trying to forget. A democracy pure and simple is mob rule. The liberal idiots are so overcome by TDS that they can’t see the truth. I don’t like Trump personally, but Trump is a true patriot and is the exact type of person this country needs. I know most useful idiots only listen/watch the liberal government-run media outlets, but the truth won’t be heard/seen there. The real truth is not hidden, but you won’t find it on the tv news. Bye now.
 
SBK-SP said:
Trump is a true patriot and is the exact type of person this country needs.
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Hahahahaha you’re delusional. You think a convicted felon that was also found libel for sexual assault and defamation and owes $90M, that calls veterans losers, and that dodged the draft a “true patriot.” My ..... are more patriotic than Trump.
 
SBK-SP said:
Just for accuracy, the USA is NOT a democracy. It is a Republic. There is quite a difference that the media and people are trying to forget. A democracy pure and simple is mob rule. The liberal idiots are so overcome by TDS that they can’t see the truth. I don’t like Trump personally, but Trump is a true patriot and is the exact type of person this country needs. I know most useful idiots only listen/watch the liberal government-run media outlets, but the truth won’t be heard/seen there. The real truth is not hidden, but you won’t find it on the tv news. Bye now.
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This is neck and neck with member's posts about their bench racing championships and engineering for GP teams.
 
J D V 4 said:
Politics aside, I was on the fence wt the latest version of the RR-R SP vs my current ‘24 V4S.
Here in the States, the amount of de restriction needed on the Blade, isn’t worth it for me.
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Europe doesn’t get full power either, just more than the US bikes. With the HRC Race software you get 28 to 30 more HP without a single mod to the engine except de-catting the exhaust.
 
Steven31371 said:
Europe doesn’t get full power either, just more than the US bikes. With the HRC Race software you get 28 to 30 more HP without a single mod to the engine except de-catting the exhaust.
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That’s pretty amazing. Do you lose many display features wt the HRC software?
 
J D V 4 said:
That’s pretty amazing. Do you lose many display features wt the HRC software?
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Misspoke/wrote…HRC race ECU…which has its own software package that’s a lot more detailed than what comes OEM in terms of adjustment.

You do lose that pretty trick thing where you enter your bodyweight and it adjust the shocks automatically to you because you’re using manual adjustment suspension with the HRC race ECU
 
Steven31371 said:
Misspoke/wrote…HRC race ECU…which has its own software package that’s a lot more detailed than what comes OEM in terms of adjustment.

You do lose that pretty trick thing where you enter your bodyweight and it adjust the shocks automatically to you because you’re using manual adjustment suspension with the HRC race ECU
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Thankfully I’m very happy wt my Duc. Just out of curiosity, how much does that hrc ECU cost?
 
J D V 4 said:
Politics aside, I was on the fence wt the latest version of the RR-R SP vs my current ‘24 V4S.
Here in the States, the amount of de restriction needed on the Blade, isn’t worth it for me.
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spooky said:
Fortunately we don’t have them restricted so much here.
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Which restrictions are you both talking about?

It's obvious that you would need the HRC harness but I think that 5k-ish is actually a pretty good deal! As far as I understand, to get to that point (superstock Spec) with a Panigale you'd need to have an Italian Mototronic guy sitting at your lab or do I miss something?
 
spooky said:
The US bikes get a slightly detuned bike compared to the EU. Quoted power is lower for the bikes in the US compared to the EU.

I thought that was quite well known?
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so is the Panigale and many other bikes. than you just get a tune and thats it. based on the comment "and all the restrictions.." i thought there is more to it
 
Another option that didn’t work very well on the Ducatis might work well on the Hondas if you want the power unlocked without getting rid of the Ohlin 3.0 suspension electronics is Woolich.

Their stuff for Ducati was ...., but for the Japanese bikes is supposed to be fairly well sorted.
 
SBK-SP said:
Just for accuracy, the USA is NOT a democracy. It is a Republic. There is quite a difference that the media and people are trying to forget. A democracy pure and simple is mob rule. The liberal idiots are so overcome by TDS that they can’t see the truth. I don’t like Trump personally, but Trump is a true patriot and is the exact type of person this country needs. I know most useful idiots only listen/watch the liberal government-run media outlets, but the truth won’t be heard/seen there. The real truth is not hidden, but you won’t find it on the tv news. Bye now.
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Fat Donnie is coward and a bully. A narcistic sociopath. His entire whitehouse staff has called him unfit to serve. This draft dodging coward had the gall to insult John McCain a true american hero. I may not have always agreed with MCain but I never doubted his patriotism. Fat Donnie's father bribed some doctor to falsify medical records to keep him out of the draft. The self proclaimed "stable genius" doesn't realize that during the vietnam draft there was an intellectual deferment based on the performance IQ test results of the test taken during the draft physical. Individuals above a certain number (probably about two std dev's above normal) were given 1Y status (called up only if we are fighting on american soil). It was a thing about not killing our best and brightest in the further pursuit of oil politics. He obviously wasn't one. Loses $471 million from dad. Goes bankrupt 6 times. Stiffed so many US and British banks that they refuse to loan him money. Forcing him to go to the russians and saudi's for loans as his son Eric told some friends while golfing. Only US president to ever be in the room with a foreign adversary without any other american in the room (Putin several times). Steals secret documents to sell to the highest bidder because he has big loans coming due. And obviously has onset dementia. The iranians put a hit out on him. And he knows it. Yeah, let's give him the nuclear codes.
 

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