How good is the Ohlins EC 2.0?

endodoc said:

Interesting so you started in a 959 Corse then rode the V4S and you’re off to the races. That you are having a blast on the V4S I’m sure has reassured conference in your decision. You said that 1/2 the reason you choose the bike was the active suspension. Can you go into some of the mechanical nuances that would cause someone to validate the purchase of an active suspension bike vs an identical bike with a manual suspension that was set up properly (as your e suspension should have been as well) just wondering if you had the identical bike with say the FGR forks and TTX shock if the smile on your face would be comparable to where it is now.

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Your bating response is classic internet dribble. But, I will bite...

I'm very new to track riding, and very conservative in my approach on exploring and learning new things. I can promise you that I didn't "go off to the races." I have no desire to race. My competitive days are long gone. I enjoy riding when I get off of work (just rode around Lake Travis tonight,) and am totally honored to live in the same city as Circuit of the Americas. I wanted a bike that would do both things for me but mainly take away my thoughts of a long-hard day of work, and then run it around the little track of COTA every now and then. So, I've defined my needs and my goals. They may not be what anyone else wants.

I had my 959 Corse suspension set up for me at a COTA track day (the guy at on road off road). Rode that about 8 days at COTA and all across central Texas during the lockdown and most of 2020. So fun, but when I rode the V4 I decided that it was better for me... Just seemed to float on my test ride. It fit me better. I liked it better. I have the means to buy it, and I did. Had the same guy (wish I could remember his name) setup my suspension. He customized the dynamic settings and the static settings.

I was a professional ski instructor for 7 years, and I get the idea of specific equipment fulfilling specific needs, and that a "hybrid" approach is really not the best at either direction. The active suspension may JUST be a "hybrid" solution.However, my attitude has changed on this immensely as I've become older. What matters is having fun, and I am able to do it around Lake Travis and the few days I've experienced on COTA. Would I have the same "experience" with out the active suspension? Probably, but it is so fun when it just floats..... (Ducati isn't dumb. They know their buying market.)

So, back to my original statement: this is kind of a dumb discussion when everyone's needs are different. We just are riding the same "platform" of a bike.

Wasn’t trying to bate you into anything. I asked you a question and you answered it pretty clearly.

We need Vesparacer and GunMoto in here to voice there opinions.

tehrlich said:

... Had the same guy (wish I could remember his name) setup my suspension...

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Roger Albert

craig bush said:

Roger Albert

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Yes! Thanks! He was so helpful and nice.

Well apparently Ohlins EC 2.0 and V4S platform itself are pretty good in stock form

Nothing wrong with the EC 2.0. I see a professional rider on a bike that the Ducati factory sponsored, set up, and prepped with no mention of the suspension being active at all (DEC turned off, manually set up).

Yep just a reminder to everyone the electronic suspension is a sales gimmick. Waiting for the electronic adjustable wings to come next more .... for the fan boy club.

Mick1976 said:

Yep just a reminder to everyone the electronic suspension is a sales gimmick. Waiting for the electronic adjustable wings to come next more .... for the fan boy club.

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I was skeptical myself, but Salvadori doing a lap record on a stock V4S with few tweaks is quite hard data.


To V4S owners when you switch off DEC, is there any Dash warning visible to say its switched off ? we can easily verify this.

panibadboy said:

I was skeptical myself, but Salvadori doing a lap record on a stock V4S with few tweaks is quite hard data.


To V4S owners when you switch off DEC, is there any Dash warning visible to say its switched off ? we can easily verify this.

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No you would have to see it in the settings menu.

Skepticisms isn’t the issue. How is this dog and pony show relevant to all but a handful of people. The guy set a lap record on a Factory prepped bike and it was a promotional video (with a sales pitch for aftermarket parts) to demonstrate what a factory rider could do with a factory prepped bike.

I completely fail to see any relevance first to the context of the thread which was DEC and secondly, this is a clear demonstration “slightly rigged or not” of what the “equipment” is capable on not what 97% of the people who buy these things will ever see so, much like Ford and Dodge street racing and doing doughnuts in their commercials to sell cars, this is yet another “brand” commercial that is completely discontinued from the reality of its audience.

It’s like sitting on the couch wearing a football jersey with another guys name on it and exclaiming “we won” after the game.

endodoc said:

Skepticisms isn’t the issue. How is this dog and pony show relevant to all but a handful of people. The guy set a lap record on a Factory prepped bike and it was a promotional video (with a sales pitch for aftermarket parts) to demonstrate what a factory rider could do with a factory prepped bike.

I completely fail to see any relevance first to the context of the thread which was DEC and secondly, this is a clear demonstration “slightly rigged or not” of what the “equipment” is capable on not what 97% of the people who buy these things will ever see so, much like Ford and Dodge street racing and doing doughnuts in their commercials to sell cars, this is yet another “brand” commercial that is completely discontinued from the reality of its audience.

It’s like sitting on the couch wearing a football jersey with another guys name on it and exclaiming “we won” after the game.

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hey mate, give it a try to understand the subtitles in video.

he specifically said which mods were made to the bike. There was no such thing as "factory" prepped.

I agree watched it a couple of times and did not hear factory prepped. I would like to know where the telemetry they are using and stated was available from Ducat's site can be found. It would be nice if they did give a little detail on suspension setup (DEC or Static) and did they change heights or springs.

Are you kidding me? Who set up the bike? I guess the guys wear Ducati uniforms were fans dressed up for the day?

endodoc said:

Are you kidding me? Who set up the bike? I guess the guys wear Ducati uniforms were fans dressed up for the day?

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setup what exactly mate ? 4 menus in the settings ? he goes over that in the video.

I give up. The fanboy garbage is at an all time high. It’s a sales and marketing video from Ducati. You have no idea what they did to that bike. Ducati built it, delivered it, prepped it and put a rider on it.

endodoc said:

I give up. The fanboy garbage is at an all time high. It’s a sales and marketing video from Ducati. You have no idea what they did to that bike. Ducati built it, delivered it, prepped it and put a rider on it.

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you have to unscrew your head from the behind, watch Salvadori video, watch Redding's video and use the brain a bit.

I met Redding few times at Jerez, he doesnt have a factory team with him, just 1 mechanic which he pays out of his pocket as I understand. Yet he makes near WSBK times on V4S as well.

Dude your a nightmare, Scott Redding has a full time Ducati factory sponsored SBK effort. Someone want to chime in here?

endodoc said:

Dude your a nightmare, Scott Redding has a full time Ducati factory sponsored SBK effort. Someone want to chime in here?

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No mate, during the winters he is not allowed to bring Ducati factory with him so he runs V4S and his school and offers tuition for 1000 euros.

This is how he did that fast lap at Valencia.

Yea and take JR and give him the same scenario with the ZX-10 R and you will have similar results. What’s the point? That factory riders can go fast on relatively stock bikes? Who cares, what’s that fo to do with anyone here? Nothing.

If you really want to bring it down to street level, how many guys are winning in CCS and WERA using the V4 platform. Someone who races want to chime in? To me it looks all Kawasaki and Yamaha. Where are all these fast V4s at the club levels?