I must be getting Old

steveved said:

But I just cannot wrap my head around exhaust pricing nowadays.

I mean $4k for slipons, nearly $5k for a complete system.

And for Asian bikes, they are $1000 for anything other than Akro. An Akro for them is just over $2k.

I remember buying a complete Kerker system from the heads to the muffler for my 600 Hurricane back in 1987. I paid $200 for the whole system.

In 1994, I bought a complete 2 brothers system for my CBR900RR for $500

I get that our bikes are 1.5 times the cost of a CBR1000RR. But 2.5x the cost of the exhaust seems like highway robbery in my book.

Ok, rant over.

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steveved said:

But I just cannot wrap my head around exhaust pricing nowadays.



I mean $4k for slipons, nearly $5k for a complete system.



And for Asian bikes, they are $1000 for anything other than Akro. An Akro for them is just over $2k.



I remember buying a complete Kerker system from the heads to the muffler for my 600 Hurricane back in 1987. I paid $200 for the whole system.



In 1994, I bought a complete 2 brothers system for my CBR900RR for $500



I get that our bikes are 1.5 times the cost of a CBR1000RR. But 2.5x the cost of the exhaust seems like highway robbery in my book.



Ok, rant over.

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double0 said:

What some of you don't realize is not every purchase people make has to make any financial sense. Not to them (myself included) and not to anyone else either. I have close to $15k in mods on my base and I don't ride aggressively or push the limits and will never in its life of ownership take it anywhere near the track. Most will see it as a waste of money. Some will see it for what it is....an owner catering to one of his hobbies.

It doesn't matter if a part costs $10 or $1000. We don't decide the cost of an item but if it's something we want that will in turn bring us temporary joy at the time of purchase as well as an ongoing grin everytime you step back n stare at your creation, then every last dollar is well spent n worth it....to the buyer, which is all that matters in the end.

I don't social network so there's instagram or facebook photos of my bike. I also don't go to local meets or any other get togethers like starbucks n show off bikes. To me, while I could have had a brand new 899 as a track bike (in mods), it would have been far less enjoyable since i get a kick out of the transformation process itself. The end result isn't as rewarding. If u have the funds, it's only money. .... comes n goes. Why not spend it on something that brings a cheesy grin on your face every time?

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Grayson said:

This has been noted time and time again. The OP is correct though. Akrapovic's pricing makes no sense what so ever.

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BROsiah said:

^ What he said. I mean Ducati in general is over priced.
I know i will get blast for this but......look at say a Pani R and a RSV4 factory.
Both have carbon stuff,ohlins,forged wheels...blah blah traction control,abs and so on but the Aprilla is what? 12K cheaper?

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Charliem90 said:

Sure it does.

Ducati made and sold ~4k units of 1199's in 2014. That's *worldwide*. All models of 1199. How many of those do you think are legitimate potential customers willing to step up and lay down cash? 5%.....maybe? So if your legitimate market potential is 200 units, you're going to have to fix a price that will cover NRE, tooling and production costs, materials for a system that's a bit more complicated to make than a straight header and oval exhaust. And without any guarantees you're going to actually meet your sales target.

You want cheap exhaust systems from Akro? Buy a bike that they amortize costs over thousands of units sold. Honda alone sold over 10 million units in 2014 (to Ducatis 45k).

There's a reason aftermarket exhausts are expensive for Ducs and cheap(er) for Japanese machines.[

It is a low volume //hi revenue model for sure!!!
But I'd be willing to wager they could achieve higher market penetration with revised pricing.. Especially considering the pain has outsold all previous superbike

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speedy14 said:

Cause it isn't a Ducati!

Why does a Rolex cost more than a Tag Heuer ? Both are fine watches. It always come down to this. The manufacturers will charge what the market will bear..

Ducati is like the Ferrari of motorcycles
The MV Agusta is the Lamborghini of bikes
and the Aprillia is the Maserati

All are fine bikes. All have their fans. All are fast and Italian.

All are expensive compared to the Japanese bikes. All are lusted after and all will provide plenty of thrills..

Pick your flavor.. Pay the man for the one you want want
and go out and ride and enjoy.. life is short
Do what gives you joy and quickens your heart and sings to your soul..

Speedy

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Charliem90 said:

Sure it does.

Ducati made and sold ~4k units of 1199's in 2014. That's *worldwide*. All models of 1199. How many of those do you think are legitimate potential customers willing to step up and lay down cash? 5%.....maybe? So if your legitimate market potential is 200 units, you're going to have to fix a price that will cover NRE, tooling and production costs, materials for a system that's a bit more complicated to make than a straight header and oval exhaust. And without any guarantees you're going to actually meet your sales target.

You want cheap exhaust systems from Akro? Buy a bike that they amortize costs over thousands of units sold. Honda alone sold over 10 million units in 2014 (to Ducatis 45k).

There's a reason aftermarket exhausts are expensive for Ducs and cheap(er) for Japanese machines.

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