Leaking coolant from the back of engine

Yeah some are just way late to the party what a mess this place has gotten.

Okay, I'm looking for a replacement motor. Question but mine is 2012 1199 so will all 2012 to 2014 fit and work? Any major changes in those year or models I should be careful of when trying to find the replacement engine?

I'm a bit surprised you're going down this route. Another engine could be better or worse than what you have. If its out of the bike you won't even hear it running. At the moment you should have reasonable confidence in what you have. Aside from the leak is there any other issue with the motor?

Even if you got someone else to do the work it would be considerably cheaper than a new motor.

I would put a 1299 in it : )

There is a guy here that has a great tune for stock 1299 but not certain with which exhaust

@vcyclenut

All 12-14 1199 for simple swap yeah

What would you give for 14R motor w 7k miles?

Okay. I know there was the S and R versions so just checking if those models has any differences in the motor or was it just other stuff like the S with the electronic adjustments for the suspension? On the 1299 models that can in 2015 are you guys saying those bolt right up also (does front and rear mounting points and electronics still work)? Just getting all options an as I go through this process so appreciate the input...

First, a “running, tested” 1299 is going to cost considerably more than an 1199. The 1299 also requires different swing arm mounts as the engine cases are different and now your recommending a tune for it that requires the guy to buy a new exhaust. Top notch advice right there.

A better set of questions would be:
1 what do you have for a budget?
2 what do you have for skill sets
3 what do you have for resources (tools,help etc)
4 have you done the math to determine if it’s worth fixing as opposed to selling and getting another bike?

If you are going to swap the motor, buy it from a reputable salvage shop that will take it back if it’s not as advertised and stick with the motor it came with to avoid further complications. Keep in mind that the new motor # will now not match the bike so there may be something involved there as well.

Few answers to help given more context....I have been wrenching for 20+ years but only on the side as a very limited hobby but I would say I have a full assortment of basic mechanic tools and space in my garage (no special Ducati tools though). I've been working on bikes limited past 10 years but mostly Japanese (built 4 Suzuki GSXR's and 1 Kawasaki ZX10R). Few engine swaps a couple of engine builds but from what I understand the Ducati engine is much more complicated then a Suzuki so it has me a little scared =( The budget is my biggest problem as I just got the bike and that was my budget so I am trying to find the most economical solution here as don't want to go into debt for this. I have researched have the case replaced through Ducati dealer but that is cost prohibitive, even they recommended me getting a used motor and putting it in (they offered to do it for 2200 to 3000 but I would be comfortable doing an engine swap myself). I've found decent low mileage engines for $3k from yard that give a basic 30 day warranty. With all that being said before I buy another motor I will certainly disassemble the current motor to see if A) it's just head gasket and my initial diagnosis is incorrect B) it's something less then a complete rebuild for bad case or seal. So I'm try to get all the facts so I know my best options but I hope this gives more clarification as I am just new to the Ducati world. Last the question about the 1299 was more my curiosity to understand what else fit's just in case I find something when looking for a replacement; it's always nice to know what parts are compatible, I was reading the 1299 big difference was the bore diameter but it had the same outer dimensions (used steel sleeves vs. 1199 aluminum). My plan will be to start a methodical disassembly hoping I can repair but I'm also going to look for a decent replacement in case i need it. With these I see there is a base model, S model, and R model so trying to see if that made any difference for the engine. I see the R looks like few internal modes for higher rpm.

Ha ok good plan, yes a new case from Duc is close to 5k .Sounds like your skill sets should be more than adequate for a general motor swap. The Duc is fairly easy in that regard. You will be able to do a general swap without specialty tool.

You should also be able to get to the head gaskets without specialty tools although some of the specialty pieces make this job a bit more convenient. Just follow the procedures in the manual (it’s online) past the heads and into the case, you’re going to need to dig a bit deeper into the tool box.

You will have the most versatility and most economical solution sticking with the standard 1199. Some salvage places ask more for a motor off of an S bike thinking the buyer will pay more, there is no “S” motor so don’t get caught up in that. R motor is not worth discussion for obvious and practical reasons.

Awesome and that's what I needed to know. I'll start the year tear down soon and will update! Thank you all as I'm sure I'll have a few more questions along the way!

The swing arm pivots can be had for $50 ea from imperial

Why wouldn’t his electronics work?

12-14 all have 12.5:1 compression and same dimensions inside n out. The only difference is the R has lighter parts inside which include Ti rods. Those alone are expensive upgrade

Don, go back to bed man.He’s on a budget and he is looking for the most simplistic, cost effective and realistic solution. Ones not the time to go into “Frankenbike” mode and steer him into situation he doesn’t need to be in. Maybe get your “thing” running and vetted then come back and we can see where we’re at.

The thing has a name. She is LIL SICK : )




What all would one need to change to use a late model motor with a early model bike?

Other than the 2 brackets what else is different?

Frames and swing arms are all the same throughout the bikes lineage. Only consideration is a swap from a 1299 to 1199 case or vice versa in which case you need to swap the swingarm/rear set mounts.

And “Frankenbike” has a name. Of course it does.

So you get a couple brackets from imperial cycle

What about the gear position sensor?

Phil said he had to make a bracket for that putting 2018 wsbk motor in 2012 bike

Don’t know what Phil is referring to and what’s the point. You don’t have a 2018 SBK motor and it isn’t any part of the subject of this conversation

So for the engine troubleshooting how does the below sound... anything else you would add or remove in the sequence?

Additional Investigation plan:
Remove exhaust and subframe, inspect seam & casing crack closer to see if anything more
If no then drain oil to see if coolant in oil
If no then remove gas tank and inspect spark plugs and cylinders for wet / coolant
If no do a leakdown test to see if any leakage above normal range (what's normal for these)
If nothing then would I pull the rear head and inspect gasket and coolant passages around cylinder liner
If nothing...remove motor and split casing?

Don14R said:

So you get a couple brackets from imperial cycle

What about the gear position sensor?

Phil said he had to make a bracket for that putting 2018 wsbk motor in 2012 bike

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Nice X-Mass lights!