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The point is that GP is next level compared to WSBK, the best WSBK riders would be mid-field in GP if they were lucky…

It’s easy to overlook the fact that most gp riders are mid-field finishers in gp. Being a gp winner is a pretty exclusive club.

Of course GP is next level compared to wsbk, the comparative investment (financial, intellectual, and physical) makes that clear - GP surpasses wsbk in all categories.

The assertion that wsbk riders are essentially farm team “scrubs” compared to GP riders seems unsupported though.

How many former gp riders are currently in wsbk, 6 - Bautista, Iannone, Gardner, Redding, Lecuona, and Sam Lowes? Of them, how many were gp winners - Iannone? How many are wsbk race winners - Bautista and Redding? And then, only on the Ducati iirc - on other bikes they’ve been less competitive. If the average skill disparity between gp riders and wsbk riders was so great, all the former gp riders should be regularly competing for wsbk race wins.

I think the more compelling data point might be lap times. How much faster is the average gp pole time compared to wsbk at the same track? If wsbk riders are scrubs compared to gp riders, then certainly the vastly more talented gp riders on vastly more expensive gp bikes must set pole times in other zip codes compared to wsbk - 10 or or 20 seconds faster maybe?
 
MotoGP allows carbon brakes and WSB got rid of them years ago. Plus MotoGP tires are grippier than the WSB ones. Those two factors alone are the major reasons that on the same track, MotoGP times are faster. The carbon brakes are a huge difference in stopping power and less rotational mass, and unsprung weight.
 
Jack Miller is a GP multi-race winner and wasn’t dominant when he did a couple races in ASBK in 21 and 22. Granted, his bike was probably hamstringing him (allegedly it was mostly stock).

I think if a GP rider like Marquez or Bagnaia jumped on a WSBK it would take them a few races for them to adapt to the machines and tires. Good racers are good racers no matter what series.

Moving from WSBK to GP is apple and oranges. Prototypes are fickle machines. Get the set up off and you’re miles off the pace. Production bikes are more ductile and “easier” to set up.
 
remember that in motogp, from 1st to 10th, it takes less than a second.
If you race, to loose 1 tenth a corner, is sooooooo easy ( tires, set-up, physical condition, mental condition, stress, etc ).
I would say that ONLY TIME WILL TELL US.
I am looking forward to seeing Toprak in motogp, as well as Bulega.
To win there ( means motogp ), will be ANOTHER LEVEL.
BTW, Acosta is on another level!
Everything else is just speculation.
 
WSBK has been amazing this season, mostly in part due to Toprak and BMW.
 
MotoGP, Marc Marquez: "The future is not clear, I would like an official motorcycle" : Crashes for the second race in a row , repeatedly smashes into the back of people and blames the bike - while a satellite bike wins almost every race and a rookie is 5 places ahead of him in the points. Yeah I'd hire him in a heartbeat.
 
Quartararo was later found to have broken the minimum tyre pressure rule and has been handed an eight-second time penalty-This drops Quartararo down to fifth and promotes Pedrosa to the podium. Pedrosa got third? I'm not a fan of this tire pressure thing, If I'm being honest I don't understand why it exists if someone would care to explain But I'm probably still going to hate it .. let em race for crying out loud.
 
I think lower tire pressure gives more contact area to the track

I understand that part , but too low would cause heat issues also . shouldn't everyone be allowed to optimize the correct pressure? especially since different bikes generate heat differently due to suspension setup and load distribution. In my mind it's like a saying you cannot run light or heavy springs air pressure in the suspension too? unless it's for safety I don't get it.
 
I think lower tire pressure gives more contact area to the track

There are already at the limit, if you go lower this can happen :


For two reasons. First, because Michelin implemented a minimum pressure for safety reasons, to prevent teams from going so lower that a tyre might collapse – an obvious PR nightmare. (And yet this has never happened, despite multiple riders winning races at below 1.88 bar since Michelin became MotoGP’s tyre supplier in 2016.)


https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/...sure-rule-is-a-disaster-for-the-championship/


Apparently front Michellins are bad but partly due to ever increasing Aero
 
MotoGP, Marc Marquez: "The future is not clear, I would like an official motorcycle" : Crashes for the second race in a row , repeatedly smashes into the back of people and blames the bike - while a satellite bike wins almost every race and a rookie is 5 places ahead of him in the points. Yeah I'd hire him in a heartbeat.
There were 15 crashes in the sprint and all because of random weepers that caught half the field out. last time MM crashed it was a brake issue due to the goat track otherwise known as COTA, and the time before that Pecco divebombed him. JM and PA are on full factory spec and factory supported bikes which are satellite in name only.


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There were 15 crashes in the sprint and all because of random weepers that caught half the field out. last time MM crashed it was a brake issue due to the goat track otherwise known as COTA, and the time before that Pecco divebombed him. JM and PA are on full factory spec and factory supported bikes which are satellite in name only.


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so the track caused a brake problem, when he crashes it's the track or the bike , when he does bad it's the bike and when he does good it's talent and skill. I forgot the rules.
 

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