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panibadboy said:
Totally identical with 1 key difference - Enea didn't make the corner, but Bagnaia did

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he says 70-30 in Aragon and nothing at Misano
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Alex had been overtaken on the outside and didn’t want to give up his position and Enea overtook on the inside. One was being overtaken and the other was doing the overtaking. I’m not sure how you view that as being identical.

Martin left a gap, last lap and a chance for victory, so he took it, albeit with a rather aggressive move. Martin did leave a gap though. Although he didn’t make the turn, I suspect this was due to contact rather than not being in control and unable to make the turn.
 
spooky said:
Looked to be on the very edge of the kerb and only drifted there as he looked over his shoulder at Martin. If he was over then it was not by much at all.
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its not the edge of the curb mate

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panibadboy said:
from 05:45

https://oxleybom.buzzsprout.com/2181509/episodes/15796294-misano-2024-redux-it-s-a-funny-old-world

Ambition move, but he didn't make the turn
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Because he looked over his shoulder to see what had happened to Martin after impact. He would have made the turn if he hadn’t lifted slightly and looked over his shoulder at that point.

It was a very forceful block pass and no doubt on the limits of being acceptable, but nothing we haven’t seen many times in the heat of battle in the last lap of a race.

Anyway, it’s not worth going around in circles about it.
 
spooky said:
Because he looked over his shoulder to see what had happened to Martin after impact. He would have made the turn if he hadn’t lifted slightly and looked over his shoulder at that point.

It was a very forceful block pass and no doubt on the limits of being acceptable, but nothing we haven’t seen many times in the heat of battle in the last lap of a race.

Anyway, it’s not worth going around in circles about it.
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I have really no words, because one rider touched the other one, and both riders went out of the track, and they didn't even put under investigation. So it [makes] no sense.

“Apart from the action, I'm a little bit worried, because the message they are sending to all of the riders is that you can do whatever you want,” Espargaro added.

“You can touch [another] rider, you can go out of the track, and this is a very dangerous announcement.

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1...=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1727099405
 
panibadboy said:
I have really no words, because one rider touched the other one, and both riders went out of the track, and they didn't even put under investigation. So it [makes] no sense.

“Apart from the action, I'm a little bit worried, because the message they are sending to all of the riders is that you can do whatever you want,” Espargaro added.

“You can touch [another] rider, you can go out of the track, and this is a very dangerous announcement.

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1...=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1727099405
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That’s his best friend… Jack Miller says something else. Everyone has an opinion…

They touched because they were both going for the same bit of track.

As I said, there’s really no point in going around and around in circles on this.
 
I'll stick with what I told beautiful at the beginning of the season, if there's not many rain races Jorge will win. If there's the normal amount of rain races Pecco will win. Let it rain. Marquez has phenomenal tire management skills, I'm thinking there's another championship yet.
 
baggerman said:
I'll stick with what I told beautiful at the beginning of the season, if there's not many rain races Jorge will win. If there's the normal amount of rain races Pecco will win. Let it rain. Marquez has phenomenal tire management skills, I'm thinking there's another championship yet.
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what you're saying makes no sense whatsoever old man.

both Pecco and Martin suck in rain.
 
spooky said:
I wonder if Martin is concerned about the move he is making.
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he has no choice, unfortunately no one is asking him anything as its business.

Pramac wants to receive money not spend money, hence Yamaha

Ducati is a business machine that needs to sell bikes not please 25 y.o. to win titles - its a by-product.
 
panibadboy said:
he has no choice, unfortunately no one is asking him anything as its business.

Pramac wants to receive money not spend money, hence Yamaha

Ducati is a business machine that needs to sell bikes not please 25 y.o. to win titles - it’s a by-product.
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Winning titles and selling bikes may well be somewhat linked. They obviously view it as important enough to spend vast amounts of money on.

It will be interesting to see if he is able to get better results on the Aprilia than the current riders.
 

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