MotoGP 2024

Macattack said:

mark marquez must have zero peripheral vision left from his head injuries .

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Pecco should be given points penalty. Such a dirty move

panibadboy said:

Pecco should be given points penalty. Such a dirty move

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Really. The stuff you world champion is Marquez. I loved the race in 2019? when he made a mistake saved it and then stuffed so many of those around him trying to get to the front I'm surprised they didn't black flag him. Who did he stand up and force onto the paint in the first couple of laps?

panibadboy said:

Pecco should be given points penalty. Such a dirty move

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the snapback is pretty much standard for everyone . I could see it as a race incident possibly , but if anything mm ran wide and dove in after peco had the position. I honestly didn't anticipate anyone would have your take on the crash . interesting

Macattack said:

the snapback is pretty much standard for everyone . I could see it as a race incident possibly , but if anything mm ran wide and dove in after peco had the position. I honestly didn't anticipate anyone would have your take on the crash . interesting

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Watch MM interview on MotoGP, it's free.

Pecco is a сunt, he understands his tires are cooked and yet he chooses to run unreasonable line to offside MM.

Really bad for racing

Anyway, I hope Martin wins 2024

panibadboy said:

Watch MM interview on MotoGP, it's free.

Pecco is a diсk, he understands his tires are cooked and yet he chooses to run unreasonable line to offside MM.

Really bad for racing

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I think mm was off the racing line mgp videopass has a few different angles. made mm look like he was off line and cut back , but I think peco is not a dick and kept it classy while mm was pointing fingers and being a little baby as usual. we for sure see it differently at best its a racing incident , just seen mm do this way too many times. I'll keep my opinion and respect yours too.

Macattack said:

I think mm was off the racing line mgp videopass has a few different angles. made mm look like he was off line and cut back , but I think peco is not a .... and kept it classy while mm was pointing fingers and being a little baby as usual. we for sure see it differently at best its a racing incident , just seen mm do this way too many times. I'll keep my opinion and respect yours too.

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lol!, Watch the vid, its on Pecco. MM didnt own this one

Paul G said:

lol!, Watch the vid, its on Pecco. MM didnt own this one

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lol I did

Watching the post race interviews with PB and MM, I got the idea that Pecco just wanted to get out of there and be done with the weekend. I can't blame him. MM seemed more akin to try and smooth things over, perhaps to ingratiate himself to Ducati management. He did have a very good point though, they were fighting for 5th. Two points more or less, better not to finish in the gravel.

I can't stand the announcers fawning all over Acosta. I get it he's an emerging talent but Martin, who lead I think the entire race, barely got any camera time. Acosta only made it to the podium because of some one else's gearbox problem.

panibadboy said:

Watch MM interview on MotoGP, it's free.

Pecco is a сunt, he understands his tires are cooked and yet he chooses to run unreasonable line to offside MM.

Really bad for racing

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Guess what Pecco and the rest of the grid not scared nor do they give a .... about MM. Pecco was on the CORRECT line, MM went wide. Racing incident... But in the bigger picture it's important to show MM the new reality.

not only was mm off line at the end of the double apex turn but he passed by cutting the first part of the double apex which caused him to be out of the racing line at the second half of the double apex. it's clearly a racing incident as stated , but knowing and understanding from a racers point of view makes it kinda balzy to blame the guy who is actually fighting for the points lead for trying to keep points. especially when mm has only taken points away from the real points leaders for the past 5 years by crashing into the back of them.

bp_SFV4 said:

I can't stand the announcers fawning all over Acosta. I get it he's an emerging talent but Martin, who lead I think the entire race, barely got any camera time. Acosta only made it to the podium because of some one else's gearbox problem

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To be fair to the commentators, they get to commentate on what they see on the screen and they don’t choose what is on the screen.

In most races you can say someone got a position because somebody crashed.

It looked like a racing incident to me, although if you want to portion blame, Marquez could have lifted and gone wide.

MM is worse than Danica, always blaming other racers for crashes. Peco had the inside line, on a smooth arc…MM tightened up his line into Pecco and Pecco had no place to go. MM should go to Nascrap.

spooky said:

they don’t choose what is on the screen.

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I don't pretend to know how that works but I don't think anyone outside of the production company could state that with any certainty. I'd guess they are watching more than one camera view.

spooky said:

In most races you can say someone got a position because somebody crashed.

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Yeah but they don't get propped up like they are God's gift to riding. It could be a drinking game with how often they name drop Acosta.

bp_SFV4 said:

I don't pretend to know how that works but I don't think anyone outside of the production company could state that with any certainty. I'd guess they are watching more than one camera view.



Yeah but they don't get propped up like they are God's gift to riding. It could be a drinking game with how often they name drop Acosta.

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You might have noticed that they are sometimes talking about a person on screen and it immediately switches to someone else mid-sentence, which they wouldn't be doing if they had any control over what's on the live feed. Another example would be where someone has crashed but they are not sure what happened until the replay is shown to us. I expect they can see some other feeds these days - I think even we can do that through the MotoGP app, so I'd expect they have access to the same feeds concurrent with the live feed.

From a while ago (2020) but they talk about having one timing monitor and a (single) TV screen:

MotoGP 2020: ‘It’s definitely intense, seems like every race is Sepang 2015!’

I get what you are saying about Acosta but it would take some doing to say it's not a rather impressive start. So they get a bit over-excited, but he is certainly living up to the hype so far. It will be interesting to see what happens at the next track where tyre conservation is of extreme importance - I have a feeling he's a quick learner.

I liked the way he was mature enough to observe Pecco and try to learn from him mid-race. He seems exceptionally mature and self-aware - it took Martin far longer to gain some maturity and I might argue that Acosta already has more maturity than Martin.

Macattack said:

not only was mm off line at the end of the double apex turn but he passed by cutting the first part of the double apex which caused him to be out of the racing line at the second half of the double apex. it's clearly a racing incident as stated , but knowing and understanding from a racers point of view makes it kinda balzy to blame the guy who is actually fighting for the points lead for trying to keep points. especially when mm has only taken points away from the real points leaders for the past 5 years by crashing into the back of them.

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I watched this from both Pecco's camera and MM's and it's one of those like you said racing incident. But consider Pecco's on the inside heeled in, he hears Marquez but can't any longer see him. Marquez is outside and can see Pecco. Didn't have to happen. Marquez had time to get a clean pass done but as is so typical is impatient and takes someone with him.

MM did nothing wrong, its deemed a racing incident with no fault to attributed to either party but in my opinion Pecco put it in there and could not hold his line, we are talking 10-20 centimetres max but you have to appreciate they are both hanging off so far that the cant see sh|t so I dont blame Pecco either.

Paul G said:

MM did nothing wrong, its deemed a racing incident with no fault to attributed to either party but in my opinion Pecco put it in there and could not hold his line, we are talking 10-20 centimetres max but you have to appreciate they are both hanging off so far that the cant see sh|t so I dont blame Pecco either.

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Agreed. When you watch from behind, it looks to me like Marc maintained the wide line without a dramatic cutback, and Bagnaia was trying to push him wide (forcing him the long way round) and ran into him.

It also looks to me like Marc is surprised by the contact - not braced for impact as he likely would have been had he cut back hard (expecting possible contact). It seemed he intended to leave room and was surprised Bagnaia ran into him.

I also acknowledge this is just my impression of the incident and I can see how others might have a different impression.

I agree it was one of those. But why is MM involved in so many? At least Olivera got to finish this year.

baggerman said:

I agree it was one of those. But why is MM involved in so many? At least Olivera got to finish this year.

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Because part of racing is elbows out and intimidation, but specifically MM has been overriding the dog of a Honda for at least 3 years and that coupled with the absolute need to win the first lap if not corner to have any kind of chance has contributed to it. Last year after Sachsenring he changed and basically circulated accepting that he was a top ten finisher.