MWR Air Filter Service

Pretty Kin · Jan 1, 2014

How often do you guys that have installed the MWR HE Filter service it? I think I remember reading somewhere that it only needed to be cleaned once a year? I know the race filter has a much shorter service interval, but I was wondering how often most people are cleaning and re oiling their filters? I've had my in for about 1300 miles now and was just wondering when to think about ordering my service kit.

Prince Albert · Jan 1, 2014

IL Mostro can tell you

Brad · Jan 1, 2014

Hmm.
How long is a piece of string?

Since it's such a pain in the ass job to do, I would be inclined to do it at every 12000 Kms.
If at that interval it looks too dirty for my liking, then I would split it in half and close it up to every 6000 Kms. You might like to do your oil & oil filter change at the same intervals.

It all depends upon what the application is.
If one were racing then after every meeting would probably be appropriate.
If it's just normal riding under normal(not severe) conditions, then every 12000 Kms would most likely suffice.
If it's normal riding in the Middle East(severe) conditions, then every 1500 Kms may be "necessary".
Get the drift?

Cheers

RD16RR · Jan 2, 2014

Pretty Kin said:
How often do you guys that have installed the MWR HE Filter service it? I think I remember reading somewhere that it only needed to be cleaned once a year? I know the race filter has a much shorter service interval, but I was wondering how often most people are cleaning and re oiling their filters? I've had my in for about 1300 miles now and was just wondering when to think about ordering my service kit.

when it gets dirty

- kidding aside, you can feel when your air filter starts getting blocked....it will seem like some power is gone.....if you're unable to feel that, then another tell tale sign is you're filling your tank a wee bit more than usual - clean is always better than dirty, so checking it every now and then, while not very practical is the best way to know if it needs attention

the MWR filter is a high flow filter, so unfortunately more debris may find its way thru......"jus sayin" (i have 1 as well)

Brad · Jan 2, 2014

RD16RR said:
the MWR filter is a high flow filter, so unfortunately more debris may find its way thru......"jus sayin" (i have 1 as well)

Yes I agree.
I don't like that at all.
I would rather change the stock filter more often than let more dirt through AT ALL.

I wonder what the flow rates for the different filters actually are on the 1199 version?
I think there are currently 3 different filters on the market for them.

Marmoot · Jan 2, 2014

Hi, not going to contribute to this debate, but just want to say that I am just feeling a bit ironic, being an ex- 848 owner, where with 848 the OWM filter was the bad one with it letting lots of dust and dirt through due to bad seal against the ram air tubes / airbox. Changing to K&N or other filters cure the problem.

With Panigale it is the other way around, and the OEM filter is the good one.

Must've been Audi's German engineering?
(Darn....)

Brad · Jan 3, 2014

Marmoot said:
Hi, not going to contribute to this debate, but just want to say that I am just feeling a bit ironic, being an ex- 848 owner, where with 848 the OWM filter was the bad one with it letting lots of dust and dirt through due to bad seal against the ram air tubes / airbox. Changing to K&N or other filters cure the problem.

With Panigale it is the other way around, and the OEM filter is the good one.

Must've been Audi's German engineering?
(Darn....)

Would you believe me if I told you the 1199 was conceived, designed and brought to market entirely by the Italians well before the VAG buyout.
The Germans had absolutely nothing to do with it

I reckon that makes the 1199 the last of the great "Italian DUCATI superbikes"

Marmoot · Jan 3, 2014

Yes, you are right that the bike is purely Italian heritage. But i won't be surprised if the German engineering methodology has entered into the production line.

I've just never seen Ducati reacted to a bike design holes this fast before.

Within just one year we had refined heatshields, and free under warranty for sold bikes, even!
The 899 design received totally new seat design.
Oil sight hole on lower right fairing.
And things that plagued many previous ducatis up to 1098/1198/848 but were not carried over to 1199:
- exhaust valve linked to ECU error code.
- better footpegs position.
- melting headlight bulb connectors (not sure about you Base guys, though)

And let's not forget how big Audi is on LED technology. Panigale S/R does not have a single filament bulb on them. Coincidence?

Smells like a change in engineering tradition.

Brad · Jan 3, 2014

Marmoot said:
Yes, you are right that the bike is purely Italian heritage. But i won't be surprised if the German engineering methodology has entered into the production line.

I've just never seen Ducati reacted to a bike design holes this fast before.

Within just one year we had refined heatshields, and free under warranty for sold bikes, even!
The 899 design received totally new seat design.
Oil sight hole on lower right fairing.
And things that plagued many previous ducatis up to 1098/1198/848 but were not carried over to 1199:
- exhaust valve linked to ECU error code.
- better footpegs position.
- melting headlight bulb connectors (not sure about you Base guys, though)

And let's not forget how big Audi is on LED technology. Panigale S/R does not have a single filament bulb on them. Coincidence?

Smells like a change in engineering tradition.

Maybe you're right.
I will point out that LED lights were fitted to the front end of the Streetfighter well before the 1199 and VAG came along.
So it's not as if the technology wasn't coming down the pipeline.
Everybody in the whole world is big on LED's, and it's here to stay until something better comes along. Old lighting technology is literally obsolete as a result. it's not a matter of tradition, it's a new world order

I honestly consider it to be a logical and timely adoption/progression of the LED technology for any manufacturer.
Especially since the 1199 S was the flagship model with the LED's and the full colour TFT screen on the dash.

I honestly think this was woven into the DNA of the bike even before the Germans even thought about going shopping in Italy.

996racer · Jan 10, 2014

Marmoot said:
Hi, not going to contribute to this debate, but just want to say that I am just feeling a bit ironic, being an ex- 848 owner, where with 848 the OWM filter was the bad one with it letting lots of dust and dirt through due to bad seal against the ram air tubes / airbox. Changing to K&N or other filters cure the problem.

With Panigale it is the other way around, and the OEM filter is the good one.

Must've been Audi's German engineering?
(Darn....)

I disagree. Stock filter on my Pani was good untill in installed the MWE. MWE make a WORLD of difference re: mid-range torque.

However, after first time I rode in the wet, I noticed a small decline in output. I have not looked yet, but I bet it needs a cleaning to make best flow. I have had it on the bike for about 1000 miles. It is the street model.

PS MWE unit not only addressess gross flow, it also adressess flow differential between no. 1 and no. 2 cyl. via an aluminium back plate mounted approx. 3" from back of filter that slightly slows airflow to no.1. The resulting airflow balance allows the motor to achieve stoicastic (sp?) air/fuel in the lower rev range which results in more Lb/Ft2

Regards,

mark419ny · Jan 10, 2014

i have this and believe it is a very good upgrade that doesnt cost a ton of cash. to me the bike sounds better and doesnt run as rich. it could be my imagination but i think its worth it. do as you see fit.

i clean it as needed. it was only once this season but if i start to feel a lessor response i clean it. i got the materials to clean it from yamaha as k & n as well as the stuff from mwr was way more expensive.

Stw · Jan 10, 2014

I am getting the BMC tomorrow...Intrigued to see if it makes much/any difference...

Fragile · Jan 18, 2014

It's common in business to strive towards evolution, in this case, to meet buyout desirability. My guess is that Ducati was readying themselves for buyout during the development of the 1199, upping the ante by proving that they can engineer with an efficiency and flavor that is competitive to the highest modern standards. Without proving that, even if the company were in the green financially, would still be less desirable to the likes of Audi. The inverse is also a possibility, in that pushing the engineering and manufacturing envelope influenced a buyout situation.

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