Opinion: Rear sets for the SL

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Gecko said:
it's to theoretically protect pedestrians from getting hurt when driving into them.
and it's not the only stupid thing: mirrors must be folding, and even open dry clutch covers are not allowed anymore. If you get caught, you'll lose your license.
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How frivolous. The lawmakers there have way to much time on their hands and are also drunk on their power...
 
"I guess the choices are really either LighTech or DP. The LighTech actually look to be a superior (and more adjustable) product. Keeping it in the Ducati family for parts would be nice for irrational/sentimental reasons, but I'm not sure that's enough to sway it."..

^ +1 to above statement.
This is one thing I never really understood. Trying to totally outfit a bike with parts from the same company. As if it actually makes a difference on anything at all, like resale value or worth. When other reputable companies produce equal, or even superior, products at a MUCH more reasonable price why would one not go this route?
Always loved reading rationale about how this. lol.
 
Gecko said:
it's to theoretically protect pedestrians from getting hurt when driving into them.
and it's not the only stupid thing: mirrors must be folding, and even open dry clutch covers are not allowed anymore. If you get caught, you'll lose your license.

Someone on this forum already mentioned it before: I shall leave europe. too much lazy penpushers here!
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let me quote Goethe here:
Wer sich den Gesetzen nicht fügen will, muss die Gegend verlassen, wo sie gelten. ;)

I like fixed pegs for riding, but just this past weekend when i loaded the DUC into the trailer i rammed the right peg into my lower leg. still hurts as hell and brings up multiple colors... from red to yellow to purple...

but fixed, yeah of course.
 
:)
actually in german speaking countries the "D-word" is quite common, even by hard core ducatistis.
It's pronounced the same way as the 1st syllable of "Ducati".
Gunny: how do you pronounce it?
 
Gecko said:
DP are great, but replacing the steel bolts with Ti might become a never ending quest on the internet :)

the rearsets on the SL are not the same as on the other panigales. they are forged instead of being casted, and the bolts are made from Ti (at least that's what I have been told by the importer here).

So, it might be a good to first only replace the OEM pegs with grippier ones and checkout whether the DP reverse shift rod really doesn't fit.
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My dealer has seen one that was being used for training for specific Ducati's techs.... He said, I asked this question, as I thought it was weird that these would be stock & he said they make look similar, but they are ALL TI and feel different than stock....

I'd see how they are after you got the bike.....
 
yes!

Gecko said:
:)
actually in german speaking countries the "D-word" is quite common, even by hard core ducatistis.
It's pronounced the same way as the 1st syllable of "Ducati".
Gunny: how do you pronounce it?
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Yeah i think you mean it how I say it, DUCATI = DOO-CATI, right?

Just got flamed on another forum for bringing this issue up, and the other one about those who call their bikes "SHE" or "HER" as well. Hate it all. :D
 
Gunny Fitz said:
Yeah i think you mean it how I say it, DUCATI = DOO-CATI, right?

Just got flamed on another forum for bringing this issue up, and the other one about those who call their bikes "SHE" or "HER" as well. Hate it all. :D
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Oh there are rules for this sort of thing are they? Someone should write them up ala the way the road cyclists have:
Velominati ? The Rules
 
No rules. Actually there is not a right or wrong way to say things I guess either, another personal preference type of thing. I more often call mine a "Duke" but NEVER a Duc (DUCK) and have never referred to "IT" in the female sense. Its just something I don't do personally, but would not hold it against anyone if thats their thing. lol

I feel like doing a wheelie right now for some reason! :)
 
Gunny Fitz said:
"I guess the choices are really either LighTech or DP. The LighTech actually look to be a superior (and more adjustable) product. Keeping it in the Ducati family for parts would be nice for irrational/sentimental reasons, but I'm not sure that's enough to sway it."..

^ +1 to above statement.
This is one thing I never really understood. Trying to totally outfit a bike with parts from the same company. As if it actually makes a difference on anything at all, like resale value or worth. When other reputable companies produce equal, or even superior, products at a MUCH more reasonable price why would one not go this route?
Always loved reading rationale about how this. lol.
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Because you can very easily kill the value of the bike. It really depends on the bike and/or modification. . . The SL might fall into that category or might not. But there are quite a few collectible Ducati's that you either better have the original part or the original on there if you want to maintain resale value on the bike. . .
 
anthem said:
Because you can very easily kill the value of the bike. It really depends on the bike and/or modification. . . The SL might fall into that category or might not. But there are quite a few collectible Ducati's that you either better have the original part or the original on there if you want to maintain resale value on the bike. . .
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Interesting, when I was looking at buying a 1098R before the Pani came out, I preferred stock versions and still do. I think "bling" mods are the most capable of turning off a buyer, but a hard call. Just keeping the stock parts dosen't help if the pictures show the bling.

This may be a whole other thread mods! Hate to muddy up Scrapper's beautiful bike thread :)
 
Trauma said:
Interesting, when I was looking at buying a 1098R before the Pani came out, I preferred stock versions and still do. I think "bling" mods are the most capable of turning off a buyer, but a hard call. Just keeping the stock parts dosen't help if the pictures show the bling.

This may be a whole other thread mods! Hate to muddy up Scrapper's beautiful bike thread :)
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Exactly. If you're looking at a 1098R bayliss or something, and the bike has Ducabike rearsets and Leo Vince pipes, and some other brand clutch/baskets - are you going to be interested or will that bike have the same value ? On the other hand, if it had Ducati Performance and Termi pipes - you'd be fine with it and the value would be same or higher. This applies even more so to the more collectible bikes. . <now back to Scrappers regularly schedule programming>
 
Trauma said:
Interesting, when I was looking at buying a 1098R before the Pani came out, I preferred stock versions and still do. I think "bling" mods are the most capable of turning off a buyer, but a hard call. Just keeping the stock parts dosen't help if the pictures show the bling.

This may be a whole other thread mods! Hate to muddy up Scrapper's beautiful bike thread :)
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You're in luck, this isn't Scrapper's thread :)

I agree with both of your comments re: stock parts. My only counter to you both is that if you are changing it, it doesn't really matter whether you are changing it to Ducati brand parts or some other aftermarket - it is now clearly non-stock. Absolutely keep the originals for the purists, but I find it hard to believe those that want a bling-free or "super stock" bike would make exceptions to a wide swath of mods just because they also happened to be under the same banner.
 
I change stock with bling stuff. but I keep the original parts.
advantage: If I crash the bike, I can go back to original setup and throw away the scratched bling things that protected engine housing, fork, etc.
disadvantage: my basement is full of boxes with parts. and I completely lost control what is where.
 
Jello said:
You're in luck, this isn't Scrapper's thread :)

I agree with both of your comments re: stock parts. My only counter to you both is that if you are changing it, it doesn't really matter whether you are changing it to Ducati brand parts or some other aftermarket - it is now clearly non-stock. Absolutely keep the originals for the purists, but I find it hard to believe those that want a bling-free or "super stock" bike would make exceptions to a wide swath of mods just because they also happened to be under the same banner.
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ahh yes. we have threads confused..

Actually it does make a big difference in many cases. .. . If the bike becomes a collectible, having the same brand manufacturer pipes in lieu of (obviously having the original is fine) the original is acceptable. having 2nd off brand parts may not be.. . Give you a few examples -

Honda RC30 - it is worth more if you had the HRC titanium exhaust that was offered at the time, even if you don't have the original.

Ducati D16RR - if you have the Ducati GP7 exhaust - its worth more than the original stock bike. If not, the stock pipe is fine. If you have ANY other brand exhaust pipe (instead of the stock/race or GP7), the bike is worth SIGNIFICANTLY less.

But these are clear examples of an aftermarket item from the manufacturer that significantly alters the price and desirability of the bike. And yes, that would include those aftermarket pieces in lieu of (as in not having the stock) parts. Of course having both always helps.

There are numerous other examples - so yes, even changing to non-stock parts could play a huge factor in the future.

To expand it a bit further using a more common 1098r. If said person but DP sets and DP clutch/basket/cover on the bike and didn't have the originals, it wouldn't devalue it one bit in most peoples minds .. If they put a different set of rear set, or different clutch (even a good alternative clutch), people will either want the original or be off put by what they consider to be "non-OEM". For whatever reason, in many cases, the performance parts from the same manufacturer retain their "OEM"ness to the same extent that non-branded parts don't.
 
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Gecko said:
I change stock with bling stuff. but I keep the original parts.
advantage: If I crash the bike, I can go back to original setup and throw away the scratched bling things that protected engine housing, fork, etc.
disadvantage: my basement is full of boxes with parts. and I completely lost control what is where.
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In general I do the exact same thing (though hopefully I can stay disciplined with the SL and take the money I'd normally spend on mod'ing and put it towards a Super Duke or something)

My point is that it's either stock or it's not. Once you tread into non-stock territory (as I am wont to do) then the brand of parts matters little so long as the mods are inline with original intent (performance, looks, uniqueness, etc)
 

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