Order Cancelled... and it's all your fault!

Motodoc
916 - no mechanical issues - normal maintenance
696 - No issues
Multi Strada - no issues - same electronics and suspension

tstephenson said:

Motodoc
916 - no mechanical issues - normal maintenance
696 - No issues
Multi Strada - no issues - same electronics and suspension

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Same here

'03 999 - no issues
'06 999 - no issues
'06 999 - no issues
'11 1198 - no issues

no issues, no recalls

DUCENZO said:

Same here

'03 999 - no issues
'06 999 - no issues
'06 999 - no issues
'11 1198 - no issues

no issues, no recalls

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Not saying all models have had recalls. But incase you missed these:
NHTSA Campaign ID Number : 12V053
Manufacturer : DUCATI NORTH AMERICA
Make / Model Years : DUCATI / 2011-2012
Subject : FUEL LINE CRACK

Report Date : February 17, 2012 at 08:30 PM
NHTSA Campaign ID number : 12V053000


Vehicle Make / Model: Model Year(s):
DUCATI / HYPERMOTARD 1100 EVO 2012
DUCATI / HYPERMOTARD 1100 EVO SP 2011
DUCATI / HYPERMOTARD 796 2012
DUCATI / HYPERMOTARD1100EVO SP C 2012
DUCATI / MONSTER 1100 EVO 2012
DUCATI / MONSTER 696 2012
DUCATI / MONSTER 796 2012
Manufacturer: DUCATI NORTH AMERICA Mfr's Report Date: FEB 10, 2012
NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number: 12V053000 NHTSA Action Number: N/A
Component: FUEL SYSTEM, OTHER DELIVERY:HOSES, LINES/PIPING, AND FITTINGS
Potential Number of Units Affected: 913
Summary:
DUCATI IS RECALLING CERTAIN MODEL YEAR 2011-2012 HYPERMOTARD AND MONSTER MOTORCYCLES MANUFACTURED FROM JUNE 25, 2011, THROUGH NOVEMBER 30, 2011. THE FUEL LINES CONTAIN MICRO-CRACKING DUE TO INSUFFICIENT DRYING OF RAW MATERIALS PRIOR TO EXTRUSION.
Consequence:
THIS COULD CAUSE A FUEL LEAK, WHICH IN THE PRESENCE OF AN IGNITION SOURCE, MAY LEAD TO A FIRE AND INCREASED RISK OF PROPERTY DAMAGE OR PERSONAL INJURY.
Remedy:
DUCATI WILL NOTIFY OWNERS, AND DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE FUEL LINES FREE OF CHARGE. DUCATI HAS NOT YET PROVIDED THE AGENCY WITH AN OWNER NOTIFICATION SCHEDULE FOR THIS CAMPAIGN. OWNERS MAY CONTACT DUCATI AT 1-800-231-6696 OR GO TO THEIR WEBSITE AT WWW.DUCATI.COM.
Notes:
DUCATI'S SAFETY RECALL NUMBER IS RCL-12-001. CUSTOMERS MAY CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY: 1-800-424-9153);

MOTODOC

DUCENZO AND tstephenson, HERE'S ANOTHER ONE:
Vehicle Make / Model: Model Year(s):
DUCATI / MONSTER 1100 EVO 2011-2012

Manufacturer: DUCATI NORTH AMERICA Mfr's Report Date: FEB 23, 2012
NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number: 12V073000 N/A
NHTSA Action Number: N/A

Component: WHEELS:RIM
Potential Number of Units Affected: 892
Summary:
DUCATI IS RECALLING CERTAIN MODEL YEAR 2011-2012 MONSTER 1100 EVO MOTORCYCLES, MANUFACTURED FROM JANUARY 17, 2011, THROUGH JANUARY 24, 2012 AND EQUIPPED WITH REAR RIMS MARKED WITH CODE DU6-RR. OVER TIME, THE SPOKES ON THE REAR WHEEL RIM MAY DEVELOP CRACKS.
Consequence:
CRACKS MAY LEAD TO FAILURE OF THE REAR WHEEL RIM, INCREASING THE RISK OF A CRASH.
Remedy:
DUCATI WILL NOTIFY OWNERS, AND DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE REAR WHEEL RIM, FREE OF CHARGE. DUCATI HAS NOT YET PROVIDED THE AGENCY WITH AN OWNER NOTIFICATION SCHEDULE FOR THIS CAMPAIGN. OWNERS MAY CONTACT DUCATI AT 1-800-231-6696 OR GO TO THEIR WEBSITE AT WWW.DUCATI.COM.
Notes:
THIS IS DUCATI RECALL NUMBER RCL-12-002. CUSTOMERS MAY CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY: 1-800-424-9153); OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV.

MOTODOC

January 2011 Defect Recalls
DUCENZO AND tstephenson, HERE'S ANOTHER ONE:

Ducati is recalling certain model year 2010 MTS 1200s motorcycles. In the event the driver should downshift or maneuver with the clutch disengaged and the engine at idle, the vehicle could stall. This could increase the risk of crash. Dealers will re-flash the electronic control unit free of charge. The safety recall is expected to begin during January 2011. Owners may contact Ducati at 800-231-6696. NHTSA campaign ID No. 11v003000

Ducati is recalling the following makes and models because of fuel leakage that can occur at the fuel tank pump flange seal: DUCATI / MTS 1000 2003-2004 2006 DUCATI / MTS 1100 2007-2008 DUCATI / MTS 620 2006 DUCATI / MTS1100 2009 DUCATI / MULTISTRADA 1000 S 2005 Fuel leakage in the presence of an ignition source could result in a fire. Dealers will replace the fuel pump o-ring with an updated part free of charge. The manufacturer has not yet provided an owner notification schedule. Owners may contact Ducati at 800-231-6696. NHTSA Campaign ID number : 11V020000

Ducati is recalling certain model year 2010 Multistrada 1200 motorcycles. During production an incorrect screw may have been installed in the motorcycle's steering head. This situation could cause the steering head to possibly become loose during normal operation. Any any loosening of the steering head could adversely affect the driver's ability to steer the motorcycle increasing the risk of a crash. The dealer will replace the steering head screw with the correct screw. This service will be performed free of charge. The safety recall began on august 13, 2010. Owners may contact Ducati at 800- 231-6696. NHTSA campaign ID number: 10v358000

Ducati is recalling model year 2010 f1098s Streetfighter motorcycles. The electronic control unit ground screw may have been improperly tightened during production which can cause the engine to stall. Stalling while driving can increase the risk of a crash. Dealers will retighten the ground screw free of charge. The recall is expected to begin during October 2009. Owners may contact Ducati dealer at 800-231-6696.

MOTODOC

MOTODOC

DUCENZO AND tstephenson, HERE'S A FEW MORE:

Ducati is recalling 732 model year 2009 1198 S, 1098 R and F1098 S Streetfighter motorcycles. The right fork may have possible cracking a deformation at the right-hand side fork bottom wheel axle pinch bolt area. Cracking of the fork may lead to a loss of steering control, possibly resulting in a crash. Ducati will notify owners and repair the affected motorcycles free of charge. The safety recall is expected to begin during June 2009. Owners may contact Ducati toll-free at 1-800-231-6696.

Ducati is recalling 396 MY 2008 Desmosedici RR motorcycles. The main wiring harness may be routed incorrectly. Any damage to the harness may lead to loss of functionality of the motorcycle system or an unexpected loss of engine performance, thereby increasing the risk of a crash. Dealers will check, reposition and fasten the main wiring harness to the frame free of charge. The recall is expected to begin during May 2009. Call the dealer toll free at 1-800-231-6696 with questions.

Ducati is recalling 1,755 MY 2009 Monster 696 motorcycles. The main wiring harness may come in contact with the vertical cylinder head and exhaust pipe possibly resulting in damage to the motorcycle and a potential hazard to the rider. Any damage to the harness may lead to loss of functionality of the motorcycle's lighting system or an unexpected loss of engine performance, and thereby increase the risk of crash. Dealers will check for interference between the main wiring harness and the vertical cylinder head and exhaust pipe. Dealers will reposition and fasten the main wiring harness to the frame free of charge. Owners may contact Ducati at 800-231-6696.

Ducati is recalling 289 MY 2008 Desmosedici RR motorcycles. The fuel tank drain and breather hose clamps may be installed incorrectly. This nonconformity may cause the fuel lines to weaken and break. This can result in damage to the motorcycle and a potential hazard to the rider. Dealers will replace the fuel filler drain hose, the fuel breather hose, and the hose clamps will be replaced and repositioned free of charge. The recall is expected to begin during Novembere 2008. Owners may contact Ducati at 1-800-231-6696. 08V-563

MOTODOC

You havent proven anything sir


still ready to pick up my all new 1199

This is stupid, you guys amaze me.
There's not a motorcycle built that doesn't have a recall once in a while...
I could list them for pages and pages from each and every manufacturer - it proves nothing.

Motorcycle Recalls

If you're worried then you shouldn't buy a Ducati... some people aren't really Ducati material
That's why Hondas exist.

Honda Recalls

2012 HONDA GL1800
2011 HONDA VT750
2010 HONDA NT700
2010 HONDA VT1300CT
2010 HONDA VT750
2010 HONDA ST1300, ST1300A
2010 HONDA VT1300CR
2010 HONDA VT1300CRA
2010 HONDA GL1800
2009 HONDA GL1800
2009 HONDA ST1300, ST1300A
2009 HONDA ST1300PA
2008 HONDA VT600
2008 HONDA GL1800
2008 HONDA ST1300, ST1300A
2008 HONDA VTX1300
2008 HONDA CBR1000RR
2008 HONDA VT750
2007 HONDA VT1100C2
2007 HONDA VT1100C
2007 HONDA VT750DC SHADOW SPIRIT
2007 HONDA CBR1000RR
2007 HONDA VTX1300
2007 HONDA GL1800
2007 HONDA VT750
2007 HONDA CN250 HELIX
2007 HONDA VT600C SHADOW VLX
2007 HONDA VT600
2007 HONDA VT750 SHADOW AERO
2006 HONDA VT750C
2006 HONDA VTX1800C
2006 HONDA VFR800A
2006 HONDA ST1300
2006 HONDA GL1800 GOLDWING
2006 HONDA CHF50
2006 HONDA ST1300P
2006 HONDA CN250 HELIX
2006 HONDA CB900F
2006 HONDA CBR600RR
2006 HONDA CHF50 S METROPOLITAN
2006 HONDA CBR1000RR
2006 HONDA VFR800
2006 HONDA ST1300A
2006 HONDA VTX1800F
2006 HONDA VTX1800R
2006 HONDA NSS250A
2006 HONDA NSS250
2006 HONDA NSS250S
2006 HONDA NSS250AS REFLEX
2006 HONDA RVT1000R
2006 HONDA VTX1800N
2006 HONDA GL1800
2006 HONDA VTX1800S
2005 HONDA GL1800
2005 HONDA VFR800
2004 HONDA CBR600RR
2004 HONDA CBR1000RR
2004 HONDA ST1300A
2004 HONDA VFR800
2004 HONDA VFR800A
2004 HONDA FSC600
2004 HONDA GL1800
2004 HONDA GL1800A
2004 HONDA ST1300
2004 HONDA GL1800
2003 HONDA VFR800A
2003 HONDA GOLDWING
2003 HONDA GL1800
2003 HONDA ST1300A
2003 HONDA CBR600RR
2003 HONDA FSC600
2003 HONDA CBR1100XX
2003 HONDA SILVER WING
2003 HONDA VFR800
2003 HONDA GL1800
2003 HONDA ST1300
2003 HONDA GL1800A
2002 HONDA GL1800
2002 HONDA VTX1800
2002 HONDA GL1800
2002 HONDA CBR1100XX
2002 HONDA SILVER WING
2002 HONDA VFR800
2002 HONDA FSC600
2002 HONDA GL1800A
2002 HONDA GOLDWING
2001 HONDA GL1800
2001 HONDA CBR929RR
2001 HONDA GL1800
2001 HONDA GL1800A
2000 HONDA CBR929RR
1997 HONDA GL1500
1996 HONDA CBR1000F
1995 HONDA CBR1000F
1994 HONDA CBR1000F
1993 HONDA CBR900RR
1993 HONDA ASPENCADE
1993 HONDA ST1100
1993 HONDA GL1500SE
1993 HONDA ST1100A
1993 HONDA INTERSTATE
1992 HONDA ASPENCADE
1992 HONDA ST1100
1992 HONDA INTERSTATE
1992 HONDA ST1100A
1992 HONDA GL1500SE
1991 HONDA GL1500SE
1991 HONDA INTERSTATE
1991 HONDA ASPENCADE
1991 HONDA ST1100
1990 HONDA GL1500
1990 HONDA GL1500SE
1989 HONDA GL1500
1989 HONDA CBR600F
1988 HONDA GL1500
1988 HONDA NX650
1984 HONDA GL1200
1984 HONDA VF700
1984 HONDA VF500F
1983 HONDA VF750F
1983 HONDA XL600
1982 HONDA NU50
1979 HONDA CB750
1978 HONDA 750
1978 HONDA CX500
1978 HONDA GL1000
1978 HONDA 1000
1978 HONDA CB750
1977 HONDA 750
1977 HONDA 400
1977 HONDA CB750
1977 HONDA 1000
1977 HONDA BETAMOTOR SL5
1976 HONDA 550
1976 HONDA 400
1976 HONDA 750
1976 HONDA 360
1976 HONDA 200
1976 HONDA 500
1976 HONDA 1000
1975 HONDA 360
1975 HONDA 200
1975 HONDA 1000
1975 HONDA 500
1975 HONDA 750
1975 HONDA 400
1975 HONDA 550
1975 HONDA XL125
1974 HONDA XL125
1974 HONDA 360
1974 HONDA 550
1974 HONDA 350
1974 HONDA 200
1974 HONDA 450
1974 HONDA CL200
1974 HONDA 750
1973 HONDA 750
1973 HONDA 350
1973 HONDA 500
1973 HONDA 450
1972 HONDA 500
1972 HONDA 350
1972 HONDA 450
1972 HONDA 750
1971 HONDA 350
1971 HONDA 450
1971 HONDA 500
1971 HONDA 750
1970 HONDA 750
1970 HONDA 450
1970 HONDA 350

I think you get my point. Too many to list them all (this is just a small sample). Doesn't seem like there are any recent models that have been able to avoid being sited (EVEN THE $70K DESM0)!.
OK, not looking for perfection, but can't they at least pay special attention and focus in on the ELECTRICAL, STEERING AND FUEL system components? Just saying...

MOTODOC
SO FAR $20,000 DEPOSIT PAID FOR THE PANIGALE S + ABS
(WILL PAY THE BALANCE WHEN BIKE IS DELIVERED)

Motodoc:







Seriously:

flynbulldog said:

motodoc:

seriously:

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omg lol nice!!!

+1

I do not believe recalls are an indication of overall reliability. As flynbulldog pointed out recalls happen to most all manufacturers Honda, Toyota some of the most reliable manufacturers in the world. These are items identified as a very specific issue found and resolved. This does not indicate the vehicle has persistant issues and reliability is in question.

If you need some peace of mind, don't buy the first year's model and let them work out any issues that might turn up. I have two Ducs with a total of 30K and 9 years (combined) on the clock and only one issue that was fixed at no expense to me.
Don't sweat it

zaster said:

If you need some peace of mind, don't buy the first year's model and let them work out any issues that might turn up. I have two Ducs with a total of 30K and 9 years (combined) on the clock and only one issue that was fixed at no expense to me.
Don't sweat it

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Hey, thanks Zaster. Just looking for a little insight from the seasoned Ducatista. I really feel like the Ducati brand represents the same passion that I have for motorcycles. No doubt that it will be money well spent to own a piece of motorcycle history. Basically, is there anything that is characteristically an issue for Ducati that I should keep an eye on before pushing the bike into the higher percentages of performance (outside of the normal pre-ride checklist)?

MOTODOC
PROUD TO BE A TEST PILOT FOR THE PANIGALE S + ABS

motodoc said:

Just looking for a little insight from the seasoned Ducatista. I really feel like the Ducati brand represents the same passion that I have for motorcycles.

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I hear you motodoc. I'm a seasoned Ducatisti and I have nothing but praise for the brand, comradery and service. Apologies if you take offense to other Ducatisti defending the brand, to a point of fault, though that's part of being a Ducatisti. Yes, like all manufactures, Ducati is not perfect and has had recalls in the past. I will state that most of the recalls that I've have noted over the years, were due to poor quality control with suppliers and not Ducati. However, unlike personal experiences with the likes of some other large manufactures, Ducati are more likely to define and order a recall.

I've been fairly lucky over the years in that I've few issues with my Ducatis. My latest model - 09 1198s, I've had one recall, for an Ohlins fork leg - which my dealer picked up, provided a 1198 loaner and delivered again free of charge. Now that's what I call service.

One thing to consider, as a small manufacturer, a higher percentage of their high end superbikes are raced or tracked on a regular basis. With this in mind, it is more likely that faults will be identified and recalled due to hard use. Besides 3K of road miles, my 09 1198s has run over 4k of hard track miles and one high speed lowside without skipping a beat.

DRSapp said:

I hear you motodoc. I'm a seasoned Ducatisti and I have nothing but praise for the brand, comradery and service. Apologies if you take offense to other Ducatisti defending the brand, to a point of fault, though that's part of being a Ducatisti. Yes, like all manufactures, Ducati is not perfect and has had recalls in the past. I will state that most of the recalls that I've have noted over the years, were due to poor quality control with suppliers and not Ducati. However, unlike personal experiences with the likes of some other large manufactures, Ducati are more likely to define and order a recall.

I've been fairly lucky over the years in that I've few issues with my Ducatis. My latest model - 09 1198s, I've had one recall, for an Ohlins fork leg - which my dealer picked up, provided a 1198 loaner and delivered again free of charge. Now that's what I call service.

One thing to consider, as a small manufacturer, a higher percentage of their high end superbikes are raced or tracked on a regular basis. With this in mind, it is more likely that faults will be identified and recalled due to hard use. Besides 3K of road miles, my 09 1198s has run over 4k of hard track miles and one high speed lowside without skipping a beat.

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Well said chap.

DrSapp, you sir, are the true essence of a Ducatisti!!!No Apologies needed. A true brand loyalist never has to rely on insults, intimidation, and vulgarities. These are the actions of POSERS, not deserving the honor of being associated with the Royal seal "DUCATI"!
BUT Doc S, this is where mankind is today, fully De-Evolved and only focused on Death, Destruction, and Devastation.
Me on the other hand, I will always embrace and encourage others to experience the true beauty and joy of being on a bike, no matter what brand they choose!!! I also remain on the pursuit for true motorcycle nirvana, and I feel that the Panigale will provide the access to this!!!

MOTODOC
PROUD TO BE THE TEST PILOT OF THE PANIGALE S + ABS

DRSapp said:

I hear you motodoc. I'm a seasoned Ducatisti and I have nothing but praise for the brand, comradery and service. ...

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Hey DocS, this is the main reason that I sold the S1000RR. The Bwmer motorrad co always held you responsible for any gremlins wreaking havoc in the bike (until after the 5th letter...). There is no camaraderie, unless your bike has 2 opposed cylinders lying on their sides, and your in the 100,000 mile club . The same applies to the service, if your cylinders don't protrude sideways, the service department wants nothing to do with your bike (there is no aftermarket support, so unless it is bolt-on and installed by the owner, your bike will be in the shop for weeks).
No problem with the BMW road service responding promptly however...

MOTODOC
2012 DUCATI 1199 PANIGALE S +ABS (ON ORDER!!!)
2010 BMW S1000RR (sold)
2008 SUZUKI GSXR 1000 (sold)
2006 HONDA CBR 1000RR (sold)
2004 Kawasaki ZX-12R (sold)
2000 HONDA CBR 1100XX (sold)
1998 HONDA CBR 900 RR (sold)
1996 KAWASAKI ZX-9R NINJA (sold)
1992 SUZUKI GSX 750 KATANA (sold)
1988 KAWASAKI GPz 750 TURBO (sold)
1984 HONDA VF 700F INTERCEPTOR (sold)
1982 YAMAHA XJ 650 TURBO (sold)
1980 (1973) HONDA CB500-FOUR (sold)

WHO CARES !! NOW YOU CHANGE YOUR TONE??!!

PLEASE, DUCATI OR DUCATISTI (not ducatista!!) DONT NEED SOME OF YA AND IF YOU TOO SENSITIVE THEN BITE YA TONGUE BITCH !!

DONT CARE WHAT YOU'VE HAD AND WHAT YOU'VE SOLD, WE RIDE EM TIL THE DIE OR WE KILL EM...TAKE EM TO THE MORGUE!!!

DONT TALK .... BOUT SOMETHING YET YOU GOT ONE ONE LAYAWAY HAHAHAHA

USE YOUR COMMON SENSE, EVERYDAY PRODUCT THATS MANUFACTURE BY HUMAN OR ROBOT (and im a process engineer !!) HAS DEFECT AND RECALLS

A RECAL IS BETTER THAN YOU LOSING YOUR LIFE!!

A RECALL IS THE MANUFACTURE TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR PRODUCT!!

JUST ANNOY ME WHEN SOME OF YOU CONTRADICT YA SELVES, JUST FOR ATTENTION

I ALREADY ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THIS IS A NEW PLATFORM (1199) AND THAT I EXPECT A FEW CLITCHES. AND IF SO, ILL REPLACE THE BIKE WITH A NEW ONE IN A YR OR TWO..IF IT WORKS OUT, THEN ILL KEEP IT FOREVER!!....AND I'VE NEVER CONSIDERED THAT!

EITHER WAY, RIDE ....... !!!

motodoc said:

?... There is no camaraderie, unless your bike has 2 opposed cylinders lying on their sides, and your in the 100,000 mile club . The same applies to the service...

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Yes motodoc, I've heard this sentiment echoed form many S1000RR owners. It's a shame that such a fine machine is not embraced by the mass BMW loyalist, however, though I don't agree with it, I do understand their feeling. Considering it form their point of view would equate to Ducati producing an opposed twin for the multi or even an I4 superkike to replace the panigale! Even a Ducatisti such as myself would have a hard time embracing offerings such as this.

Thanks for the accolade! I consider it a great honor to be referred to as "a true essence of a Ducatisti".