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Seriously though if you do buy it ride it in wet mode to you get used of it.
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Good idea. Stay in touch lets know how you get on. Be sure to post some pics
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Smart move! post some pics and let us know how it goes
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I think it is an exceptional choice because it has ridding modes. put it in the lowest setting, it is like ridding a 600
I have done the intro thing and now I have a thread started by chacaoi that is quite similar to my situation.
Interesting thoughts and whilst I have been off the road for 10 years, rode a 750 kwaka. I feel the time is right to get back out there. Looking to do some track days and have some fun. Been riding 300cc two stroke dirt bikes with a little racing in there as well.
Whilst my heart is set on a new 1299 when they come out next year, I am waiting on my local dealer getting an 899 demo in for me to try.
I agree with a lot of the comments on here and since I haven't ridden a true superbike ever, I can't get past the allure of a Ducati 1299. Whilst I consider myself a more than competent rider on the dirt, I do concede there is some technical differences in riding style between the dirt and road.
I just can't get past the sound, the character, the performance, and good looks of the big duke.
The one thing that does inspire me a little that I won't be biting off more than I can chew is the electronic package that provides a level of safety unheard off before.
As stated above after test riding the 899 hopefully in a couple of weeks time I will be better equipped to make an informed decision.
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Interesting thoughts and whilst I have been off the road for 10 years, rode a 750 kwaka. I feel the time is right to get back out there. Looking to do some track days and have some fun. Been riding 300cc two stroke dirt bikes with a little racing in there as well.
Whilst my heart is set on a new 1299 when they come out next year, I am waiting on my local dealer getting an 899 demo in for me to try.
I agree with a lot of the comments on here and since I haven't ridden a true superbike ever, I can't get past the allure of a Ducati 1299. Whilst I consider myself a more than competent rider on the dirt, I do concede there is some technical differences in riding style between the dirt and road.
I just can't get past the sound, the character, the performance, and good looks of the big duke.
The one thing that does inspire me a little that I won't be biting off more than I can chew is the electronic package that provides a level of safety unheard off before.
As stated above after test riding the 899 hopefully in a couple of weeks time I will be better equipped to make an informed decision.
Enjoying the forum and this thread
Cheers
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The electronics package with the 1199 is excellent (the 1299 is likely to be better again) but it's worth remembering that whilst they can help keep you out of trouble they can't alter the laws of physics, take liberties and the bike will still bite you.
Test ride the 899 and, if you can, the 1199 (1299 won't be too different). I'd suggest your situation is different to the OP as you have a lot of experience, feel and bike control. So long as you are sensible & feel your way in I don't think it'd be beyond you (a few mates have done similar & come from dirt backgrounds), track days would also help to bring you up to speed fairly quickly. IMO both are great bikes but no point in staring at the 899 in your garage a year from now wishing you'd gone for its big brother!
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Thanks spj, my head says the 899, my heart says1299. I just want the quintessential Ducati of the time. I am thinking the 1299 will be the bike I will always lust after, if I don't get it then as you say it will haunt me for along time. Plus with what they cost in oz I won't get too many chances to get the one. Would I be right in thinking the s will be easier to live with than r.
Depends what you want the bike for. Money no object and exclusively for the track I'd opt for the R. Road with the occasional track day thrown in I'd opt for the S, semi active suspension, full LED lighting and a bit more torque. If you're on a budget the base is still a great bike and pick your upgrades! You'll have fun on whichever ;-)
Like most, unlike some. Money will always be an issue, can probably get the s through the stringent justification process, ie smoke and mirrors.
Bike will be used for rides in the hills with the boys, coffee runs maybe with the missus on the back and the occasional track day. The s meets all the criteria. Agree there all great bikes and would be happy on either or.
After reading coast to coast with the an Italian supermodel, the bikes can do anything!
Bike will be used for rides in the hills with the boys, coffee runs maybe with the missus on the back and the occasional track day. The s meets all the criteria. Agree there all great bikes and would be happy on either or.
After reading coast to coast with the an Italian supermodel, the bikes can do anything!
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Get the 1299 you deserve it, or wonder forever!
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i totally disagree with everyone saying that you have to start on a smaller bike. not only doesnt it matter what bike you start on its a waste of money. the 600s are just as fast until you get to the triple digit speeds. also a car blowing a stop sign doesnt say hey lets blow the stop sign cause this guy is on a litre bike as his first bike.
i see it first had all the time. when i bought my first bike it was in 07 i bought an 07 zx10r (brand new never rode a bike before). i took a 2 day safety school on a 250 and at the end you get your license. my 2 friends bought the zx6r. after 4 months they were like can we ride your bike. im like no cause you will want to sell yours. (disclaimer my track bike is one of the zx6rs that my friends bought lol )
be careful throttle control is all you need aka right wrist. you can crash a 600 just as easy as you can crash a 1000
i see it first had all the time. when i bought my first bike it was in 07 i bought an 07 zx10r (brand new never rode a bike before). i took a 2 day safety school on a 250 and at the end you get your license. my 2 friends bought the zx6r. after 4 months they were like can we ride your bike. im like no cause you will want to sell yours. (disclaimer my track bike is one of the zx6rs that my friends bought lol )
be careful throttle control is all you need aka right wrist. you can crash a 600 just as easy as you can crash a 1000
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your insurance rates are high because you live in chicago lib town. slip and fall lawyers everywhere. you have to pay for everyone else that cant afford insurance to make everything equal. just like me in ny. not to mention theft and big city streets. move to montana and your rates wont be high.
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There is no question that anyone who rides carefully and responsibly can handle the big-bore bike, especially in good conditions.
The simple fact is while stupid stuff happens to everyone occasionally, regardless of experience level, the odds of things like parking with sidestand at the wrong angle or other stupid tip-overs, or engine stalling at the wrong moment are much more likely to result in an expensive and discouraging outcome for a new rider than one with a few thousand miles under their belt who can react, or intuitively avoid said situations. The big-bore Ducatis, especially "R" and above models with light flywheels do quit randomly still, as its part of their charm. An 899 has a brick for a flywheel, and runs like a sewing machine. I'd rather see a guy get through the dumb-... portion of the learning curve on something with lower financial risk. Even if you buy an 1199 or 1299 today, it's probably not the last bike you ever buy. Most guys who get into this end up with many bikes over time, and the ones that really like to ride put their ego aside, and realize that even when they have several big-bore bikes in the garage, the middleweight ones are still a lot of fun. If you are newbie going to the track, odds are also that you will end up running faster lap times sooner on the smaller machine.
The simple fact is while stupid stuff happens to everyone occasionally, regardless of experience level, the odds of things like parking with sidestand at the wrong angle or other stupid tip-overs, or engine stalling at the wrong moment are much more likely to result in an expensive and discouraging outcome for a new rider than one with a few thousand miles under their belt who can react, or intuitively avoid said situations. The big-bore Ducatis, especially "R" and above models with light flywheels do quit randomly still, as its part of their charm. An 899 has a brick for a flywheel, and runs like a sewing machine. I'd rather see a guy get through the dumb-... portion of the learning curve on something with lower financial risk. Even if you buy an 1199 or 1299 today, it's probably not the last bike you ever buy. Most guys who get into this end up with many bikes over time, and the ones that really like to ride put their ego aside, and realize that even when they have several big-bore bikes in the garage, the middleweight ones are still a lot of fun. If you are newbie going to the track, odds are also that you will end up running faster lap times sooner on the smaller machine.
Buy the one you like best, I honestly think the 199/1299 is far too much for the road and the 899 is a far better choice, actually in alot of ways i think the 899 is a better bike as on track it just feels alot more nimble even if it is actually heavier.
if you're riding on large tracks the 1199 comes into it's own but anything tight and on roads the 899 wins in my opinion.
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It was an observation more than a literal thing.... I just find it amazing that anyone would advocate a 1299 or any litre bike as a 1st machine to ride...
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