Panigale or Zx10r

Ducati Forum

Help Support Ducati Forum:

Buy the ducati....it's not about the money but the dream :)

Every time I ride and don't wanna stop to ride....I had a lot Japonize bikes...Not the same...don't understand people saying they like more to ride the japa bike....Maybe they ride in traffic, stop lights and etc....It is not a bike for a city ride...in my opinion...

I have a lot country roads with great corners around my place and also a track. This is what this bike belongs.

If I wanna ride green I'll ride my dirt bike :)
 
The ZX 10 is a bad ... bike specially for the price point It has a powerful motor once you get all that emission stuff off of it and remap it. Its easy to ride for day to day commutes. Steering and handling is not as sharp as the 1199. I think the ZX-10 is the best Japanese bike out there right now Kawa is the only Japanese manufacture that is trying to update their bikes not like Honda/Yamaha/Suzuki who haven't changes a thing in the past 8 years or so besides paint scheme and a head light change. The ZX10 is pushing the European bikes (1199, RSV4, HP4, S1000RR) it still comes up short compared to the European bikes. Throw some exotic Ohlin forks, Ohlin rear suspension, Ohlin steering dampener and light weight forged aluminum wheels and its price point will be the same as the european bikes which already comes with exotic stuff.
 
among the Japanese bikes, it is only Kawasaki which really invested on electronics and performance on its bike. The Honda cbr has been unchanged since 2008 while the r1 has been the same since 2009 with the addition of a few electronic aids. I am not familiar with Suzuki.

If you have to ask which one to get either the zx10 or the Kawa, I think you are better of with Kawasaki. in the straitline it is a lot faster too.

I have ridden both bikes and I can honestly say that the Panigale Handles better and it is a lot lighter. I just do not get it how come they are winning in world superstock while getting their ... kicked in wsbk
 
desmodromic system said:
among the Japanese bikes, it is only Kawasaki which really invested on electronics and performance on its bike. The Honda cbr has been unchanged since 2008 while the r1 has been the same since 2009 with the addition of a few electronic aids. I am not familiar with Suzuki.

If you have to ask which one to get either the zx10 or the Kawa, I think you are better of with Kawasaki. in the straitline it is a lot faster too.

I have ridden both bikes and I can honestly say that the Panigale Handles better and it is a lot lighter. I just do not get it how come they are winning in world superstock while getting their ... kicked in wsbk
Click to expand...

The bike simply doesn't adapt well to Superbike rules. Full superbikes bear little in common with the bikes they are based on. The Superstock bikes basically have a gasket to bump compression a tiny bit and the engine blueprinted. As close as you are going to get to it's road-going brethren.
 
SOULRIDER said:
No offense but if you need a bike to get you laid you're coming up short in other areas.;)
Click to expand...



I like the attention of the opposite ..., I have all the requisite parts and pieces already. Since I drive an Avant, I am quite comfortable in my skin thank you:p
 
Hey guys... I'd like your advice too while we're at it.

Ferrari 599 GTO or a Nissan GTR?

What cha guys think?
 
Last edited:
For track or club racing, not too many Ninja's on the grid, where I am.

Why get a Kawi when you can a Yamaha or a Honda if you really must get the biggest bang? not to mention Kawi's are not for being the most "reliable"
 
Last edited:
jamesz3 said:
For track or club racing, not too many Ninja's on the grid.

Why get a Kawi when you can a Yamaha or a Honda if you really must get the biggest bang?
Click to expand...

Huh? I see more of the new Zx10's club racing than R1's and CBR1000rr's combined. Both of which are massively slower than the Kawi, though the CBR has a really friendly chassis IMHO.
 
Plenty of 10R's at WERA and CCS races. The FIM Superstock 1000 class is almost all Panigale and 10R's.
 
Last edited:
Eleven 99 said:
Plenty of 10R's at WERA and CCS races. The FIM Superstock 1000 class is almost all Panigale and 10R's.
Click to expand...

club racing: kawi's are cheaper to crash, to set up properly and to work on, right?

lil different in superstock...

1199's sound better WOT down the main straight :D
 
Phl said:
club racing: kawi's are cheaper to crash, to set up properly and to work on, right?

lil different in superstock...

1199's sound better WOT down the main straight :D
Click to expand...

Certainly cheaper to club race a Ninja compared to a Duc. 1199 sounds better even at idle!
 
Eleven 99 said:
Plenty of 10R's at WERA and CCS races. The FIM Superstock 1000 class is almost all Panigale and 10R's.
Click to expand...

When you pull up the Superstock riders it shows 14 ZX-10's, 6 1199R, 4 BMW, and 2 Honda's (I am not sure if there are other riders racing in Superstock and not listed on the site)..

The Pani R is doing well so far this season and leading in points... I find this promising that the "R" riders are doing well and leading in pts considering there is a 2+ to 1 advantage of Kawa - Ducati riders... I believe BMW pulled out of Superstock this year which is why there is not that many racing....

SBK < Riders 2014

:D
 
jamesz3 said:
Ferrari 599 GTO or a Nissan 370Z?

What cha guys think?
Click to expand...

I think this could apply well as an analogy to the original question. Instead of the 370Z, it should be Ferrari 599 GTO vs. Nissan GT-R Track. Depending upon the track, the GT-R is faster and of course less than half the price of the 599 GTO.

Here is a more empirical test result about the 1199S vs. ZX-10R. Adam Waheed is likely faster than anybody on this forum. For sure Chris Siglin is. Here are their best laps in the 2012 mega-test of Superbikes:

12_superbikes_superpole.jpg


2012 Superbike Smackdown IX Track Conclusion - Motorcycle USA

9 test riders participated in the test, including an AMA Pro Thunder Champion Ducati Racer, and not one of them chose the 1199 for either racing or track days in the summary. Hope that doesn't break some thin-skinned hearts around here.

I love my 1199, but I still like and respect the Gen 4 ZX-10R. It would be great to have one as a second/track bike, as some here obviously do.
 

Similar threads

V
Rotobox review for Street use on v4r?
Replies
11
Views
340
SirJAG
S
L
2012 Ducati 1199 Panigale FOR SALE
Replies
1
Views
430
1199PanagaleSTricolore
1199PanagaleSTricolore
V
Problems and Performance Over Engine Life - v4r and v4s
2
Replies
26
Views
1K
SuperDomestique
SuperDomestique
P
2023 Panigale V4S Motorcycle Front Stand Question
Replies
4
Views
130
Paul G
Paul G
3
V4 or V4S
2 3 4
Replies
64
Views
2K
SuperDomestique
SuperDomestique

Register CTA

Register on Ducati Forum! This sidebar will go away, and you will see fewer ads.

Recent Discussions

Back
Top