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I was told the 1199R's come with the Pro Exhaust here is the US.

I don't think so. It is a $2600 option. It was designed for track use, and it is on the track that its advantages will be most appreciated. Its racing nature requires that, when installing this kit, the pillion rider footpegs and water radiator electric fan are removed. The kit also includes a carbon fiber underseat plate. Once this kit is installed the vehicle is no longer fit for public road use.

So no cooling fan anymore.
 
I don't think so. It is a $2600 option. It was designed for track use, and it is on the track that its advantages will be most appreciated. Its racing nature requires that, when installing this kit, the pillion rider footpegs and water radiator electric fan are removed. The kit also includes a carbon fiber underseat plate. Once this kit is installed the vehicle is no longer fit for public road use.

So no cooling fan anymore.

Were you offered to order one? Are they not available now?

My R is supposed to be here next week and it will be a race bike only so I am interested in this.
 
Were you offered to order one? Are they not available now?

My R is supposed to be here next week and it will be a race bike only so I am interested in this.

My dealer was told kits will be avail at end of April. I asked them to see if it reconfigurable with the fans.
 
Were you offered to order one? Are they not available now?

My R is supposed to be here next week and it will be a race bike only so I am interested in this.

No, they said early May probably. And you know Ducati, count an extra few weeks extra.
 
You can see when you turn on contact. It shows Racing Evo or Racing Pro. The bikes for press had cooling fans I heard. And some had even their stock exhaust systems on it.
 
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So AntiHero, how many people binned it at the launch?

Zero. But one unlucky journalist dropped one in the pits.

As for the exhausts--I do believe, like P1199R states, that there were a mix of Evo and Pro. The only stock exhausts I saw were in pics. Don't recall any of the bikes we had not having Termis. All the Rs come stock with both the Evo and Pro maps. When someone switches exhausts they just 'turn on' the other map.
 
Zero. But one unlucky journalist dropped one in the pits.

As for the exhausts--I do believe, like P1199R states, that there were a mix of Evo and Pro. The only stock exhausts I saw were in pics. Don't recall any of the bikes we had not having Termis. All the Rs come stock with both the Evo and Pro maps. When someone switches exhausts they just 'turn on' the other map.

Really looking forward to your report bud.
 
anti - you're very lucky to have gotten that opportunity, but you've been tremendous pr for ducati and the panigale without any doubt!

Hated to see your bike was hit and hope it's not too horrendous.
 
Hoping my bike will be ok. The only additional damage discovered at this point is the steering stop was busted off, meaning I'll need a new lower triple clamp.

I'm working on the full "behind-the-scenes" write up, but here's my review of the 1199 R:

When I first saw the specs of the R motor during the press launch PowerPoint (the only PowerPoint I've probably ever paid attention to in my life), the differences in weight between the S and the R flywheel and connecting rods were listed in grams. Being a retarded American who has to google “gram to ounce conversion” every time a metric unit of weight is encountered, I dismissed the figures as being measurable by sensitive scales only. One bit of data that I did understand very well was this:

Pole position for the 1199R at Phillip Island: 1:30.795.
Phillip Island Lap Record (set by Hayden on a MotoGP bike): 1:30.059.

Granted, MotoGP hasn't been to the track since the repave, so the record will fall, but the fact a largely undeveloped (for WSB) 1199R, based on a production bike with a base price of $30k, came so close to a MotoGP bike record makes you realize how glorious the Panigale is.

The first hardware details you notice about the R that sets it apart from its more plebeian siblings: aluminum blanks instead of mirrors, a larger, crystal clear, lightly smoked windscreen hiding a tiny GPS sensor under its nose, a full sewer-pipe-diameter Termi System and all sorts of carbon bits. Graphic/design highlights include the “Ducati Corse” graphic on the fairings, which tastefully breaks up the rather expansive demonic red surfaces on either side, the exposed aluminum tank and the perfectly textured new seat cover that grips on the track as well as it looks in the paddock. I’ll admit that the heat shield looks rather obtuse in pictures, but it’s fairly innocuous in person. The lack of rim stripes also gives the bike a more dedicated, singularly purposed appearance, but unfortunately the stark white ‘spider leg’ decals on the nose and fairing detracted from the elegance and simplicity of the rest of the bike. Why sexy and purposeful solid white number plate-graphics were reduced to peripheral traces deducts points from the allure and impact the R versions in the past have had. (The brushed aluminum tank is a nice consolation, though.)

Blindfolded, you’d never know the difference between the R and any other Panigale variant. That is, until you gave the throttle a blip. Those grams that threw me off as being academic during the presentation actually equate to almost 3 lbs less rotating mass, which remarkably changes the responsiveness of the engine. Whereas the base engine builds revs with brutal, explosive, mechanical fervor, the R motor responds with an synaptic, hyper, explosive fluidity.

While sitting on pit row waiting for green-flag-permission to enter the track, I got to enjoy the unapologetic, snarling sounds the engine makes exhaling through the revised Termi exhausts as the journalists launched onto CotA (with no speed limit in the pits). As I hurtled off the line the exhaust note thundered off the pit wall like a THX-optimized version of a solid-fuel space-shuttle launch from afar. The alacrity of the engine, combined with the new gearing made the R feel significantly lighter than the S or Base versions even under partial throttle.

That Ducati doesn't claim any additional HP over the base is the first indication that they might just be sandbagging and have made more changes than they're admitting. Two weeks prior I’d been on the track with my 41T S, so the violent forces associated with full throttle acceleration out of corners and onto the straits were fresh in my mind. The R, despite the standard HP claims, is noticeably more powerful. Granted, my S did dyno lower than the average Panigale, and some of the increased forward momentum could have been a result of the increased rate at which the R’s Superquadro motor revs, but seat-of-the pants is what thrills, and there was no mistaking that the R motor is all R. So much so that the front tire just skims the pavement under full throttle at 150+, causing a ‘weave’ in your line.

The timing required to keep a standard Panigale surging forward through the gears uninterrupted, save for quick stab on the quickshifter, was hopelessly inadequate for the R. Despite an additional 500rpm redline, I hit the limiter before even thinking “shift” several times during the first session. Normally towards the end of the tach stratosphere you can feel a motor begin to struggle. It’s that moment when the engine nears its operating limits and the mechanical precision distorts into aural and tactile mechanical disorganization, causing a simultaneous dip in power. You can feel the change on the Panigale around 10,250 rpm, which cues a snikt on the shift lever. On the R, this second law of mechano-thermo-dynamics-type dissolution near redline simply never happens. In a hypothetical study that I made up just now to prove my point, 10/10 motorcyclists, when asked to estimate at what RPM the R motor was at, underestimated the RPM by 3000-4000 revolutions. And when told that the engine was actually spinning at 12,000, 9/10 people estimated that the redline surely would have to be 15-16,000 rpm, based on how smooth it was. (The other 1 person dropped out due to ‘health’ reasons. We referred to him after that point as “orgasm man.”) Ever hit a false neutral while giving your bike full throttle? That's about how fast the R motor revs when driven in anger.

Similar to my thinking the engine was spinning at far less RPMs than it was, my sensitivity to lean-angle demanded some serious adjustment, too. Flicking the bike (and I do mean flicking, it felt so light) into a corner I found my knee would slap the pavement far before I expected. The engineers had indicated the adj swingarm pivot was set at 0 deg., confounding me to wonder why the bike transitioned from side to side so fluidly. (Wasn't until later that day listening to a conversation between Kevin Duke and the Pirelli rep, that the Supercorsa SPs were a brand new compound, explaining at least part of the mystery.) The rest of the changes I’ll chalk up to the track surface and the overall bad-ass-ness of the 1199.

During the past several months living with the Superquadro, I found it impossible to imagine how Ducati could improve on the Panigale. That they did so soon after launch shows you just how fanatical the engineering team is. The end-result of all the subtle changes made the R feel like it was two versions beyond the standard models. The change in engine characteristics that would definitely be noticeable on the street become more profound on the track--and the extra range of adjustment to the swingarm will make exponential differences on the WSB circuit. The R clearly pushes Ducati forward in the moto-arms-race and provides mere mortals the opportunity to experience World Superbike levels of performance without requiring WSB-like abilities (or budgets).

The Good:
Motor, motor, motor.
Seat material is so good I will be swapping out for one soon
On/off throttle less abrupt
Slipper clutch works more effectively than mine
Gear selection not as critical as on the base models

The Bad:
Having to recalibrate up-shift points
Shorter throttle pull with a rising rate would help when trying to unleash the wrath of Satan while trying to hold on (that last 10% of the throttle required an awkward wrist extension)
Full-throttle front end wander at 150+ speeds (how much steering can you do when the front wheel is barely skimming the pavement?)
Stock pegs still don’t inspire confidence, but Sidi boots make up for a lot of the deficiency.
Graphics don’t leave you in awe
 
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Hoping my bike will be ok. The only additional damage discovered at this point is the steering stop was busted off, meaning I'll need a new lower triple clamp.

I'll do a full behind-the-scenes report of the entire event next. For now, here's my review of the 1199 R:

When I first saw the specs of the R motor during the press launch PowerPoint (the only PowerPoint I've probably ever paid attention to in my life), the differences in weight between the S and the R flywheel and connecting rods were listed in grams. Being a retarded American who has to google "gram to ounce conversion" every time a metric unit of weight is encountered, I dismissed the figures as being measurable by sensitive scales only. One bit of data that I did understand very well was this:

Pole position for the 1199R at Phillip Island: 1:30.795.
Phillip Island Lap Record (set by Hayden on a MotoGP bike): 1:30.059.

Granted, MotoGP hasn't been to the track since the repave, so the record will fall, but the fact a largely undeveloped (for WSB) 1199R, based on a production bike with a base price of $30k, came so close to a MotoGP bike record makes you realize how glorious the Panigale is.

The first hardware details you notice about the R that sets it apart from its more plebeian siblings: aluminum blanks instead of mirrors, a larger, crystal clear, lightly smoked windscreen hiding a tiny GPS sensor under its nose, a full sewer-pipe-diameter Termi System and all sorts of carbon bits. Graphic/design highlights include the "Ducati Corse" graphic on the fairings, which tastefully breaks up the rather expansive demonic red surfaces on either side, the exposed aluminum tank and the perfectly textured new seat cover that grips on the track as well as it looks in the paddock. I will admit that the heat shield looks rather obtuse in pictures, but it's fairly innocuous in person. The lack of rim stripes also gives the bike a more dedicated, singularly purposed appearance, but unfortunately the stark white "˜spider leg' decals on the nose and fairing detracted from the elegance and simplicity of the rest of the bike. Why sexy and purposeful solid white number plate-graphics were reduced to peripheral traces deducts points from the allure and impact the R versions in the past have had. (The brushed aluminum tank is a nice consolation, though.)

Blindfolded, you'd never know the difference between the R and any other Panigale variant. That is, until you gave the throttle a blip. Those grams that threw me off as being academic during the presentation actually equate to almost 3 lbs less rotating mass, which remarkably changes the responsiveness of the engine. Whereas the base engine builds revs with brutal, explosive, mechanical fervor; the R motor responds with an synaptic, hyper, explosive fluidity.

While sitting on pit row waiting for green-flag-permission to enter the track, I got to enjoy the unapologetic, snarling sounds the engine makes exhaling through the revised Termi exhausts as the journalists launched onto CotA (with no speed limit in the pits). As I hurtled off the line the exhaust note thundered off the pit wall like a THX-optimized version of a solid-fuel space-shuttle launch from afar. The alacrity of the engine, combined with the new gearing made the R feel significantly lighter than the S or Base versions even under partial throttle.

That Ducati doesn't claim any additional HP over the base is the first indication that they might just be sandbagging. Two weeks prior I'd been on the track with my 41T S, so the violent forces associated with full throttle acceleration out of corners and onto the straits were fresh in my mind. The R, despite the standard HP claims, is noticeably more powerful. Granted, my S did dyno lower than the average Panigale, and some of the increased forward momentum could have been a result of the increased rate at which the R's Superquadro motor revs, but seat-of-the pants is what thrills, and there was no mistaking that the R motor is all R. So much so that the front tire just skims the pavement under full throttle at 150+, causing a "˜weave' in your line.

The timing required to keep a standard Panigale surging forward through the gears uninterrupted, save for quick stab on the quickshifter, was hopelessly inadequate for the R. Despite an additional 500rpm redline, I hit the limiter before even thinking "shift" several times during the first session. Normally towards the end of the tach stratosphere you can feel a motor begin to struggle. It's that moment when the engine nears its operating limits and the mechanical precision distorts into aural and tactile mechanical disorganization, causing a simultaneous dip in power. You can feel the change on the Panigale around 10,250 rpm, which cues a snikt on the shift lever. On the R, this second law of mechano-thermo-dynamics-type dissolution near redline simply never happens. In a hypothetical study that I made up just now to prove my point, 10/10 motorcyclists, when asked to estimate at what RPM the R motor was at, underestimated the RPM by 3000-4000 revolutions. And when told that the engine was actually spinning at 12,000, 9/10 people estimated that the redline surely would have to be 15-16,000 rpm, based on how smooth it was. (The other 1 person dropped out due to "˜health' reasons. We referred to him after that point as "orgasm man.") Ever hit a false neutral while giving your bike full throttle? That's about how fast the R motor revs when driven in anger.

Similar to my thinking the engine was spinning at far less RPMs than it was, my sensitivity to lean-angle demanded some serious adjustment, too. Flicking the bike (and I do mean flicking, it felt so light) into a corner I found my knee would slap the pavement far before I expected. The engineers had indicated the adj swingarm pivot was set at 0 deg., confounding me to wonder why the bike transitioned from side to side so fluidly. (Wasn't until later that day listening to a conversation between Kevin Duke and the Pirelli rep, that the Supercorsa SPs were a brand new compound, explaining at least part of the mystery.) The rest of the changes I will chalk up to the track surface and the overall bad-ass-ness of the 1199.

During the past several months living with the Superquadro, I found it impossible to imagine how Ducati could improve on the Panigale. That they did so soon after launch shows you just how fanatical the engineering team is. The end-result of all the subtle changes made the R feel like it was two versions beyond the standard models. The change in engine characteristics that would definitely be noticeable on the street become more profound on the track--and the extra range of adjustment to the swingarm will make exponential differences on the WSB circuit. The R clearly pushes Ducati forward in the moto-arms-race and provides mere mortals the opportunity to experience World Superbike levels of performance without requiring WSB-like abilities (or budgets).

The Good:
Motor, motor, motor.
Seat material is so good I will be swapping out for one soon
On/off throttle less abrupt
Slipper clutch works more effectively than mine
Gear selection not as critical as on the base models

The Bad:
Having to recalibrate up-shift points
Shorter throttle pull with a rising rate would help when trying to unleash the wrath of Satan while trying to hold on (that last 10% of the throttle required an uncomfortable wrist extension)
Full-throttle front end wander at 150+ speeds (how much steering can you do when the front wheel is barely skimming the pavement?)
Stock pegs still don't inspire confidence, but Sidi boots make up for a lot of the deficiency.
Graphics don't leave you in awe

I got it, you liked it. :D

Seriously, awsome write up, what we have come to expect from you, and you always deliver. If you don't watch it, Ducati is going to offer you a job!
 
Thanks, guys! Hoping to have at least half of the review of the event done tomorrow to give you all a sneak peak at the hospitality Ducati showed me, as well as what goes on at these types of events.

Anti,

Question on the Seat. Other than small cosmetic difference, it is same as the race seat. Correct?

I don't know if it's the same as the race seat or just a stock seat that was recovered in some other material. Whatever the case, I want one.
 
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Where to begin?

In the realm of M/C reviews, one tends to become anesthetized to the unabashed polarization of the journalist. Could there be biased reports? By esteemed "journalists"?
Blasphemy, you say.

Then comes along our intrepid Anti-Hero. The guy who has clocked the most unequivocal verified seat time in the entire world piloting our beloved Panigale well past 15,000 miles while on every type of terrain including world class race tracks to the tire tearing gnashing teeth of Death Valley.

Of all other Panigale reviews; it is his that I will value the most. Only he who has literally put the world's most technologically advanced SuperBike through such varied paces should be the voice who we can trust to give the most honest of all reviews.

The real hurdle here, though, is reading and then trying to comprehend that this guy is not a professional writer or reviewer by trade; yet his vivid portrayal of his experiences with the Panigale provide a virtual experience for us all to take the ride along with him and place ourselves into a seat right next to him and enjoy the same experience.

Agree or disagree with his finding and conclusions. His passioned writing style captivates and transports us and allows us to make an informed opinion of our own.
 
hero

me reckon,somebody 'll engage u in a real life/pp in the street type of test report?
we dun really noe what levels 're those journalist but u represent the mass consumer&a car racer as dat!
many bike magazine,digital or otherwise can look in yr direction.
was always hoping ducati 'll trade in one of the R u were testing with yr waiting to be repair S.
putting your panigale in their museo ducati is a wonderful advert for their media blitz.
me reckon,a great opportunity miss by them!
 
Antihero, I have read somewhere that the R is not restricted like the Base and S or any bike since 2001. Can you confirm that? If so the R is definitely worth getting.

Im not sure if the following quote is a "Bad or negative thing" if the suspension/swing arm/steering dampener wasn't properly set up for you.

"Full-throttle front end wander at 150+ speeds (how much steering can you do when the front wheel is barely skimming the pavement?"

Sound like you were getting the rocking effect where during high speed acceleration the rear end squating causing a front wheel float or at those speed, the adjustable Ohlin steering dampener (the best in the business IMHO) should have been adjusted pretty tight to prevent front end wander. Either case a proper suspension setup/minor adjustment to the R should take care of that easily.
 
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