Panigale V4 Swingarm Position

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KarlKani said:
pretty on point in regard to you take on the new V4R, very stable on the gas + brakes - def a little slower fast change of direction
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You can sort that last bit by reducing the rotating masses and the bike’s gyroscopic forces, via lighter wheels and rotors, chain and sprockets…then you can have your cake and eat it to
 
RickD996 said:
Hey Jones, he hasn't ridden it Yet! CL has also fitted it, and will probably be trackside sooner!
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Yes, I'm due on track on the 26th, weather permitting, although not having ridden it since the beginning of April, I am not sure how objective my feedback will be.
Just hoping I tightened it all up correctly 😆
Will let you know.
 
The verdict is....

I rode the bike at Silverstone yesterday at a Ducati Day. It was my first time on the bike since the beginning of April.

As I have only been riding on the road during that period on a 998, the PV4 was bound to feel good. And it did.

It felt as though it had so much grip coming out of corners, with great drive. It was still very tiring to ride, probably because I'm not track fit and I was pressing on. I'm confident that it was an improvement over the standard position.

All good so far.

There is a "But " coming though. I had fitted the eccentrics using the standard/original 2020 side plates because the 2019 V4R plates don't quite fit because the crankcase is different.
The standard plates do not have the locating screw that locks into the detent holes in the eccentrics. Consequently, I started to get some rotation, which led to the chain going slack and the swinging arm not being in the right position. Even after resetting them and tightening up the clamp bolt super tight, I still saw some rotation. There's a lot of torque after all.

I don't think there is anyway to run these without either adapting the V4R plates (difficult) or drilling and tapping the original plates (easier, if you can locate the hole accurately).
This will be my next step.
I'm back on track on 18th July, so it's a bit of a race to get this sorted in time.
Great mod, but proceed with caution.
 
cl955 said:
There is a "But " coming though. I had fitted the eccentrics using the standard/original 2020 side plates because the 2019 V4R plates don't quite fit because the crankcase is different.
The standard plates do not have the locating screw that locks into the detent holes in the eccentrics. Consequently, I started to get some rotation, which led to the chain going slack and the swinging arm not being in the right position. Even after resetting them and tightening up the clamp bolt super tight, I still saw some rotation. There's a lot of torque after all.

I don't think there is anyway to run these without either adapting the V4R plates (difficult) or drilling and tapping the original plates (easier, if you can locate the hole accurately).
This will be my next step.
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A good machine shop should be able to sort this out in a jiffy
 
That's my plan, although finding one in the home counties that will take on a small job and not fob you off with a "we're so busy story" is proving a little tricky.
 
cl955 said:
That's my plan, although finding one in the home counties that will take on a small job and not fob you off with a "we're so busy story" is proving a little tricky.
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Yo. I've asked a friend/mechanic, if he can help.
 
RickD996 said:
Fitted the adjustable swingarm position to a base model V4 (2018)

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Nice video. Did this years ago myself. Also, hot tip, if you aren’t using the locating pins for the eccentric & swap the eccentric bushings from the 1199R, which has -2, -4, +2, +4 adjustment, you can get the full 4mm change to equal the 22 bike or an extra 1mm of adjustment on the V4R bike..
 
SpeedOfSound said:
Nice video. Did this years ago myself. Also, hot tip, if you aren’t using the locating pins for the eccentric & swap the eccentric bushings from the 1199R, which has -2, -4, +2, +4 adjustment, you can get the full 4mm change to equal the 22 bike or an extra 1mm of adjustment on the V4R bike..
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Hi mate. You fitted the 1199R eccentrics to a V4? Nice one!
 
RickD996 said:
Hi mate. You fitted the 1199R eccentrics to a V4? Nice one!
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Also correct me if I’m wrong, but I think you may have mixed up the two positions in the video. The swingarm is at more of an angle of inclination ( / ) at the -3 setting and had less inclination, or is more parallel to the ground with the rear axle in the +3 position… You can visually see this when adjusting the pivot, the swingarm’s angle increases with the “front” of the swingarm moving up until you hit the -3 position where it’s at its maximum height/SA angle to the ground versus in +3 where the swingarm is more parallel with the ground and at its lowest position.
 
SpeedOfSound said:
Yes and to my V4R… 😳
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In this picture, are those 1199 r side plates and eccentrics? The side plates (holders) don't look like V4 ones. Is it the same on the other side?
Do these have retaining pins? If not, how do you stop the eccentrics rotating?
All info gratefully received! Thanks
 
I personally don't like this thread. It's gonna cause me to be working when I could be drinking. But it truly has piqued my curiousity. My bike needs to shortened and steeper. Then I move the pivot down?I guess i actually need to watch the video.
 
cl955 said:
In this picture, are those 1199 r side plates and eccentrics? The side plates (holders) don't look like V4 ones. Is it the same on the other side?
Do these have retaining pins? If not, how do you stop the eccentrics rotating?
All info gratefully received! Thanks
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Picture is of my V4R with 1199R eccentrics and aftermarket V4R superbike side plates. The side plates do have retaining bolts for the eccentric.
 

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