Pirelli Supercorse SP V2 Wear

I just want to know how others are doing with the wear on the stock Pirelli tires? I love the grip in the canyons but I am tearing through these tires at a cyclic rate. I go through a front in 1300-1500 miles and a rear in about 3000 miles.

I am wearing the sides of the tires to the wear bars at an alarming rate. I have 1 more new front I am going to put on which should wear out the same time as my current rear tire.

I am going to change over to the SC2's when this set it done. I am hoping to get a little better wear from the SC2's?? I just don't want to give up any grip or feel that I have now.

It's should average 1 front to 2 rears! I'm an aggressive street rider and I have 3 track days coaching novice and intermediate on the stock tires with 2 500 miles on them. The front looks perfect and the rear has another 400-500 miles of life left.

Edit: I have hardly any highway miles on them.. maybe 600ish.. I tend to trailer the bike to the twisty roads as the closest are over an hr away. And I don't like slabbing that long.. saves the flat spots as well as my body for being able to ride more

leftcoast32 said:

I just want to know how others are doing with the wear on the stock Pirelli tires? I love the grip in the canyons but I am tearing through these tires at a cyclic rate. I go through a front in 1300-1500 miles and a rear in about 3000 miles.

I am wearing the sides of the tires to the wear bars at an alarming rate. I have 1 more new front I am going to put on which should wear out the same time as my current rear tire.

I am going to change over to the SC2's when this set it done. I am hoping to get a little better wear from the SC's?? I just don't want to give up any grip or feel that I have now.

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It sounds like you must run it in hard on corner entry front trail braking to your apex. That gobbles up fronts quickly. I go through 2 or 3 rears to every front, but I tend to concentrate more on drive through and off the corner ever if I have to use the rear brake to help turn it in.

I only use the bike for pleasure so it is mostly in the canyons. I don't show any real wear in the center of either the front or the back. The feel from the tires is amazing when being pushed.

My friend has an Aprilia Tuano V4, he goes through a rear faster then front at the same pace as me in the corners. He does run different tires and the geometry of his bike is different.

I know that I carry a lot of speed in the corners, trail braking to the apex and pushing hard on the exit. The bike never feels out of shape at all in the corners. I run with the EBC off as I don't like all the engine braking during deceleration.

I rode with the EBC on 3 with the last set of tires and found that I didn't use the brakes hardly at all, but the wear on the tires was still the same.

This bike still amazes me every time we ride.

I go through the SCs at about 1,000 miles, replacing the front and rear at the same time.
I have switched to the Dunlop Q3s; same performance 500 more miles per set and half the prices. Go with the 190/55 rear; it is virtually the same as the SC 200/55 (0.5 mm width difference). Trust me; you'll never look back.

I'll take in road surface into account as far as why you all destroy tires but also think about truly correct suspension settings as well.as tire pressure they both come into play on the street just as much the track.. if suspension is not set up for your weight with correct sag or spring rates...or the tires are way under inflated for the heat buildup or lack there of. Then you will destroy tires too

I get 2000 ish out of SC's. And equal wear front to rear.

Rough pavement, 32/31 to 31/30 psi cold

Aggressive canyon riding.

TwiztedRabbit said:

It's should average 1 front to 2 rears!

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Agreed. Might be a death wish in the canyons to be on the gas that hard.


We have a few here with the Rac lic that use slicks in the canyons and do just that.


Us mortals that are no slouches tend to wear evenly as were not quite as aggressive with the throttle. You know we always come home in one piece, so I will knock on wood

TwiztedRabbit said:

I'll take in road surface into account as far as why you all destroy tires but also think about truly correct suspension settings as well.as tire pressure they both come into play on the street just as much the track.. if suspension is not set up for your weight with correct sag or spring rates...or the tires are way under inflated for the heat buildup or lack there of. Then you will destroy tires too

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Mostly, the excessive wear rate is because of the road surfaces around here - almost exclusively chip and seal... very coarse. That said, when I was breaking the 1199 in, I got almost 3,000 miles out of the OEM tires.

il get two to one just, about 1250miles max on rear, twisty roads, great tyre but soo exspensive!

I just ordered a set for my 899 from Rocky Mountain ATV for $307 shipped. Of course, the rear is 180/60 and not 200/55, but there is a end of year coupon code good for 10% off - super10 - in case any one is interested...

Sinjin said:

I just ordered a set for my 899 from Rocky Mountain ATV for $307 shipped....

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385$ for the 200 -10%

Just changed my first set at 5000 kms (3100 miles), both front and rear, front had a little left but changed anyway, dealer is 100 kms from me so got both done to save another trip. No track days, about 50% highway running but very even wear across the tyre. Cost $620-00 Aussie dollars for the dealer to go with the original SC's, I like the feel of the tyre but they are expensive, might try the Q3's on the next change.

Cheers
JT

I really like the way the stock Supercorse SP V2's feel.

I have to try the Supercorse SC2's to see if I like them as much as everyone says out here.

I don't mind the cost on the Pirelli's as they can be had at a decent price while on sale. I just purchase a few at a time when they are on sale.

leftcoast32 said:

I really like the way the stock Supercorse SP V2's feel.

I have to try the Supercorse SC2's to see if I like them as much as everyone says out here.

I don't mind the cost on the Pirelli's as they can be had at a decent price while on sale. I just purchase a few at a time when they are on sale.

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The Q3's really give a better more stable feeling you would love.

More mid corner stability, so you can get on the gas quicker.

Tip in is a hair less, but its worth it.


I love the SC's but for the cost, no way Jose.

I was skeptical of the SC as well, but I decided to give it a go. On the track it sticks really well, better than SP once hot. It takes more to warm it up (I do not use tyre warmers); where SP would heat up in 2 laps at my local track, the SC1 front + SC2 rear takes about 4 laps to warm up.
They stick a lot better than the SP that my personal best lap on SP became my regular laptimes on the SC.
Tyre wear rate is about similar, if not slightly better.

On the road, it is a bit meh. I actually prefer the SP better for fast road riding. Maintaining temperature on the road is not realistic for the SC, and because of that they only feel "as good at best or slightly more vague at worst" compared to SP.

In the wet, SC sucks big bull's balls! It sucks so badly in the wet, both on the track (don't even try!! I lowsided turning gently into the pit!) and on the road (scary!!) at places where SP would still grip ok.

Agree on the cost. SC cost is not great at all. But i ride on dry track most of the time, so I'm getting another next week.

leftcoast32 said:

I know that I carry a lot of speed in the corners, trail braking to the apex and pushing hard on the exit. The bike never feels out of shape at all in the corners. I run with the EBC off as I don't like all the engine braking during deceleration.

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Did you flip that EBC setting? EBC off is maximum engine braking. EBC 3 is the minimum amount of engine braking. EBC off sounds like you DO like the engine braking.

Also, are you guys really running DOT race tires on the street?? I've got no idea how you ride but it would seem like street pace (and the lines you're forced to take on shared, two lane roads) combined with inability to use warmers wouldn't be remotely fast enough to get race compound tires up to operating temp and keep them there. Maybe the DOT race Pirellis come up to temp quickly and operate at a wider than expected range but it would seem like the SPs would perform better on the street. Those tires will comfortably carry you up to advanced pace on the track so I have a hard time thinking the race tires are necessary on the street.

BTrain5489 said:

Did you flip that EBC setting? EBC off is maximum engine braking. EBC 3 is the minimum amount of engine braking. EBC off sounds like you DO like the engine braking.

Also, are you guys really running DOT race tires on the street?? I've got no idea how you ride but it would seem like street pace (and the lines you're forced to take on shared, two lane roads) combined with inability to use warmers wouldn't be remotely fast enough to get race compound tires up to operating temp and keep them there. Maybe the DOT race Pirellis come up to temp quickly and operate at a wider than expected range but it would seem like the SPs would perform better on the street. Those tires will comfortably carry you up to advanced pace on the track so I have a hard time thinking the race tires are necessary on the street.

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EBC off compared to EBC3 is a pretty good difference in how much it shows up on deceleration. I made several passes comparing them and with it off I can carry more speed into the corner under decal while using trail braking. With EBC3 I wasn't using the brakes hardly at all and the bike felt more unsettled in the transition between deceleration, maintenance throttle and acceleration.

The canyons we ride like Palomar here will gum up the tires in just 1 pass. We only ride in the dry and most of the year we see black top temps in the 100 degrees plus range. The pavement also feels like riding on sandpaper, crazy traction. The SP's just melt down too fast.

A lot of people out here run slicks in the canyons because we see conditions that keep the heat in them. Most of my friends are running the SC2's and love them out here both on and off the track.

The picture below was taken a couple weeks ago. I have since raised the pegs to the higher setting on the DP Rearset. I was having a problem with the back of my thigh catching on the DP Race Seat, keeping me from fully getting off the bike in the corners. You can see it in the pic below as I was coming out of a hairpin corner.

We rode on Tuesday after raising the pegs and at first they felt too high, almost causing cramps. By the time we got to the mountain we stopped at the bottom so I could stretch out a little. We made 6 full passes on the mountain. The first pass felt bad because I was having to adjust my position mid corner. By the second pass I was falling into position better then ever. By the 5th and 6th pass I was hanging off much better which felt amazing. Raising the pegs cured the problem with the back of my thigh getting caught up and I was running faster and smoother then ever before.

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Also, are you guys really running DOT race tires on the street?? I've got no idea how you ride but it would seem like street pace (and the lines you're forced to take on shared, two lane roads) combined with inability to use warmers wouldn't be remotely fast enough to get race compound tires up to operating temp and keep them there. Maybe the DOT race Pirellis come up to temp quickly and operate at a wider than expected range but it would seem like the SPs would perform better on the street. Those tires will comfortably carry you up to advanced pace on the track so I have a hard time thinking the race tires are necessary on the street.

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Agree.
I would prefer not to run SC compounds on the street at all.

But I only have one pair of wheels no trailers and have to ride the bike to the track. I also ride on the track more than the road (except the occasional road blast when there is no trackday for a few weeks).

Just a proof that SC tyres are actually rideable on the road, both slow and fast. But fully agree it is not the best, both from cost as well as performance. On the road, SP is a lot better in both sense.

Context: average air temperature 10-20 C. Road surface: coarse.

Marmoot said:

Context: average air temperature 10-20 C. Road surface: coarse.

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Our temps here average 25c or 70f and in the summer (most of the year) we see temps in excess of 35c or 95f. Our roads are very course, they feel much like sandpaper as far as grip.