Pirelli WSBK 200/65 Tires for Canyon riding ?

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wortdog said:
As someone who has a stack of worn out 200/65 SC1s and SC3s from last year, here are my thoughts.

The 200/65 slick is much taller(672mm diameter, 10mm taller) and only slightly wider(202mm, 2mm wider) than the 200/60 slick.
The 200/60 Supercorsa is much closer in size and profile to the 200/65 slick since it is 670mm diameter and 200mm wide.

For me the 200/65 slick lasts the longest and has the best drive grip, the 200/60 is the lightest and has the most stability/slowest turn in since it has the roundest profile, and the 200/60 Supercorsa turns in the fastest with the most triangular profile. I happen to like the 125/70 and 200/65 combo the best.

Compound wise, the SC1s:
  • Have a narrow temp range
  • Require warmers
  • Have piles of grip for a few sessions, then drop off to slightly better than SC3 grip
  • Don't last long at all on a V4.

The SC3s:
  • Work over a really wide temp range.
  • Do not require warmers but are happier with them.
  • Last a long time for Pirellis, but they don't last as long as Dunlop slicks
  • Don't have sprint race grip at the start but also don't drop off as dramatically

I've run the SC3 superbike slicks without warmers occasionally, and while they require a good warmup lap, they're not much slower to warm up than Dunlop Q4s or other track focused DOTs. I would not run the SC3 slicks on the street as the Supercorsa profile is close enough.
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The answer I have been searching for the the whole time. Thanks for the insight wortdog.
 
You guys have it all wrong. The answer to running slicks on the street is to run the SCQ compound. They have the most grip and therefore should warm up the quickest and no lose heat. Also tire warmers are for n00bs. Real riders warm their own tires up.

Also why stop at 200 width tires when you can run a 250?

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Excellent reply by wortdog, hopefully our streetracers dont think that its still a good idea to run slicks but its a free world and they can do whatever the want. I get the impression that the OP hasnt tracked his bike, if not I trust that he does a few days. What doesnt come across in WD's reply regarding warmers and them being optional at times, is that the track environment is WOT and max brakes at every single opportunity the entire session. It''s a completely different experience to street in terms of available grip and predictability.
 
baggerman said:
Personally I love the coffeeshop posers. My last 3 ducati's were purchased used from LA posers. They buy all the trick accessories, like full exhaust systems and then never really ride the bikes. Just got to wait till they get bored (or need the cash). Perfect guys to buy from. Motors are gently broken in (good for the valvetrain) and the tires are always pristine.
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I feel attacked
 
baggerman said:
Watching Jonathan Rea catch highsides is exactly why everyone should ride dirt bikes first. In the dirt you're constantly losing one end or the other. Snapping the bike upright and letting it run off when you need to becomes a muscle memory thing. Wet grass or mud on slicks don't slow down.
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I grew up riding dirt bikes in heal Ohio, then didn’t ride any bikes for 25 years until I was nearly 50 years old and bought this V4 and started tracking it, I was very suprised that even after 25 years the 1st time the rear end started slipping at the track on the Superbike my decades old muscle memory just took over and managed it.
 
When I was traveling I went to the tail of the dragon (deals gap). What a cluster ----. Photographers every 5th corner. Trooper parked about halfway. Guys on slicks. The thing with the tail of the dragon is it's slow. Marked 10 and 15 mph corners. So hard to get hurt. Lots of frost heaves so a true home field advantage for the locals. And no I was driving. But if i was a local. Built 2 valve 944 monster on soft dot tires.
 
Steven31371 said:
Unfortunately I suffer under the delusion that on the very next session I’m going to be a very fast racer on the pointy end of the expert race group…
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Let’s race, winner get the bike. I have the pink slip. I live in Los Angeles, we can race in mulholland or angeles crest. Lmk, check my instagram @highoctane299
 
highoctane299 said:
Let’s race, winner get the bike. I have the pink slip. I live in Los Angeles, we can race in mulholland or angeles crest. Lmk, check my instagram @highoctane299
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Nobody is going to check your instagram here, nobody cares, you won’t get social media attention at this forum 😂😂😂

Also, if you wanna race, come to the local tracks, where you can actually run the bike.

I’m probably one of the slowest guys here, but pretty sure I can take ya lol

May 13th Chuckwalla CW with SoCal Trackdays

June 4th Chuckwalla CCW APEX Assassins sun

June 23 Big Willow 2WTD fri

June 24th Streets of Willow CW with 2WTD sat

July 8 Big Willow 2WTD

Sep 17 Chuckwalla CCW 2WTD

Nov 11 Streets of Willow CW with 2WTD

DEC 1 Chuckwalla 2WTD fri

That’s my schedule so far…also if you wanna race for pink slips you better bring two more of your bike or an extra $60k to match mine puff 😂😂😂

PS: It ain’t the bike that makes you fast. I’d be one of the fastest here if that were true lol and I’m not even close to half the guys here.
 

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highoctane299 said:
Your Superlegera wannabe is so funny. V4S but pretend to be Superlegera?

Don’t worry, my bike value total is $70k all mods and labor included.

Let’s take it to the canyons.

So we go to Malibu or angeles crest 9 miles ? Pink slip ?

Change your profile picture, your body position looks like Starbucks squid.
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How much did you spend on your wheels?

Asking for a friend.
 
baggerman said:
Poor guy just wanted to show his bike off.
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I keep coming back to those memes of the street toughs that walk into the MMA gym…he was fine when he was saying he’s been trying to build a fast bike and likes to go fast…peeps would have given him good advise…but instead he asked the toughest guy in the gym to fight while that guy was giving him some decent advice 😂😂😂
 
Steven31371 said:
I keep coming back to those memes of the street toughs that walk into the MMA gym…he was fine when he was saying he’s been trying to build a fast bike and likes to go fast…peeps would have given him good advise…but instead he asked the toughest guy in the gym to fight while that guy was giving him some decent advice 😂😂😂
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Last but not least, you don’t need that longer swingarm. You better practice to get a better body position first.

Yea, my bike is $70k, I have all the proof receipt. I’ll show it to you when you ready to race me at 9 miles crest
 

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