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Mine had a similar problem, the whole motor had to be rebuilt. Except mine only had 4k on it and the Liners were destroyed also along with the pistons and rings.
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Mine had a similar problem, the whole motor had to be rebuilt. Except mine only had 4k on it and the Liners were destroyed also along with the pistons and rings.
Did Huel Johnson at Daytona Ducati do the rebuild? That's where I get mine serviced. Last time I talked to him he was up to number 11 of Pani engine rebuilds
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Did Huel Johnson at Daytona Ducati do the rebuild? That's where I get mine serviced. Last time I talked to him he was up to number 11 of Pani engine rebuilds
Good lord! Is this possibly caused by the pressure difference between the 2 cylinders due to the intake design, that the MWR filter for example is supposed to mitigate?
Or are all of these due to vertical cylinder sucking in the crankcase vapors like AntiHero, and what is the root cause of that?
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Did Huel Johnson at Daytona Ducati do the rebuild? That's where I get mine serviced. Last time I talked to him he was up to number 11 of Pani engine rebuilds
Yes he did, and he did a great job on it. Runs better now then it did when I first bought it.
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Not sure exactly what the problem was but it had to do with the crankcase is what they told me. It happened in January so its been along time and I can't remember the exact details. Next time I go by there I will get the exact reason just to inform everyone. But the signs of the problem were the engine always smoked when it started until it got hot. And the bike went thru a half quart of oil in 250 miles.
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Bloody hell, yeah smoke and mad oil consumption certainly would be an indicator of imminent doom lol.
I don't recall AntiHero having those issues though so in his case perhaps that airbox seal was the predominant nail in his engine coffin.
I'm at 4,300 miles now and no smoke out of the tail pipes since it had less than 200 miles on it. Even still I'm going to request my dealership perform a compression and leakdown test when they replace my spark plugs at 15K just for good measure. Of course my hope is that Ducati has gotten this right by 2014 especially with the 899 engine, but being the number of engines that have been replaced for oil leaks through the engine case on the 899, I'm not holding out that hope any longer lol.
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From what I was talking to Huel about, it is mostly due to an oil leak, maybe from the horizontal cylinder. When I pulled up at Bike Week in March he immediately walked to the bike and inspected the area inside the fairing towards the front and said "You don't seem to have the leaking issue, yet". Apparently if there is some leaking from a certain area the fix requires some disassembly of the motor to address, and is covered by warranty. We laughed that if I do get the problem he'll install the Carillo rods I want for just an additional half hour while he's got the motor apart.
He also said he had rebuilt so many 1199 motors to this point that Ducati NA started sending him warranty claims from other shops because he is so good at it, just as Danger Close confirms. He's a helluva good guy too.
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Ya he is really good mechanic. Now that I think about it something on the Left side blew out and oil was leaking they fixed that. Then about a month latter is when it took a .... on itself and had to be rebuilt. Like I said the bike runs way better now that it has been rebuilt. Cant remember what it was on the left side.
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Extended Warranty is a must. The motor repair bill was 8K to Ducati. So you tell me if you think its worth it. I sure do..
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how do the values look? any major difference between the intake vs exhaust values?
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I wasn't burning oil at all--and my leakdown test was ok. I did have the left side leak (from whatever that hose is) that was fixed .... hmmm, come to think of it, it was fixed around the same time I started having the high idle issue.
Would smog block off plates help, hurt or have no effect on any of this? I'm familiar with the basics of secondary air intakes, but I don't exactly know how the system works on the Panigale.
jyli19: I didn't see my valves, but the heads don't have very many miles on 'em and I never saw the old ones.
Would smog block off plates help, hurt or have no effect on any of this? I'm familiar with the basics of secondary air intakes, but I don't exactly know how the system works on the Panigale.
jyli19: I didn't see my valves, but the heads don't have very many miles on 'em and I never saw the old ones.
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Perhaps this isn't relevant to the extended warranty, but it says here that their warranty is international, and will work just fine for you when abroad.
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Once the ring closes over, that area is fairly protected.Exactly, and even weirder, there is ZERO build up of anything on those areas
IMHO, the piston was either damaged when installed (where the symptoms there immediately after install?), or it's a manufacturing flaw.
The more I look at the zoomed in picture, the more it looks that a piece of cast chipped off. Which would point to bad metallurgy (too much silicon in the alloy?).
Then in that case, you probably don't want to know about the scope of work required to do a valve clearance adjustment
No extended warranty will help you then
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There's still enough time to get it fixed under warranty and unload it and pick up an FJR or a Goldwing. Sure, your artwork might not be as sexy, but I bet you'll make it around the world without going through 10 bikes.
FJR or Goldwing? NEVER!!!!! Already did the circumference of the world on only one bike. I do have to admit I am seriously thinking it might be wise for me to start over on a zero mile bike, though....
C'mon everybody, join in the chant: "SL, SL, SL....."
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