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PaddockStand said:
Your bike isn't subject to the swingarm pivot torque issue is it?

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OH WOW!!! Thanks man! That sounds exactly like what I am experiencing! I will bring this up with my dealer on Monday. My VIN starts with ZDM-F, but I may have been a random in there or maybe if I report it, they could find others affected by it. But it sounds EXACTLY like what I am experiencing.
 
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PaddockStand said:
Your bike isn't subject to the swingarm pivot torque issue is it?

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I reckon he would see the bolt coming out. I recall seeing pics of it somewhere on a forum maybe not this one.

I guess his rear wheel is out of alignment with front. Elite why don,t you string align the front and rear.

If you do not know how its pretty easy to follow steps on any google search. Heaps of youtube videos on how to do it. Good luck.
 
I will have my dealer align it if it needs to be done. I know which recall you are talking about. The bolt was too short. This was a while ago and it did come out I saw the same thing.

However, this recall is different, the regular swingarm bolts were improperly torqued. Not to mention, my dealer torqued them after they replaced the bolt that was too short, as mine fell into the category for the short bolt recall, so its possible they did not torque the new one down tight enough and it is backing off. But that recall he posted sounds exactly like what I am experiencing
 
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When I first read this, I thought it was perhaps just input to the handle bars, but it sounds like you may have a bead on the problem. This has nothing to do with your problem but, I'm just curious why you chose the 1199 to run 1/4 mile times?
 
elitesoldier357 said:
I am scheduled to take it in monday. So I will be having them check it then. I would probably guess the right hand pivot since it wants to go left, would be loose maybe. Even when it isn't windy, the bike feels like it is leaning slightly left when I am cruising
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Did you ever park it in San Francisco next to Antihero? :eek:
 
bronch said:
When I first read this, I thought it was perhaps just input to the handle bars, but it sounds like you may have a bead on the problem. This has nothing to do with your problem but, I'm just curious why you chose the 1199 to run 1/4 mile times?
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Same question here? First; I'm sure the alignment is off. Second; it's not a purpose built drag bike.

My high school friend holds 3 world records on his turbo Busa for 1/4 mile times. He's the real deal. His bikes are meant only for that purpose.

The Pani is a great bike. But it's not a drag bike. You clearly have a lot of experience in the realm of dragging.

Why not use the Pani on road courses as ir was intended and build a real 1/4 mile bike? Sounds like you have the talent and balls to take it take it to the limit. I'd use the proper tool for the job.

In any case, the "abuse " a 1/4 bike take DEMANDS a nut and bolt and thorough realignmentnafter each session. And a working knowledge of the integral parts is paramoumt to the success of the the privateer 1/4 biker.

I was an "arrive and drive" racer in my 996RSR. I wouldn't have ventured ioto the track without my crew going over each and every parameter between practice, qualifying and races.

You should hook up with a track support crew. I'm sure there are several to be found at your 1/4 events. Let them take the guess work out of your bike and you can do the riding with a clear and confident mind set.
 
I didn't chose the 1199 to run drag times. Is there a problem with me taking it to the drag strip every once in a while and paying $25 to run as fast as I want all day? It's called "Test and Tune" I didn't buy the 1199 as a drag bike if that is what you are asking. I do everything with it. I enjoy drag racing as well as carving some curves, what's wrong with that? Before this turns into yet another ruined thread, I am going to tell some people here you shouldn't jump to conclusions. Enough said. Get back on topic.
 
I'll be taking the bike in tomorrow morning and I won't be leaving with a bike that can't run straight. I am very sure that the swingarm bolts may be loose. Right hand curves cause heavy steering, but left hand ones feel fine. Bike feels like it is leaning left when I am cruising and at stop lights the wheel is pointed straight but the body looks like it is pointing slightly off from the steering. Again, under hard acceleration it wants to shoot left hard enough that I have to get my whole body off to right side of the tank as if I was taking a hard right curve. These are my symptoms, I will let you guys know what the diagnosis is in case someone else may come across this same problem after I take it to my dealer. More to follow.
 
elitesoldier357 said:
OH WOW!!! Thanks man! That sounds exactly like what I am experiencing! I will bring this up with my dealer on Monday. My VIN starts with ZDM-F, but I may have been a random in there or maybe if I report it, they could find others affected by it. But it sounds EXACTLY like what I am experiencing.
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This website is for VOSA in the UK, you'll need to find the equivalent recall for the US as I believe VIN's are market specific. The recall goes back a while and you should have been informed by Ducati or your dealer if your bike is subject to this recall. Having said this, I still to this day have not had a notification letter about the separate swingarm bolt recall discussed above, despite my bike being on the list. So its best to check.
 
elitesoldier357 said:
I didn't chose the 1199 to run drag times. Is there a problem with me taking it to the drag strip every once in a while and paying $25 to run as fast as I want all day? It's called "Test and Tune" I didn't buy the 1199 as a drag bike if that is what you are asking. I do everything with it. I enjoy drag racing as well as carving some curves, what's wrong with that? Before this turns into yet another ruined thread, I am going to tell some people here you shouldn't jump to conclusions. Enough said. Get back on topic.
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No need to get defensive, I was just curious.
 
PaddockStand said:
This website is for VOSA in the UK, you'll need to find the equivalent recall for the US as I believe VIN's are market specific. The recall goes back a while and you should have been informed by Ducati or your dealer if your bike is subject to this recall. Having said this, I still to this day have not had a notification letter about the separate swingarm bolt recall discussed above, despite my bike being on the list. So its best to check.
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I did have the short bolt recall. I am thinking when they put the new ones in they may have not been torqued down correctly. But I'll have them check it.
 
elitesoldier357 said:
I did have the short bolt recall. I am thinking when they put the new ones in they may have not been torqued down correctly. But I'll have them check it.
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The swing arm shaft recall is complexly separate to the recall to do with an incorrectly sized bolt being fitted to the suspension/swing arm linkage, which was this one Recall Details for DUCATI - 1199 Panigale

This wrong bolt recall is sort of black and white - if the bolt fails (or back out) your rear suspension will collapse, which you'll notice for certain, otherwise it will function normally until this happens. I doubt this is the cause. The problem was actually that they fitted a bolt that was too long, not too short. This meant the bolt was torqued against the bottom of the blind hole into which it fits, rather than against the end of the suspension link rod.
 
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elitesoldier357 said:
I didn't chose the 1199 to run drag times. Is there a problem with me taking it to the drag strip every once in a while and paying $25 to run as fast as I want all day? It's called "Test and Tune" I didn't buy the 1199 as a drag bike if that is what you are asking. I do everything with it. I enjoy drag racing as well as carving some curves, what's wrong with that? Before this turns into yet another ruined thread, I am going to tell some people here you shouldn't jump to conclusions. Enough said. Get back on topic.
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Read my post to you again...it was rather complimentary to your abilities and I was intoning that youve outgrown the drag aspect of this bike and u would prob ne really happy on a purpose built drag bike

Your T N T sessions are revealing the weak point in the bike for us, so all is good.

So, take your own advise about jumping to conclusions. Read, digest and then respond.
 
Are your forks tweeked? Have you ever removed the front wheel? If so did you follow the proper sequence for tightening the axle and pinch bolts? I'm thinking your front wheel could be pointing to the left ever so slightly. This would require you to compensate by leaning to the right when riding. The harder you accelerate or the faster the speed the more you will need to compensate.

For what it is worth...
 
I have to do some more testing to be sure it was the issue. But sat at my dealer all day (6 hours) so they could check the torque on some bolts that could be easily seen :confused: Not sure how people can be so slow... Non-the-less. I kept my cool as I sat in the shop in full leathers all day and they finally got it back to me. Torque on the swingarm pivot bolts were ok. But the bearing shaft to the rear shock was not. They torqued it back to spec and it seems to travel in a straight line ok now. But I didn't get to really open it up hard as it was getting late. I'll test it out more tomorrow, but if anyone comes across this again, which it will almost surely happen, it is probably your swingarm anchor bolts, axle bolts, or shock absorber bearing shaft.

RSR, I'm just going to put this here (your opening sentence) "First; I'm sure the alignment is off. Second; it's not a purpose built drag bike." Yes, I am aware it is not a drag bike. Thank you for the condescending advice.
 
whoa. another thread going through the roof.

i am sure RSR just wanted to give you proper advise. testing and 1/4 mile'ing a bike that doesn't work properly is definitely suicidal. please keep that in mind, people don't say .... here to piss you off personally, but to save your life.

try to find someone who can measure your bike. forks, swingarm straight? tires symmetric? suspension loose? what the heck, as said, find someone who puts his life on bikes and not your lame ass dealer, who seems to have no clue.

sorry about your friend but even more for his wife, but 1. that was a while ago, and 2. we don't want you to be next.
 
Phil said:
whoa. another thread going through the roof.

i am sure RSR just wanted to give you proper advise. testing and 1/4 mile'ing a bike that doesn't work properly is definitely suicidal. please keep that in mind, people don't say .... here to piss you off personally, but to save your life.

try to find someone who can measure your bike. forks, swingarm straight? tires symmetric? suspension loose? what the heck, as said, find someone who puts his life on bikes and not your lame ass dealer, who seems to have no clue.

sorry about your friend but even more for his wife, but 1. that was a while ago, and 2. we don't want you to be next.
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UPDATE: The dealer fixed the problem. It was the bolt that goes through the rear bearing on the rear shock absorber. The bolt was not torqued all the way and was the cause of my problem.
 
Phil said:
whoa. another thread going through the roof.

i am sure RSR just wanted to give you proper advise. testing and 1/4 mile'ing a bike that doesn't work properly is definitely suicidal. please keep that in mind, people don't say .... here to piss you off personally, but to save your life.

try to find someone who can measure your bike. forks, swingarm straight? tires symmetric? suspension loose? what the heck, as said, find someone who puts his life on bikes and not your lame ass dealer, who seems to have no clue.

sorry about your friend but even more for his wife, but 1. that was a while ago, and 2. we don't want you to be next.
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Thanks Phil
 

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