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Good point Mito, you might be onto something there.
 
Some people like to put SSSA and TFN dashes on 899's.....
Some have the $$$ to buy a SL and park it in there living room....
Some buy a bike and never mod it due to "Dont wana break the warranty"
Others their bike only stays OEM on the first ride home before it is stripped and moded



....and theres always going to be that .... factor by having a special edition bike.

Everytime the local SL comes on a ride it always draws the most attention, even thou there are other bikes/riders which are faster.

Haters gonna hate, buyers gonna buy
 
DStyleNZL said:
Some people like to put SSSA and TFN dashes on 899's.....
Some have the $$$ to buy a SL and park it in there living room....
Some buy a bike and never mod it due to "Dont wana break the warranty"
Others their bike only stays OEM on the first ride home before it is stripped and moded



....and theres always going to be that .... factor by having a special edition bike.

Everytime the local SL comes on a ride it always draws the most attention, even thou there are other bikes/riders which are faster.

Haters gonna hate, buyers gonna buy
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Totally agree with you.....at least this one is doing something, track day in Sydney :)
 

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Wallaroo said:
Totally agree with you.....at least this one is doing something, track day in Sydney :)
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There's was a Superleggera in the fast group at Almeria in Spain earlier in the year. He wasn't holding anything back including a few trips in to the gravel. It was great to see the bike being used for what it does best.
 
Samieb brings his SL out with us.. Our Pani's may awell be Fireblades due to attention it draws
 
endodoc said:
RD16RR. Tell you what. I will make a build list of the last bike I did with photos as more than a few guys on this forum have seen this bike. I will post a side by side with the current SL as the new SL is vaporware and is going to be more money regardless. I will categorically show in every single component between the bikes that my build exceeded what was offered on the 1199SL. You can have whoever you want look up the numbers and make the determination if in fact our components and build were superior. If I come in under the 1199SL launch price, you donate 5K to a charity cool? Im one guy, not a motorcycle company. You compared me to Buell. Thats a motorcycle mfg chief.
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...ahh, so you do know where to start...:rolleyes:

the reference to manufacturing pertained to the "i can build" as opposed to "i can bolt on parts" way of doing things.....anyway.......

with cool heads prevailing.....(somewhere within the context of your posts) (most recently:"i build all my bikes and cars from scratch") you stated you could build a better bike for less....all i'm saying is "doubtful" ("doubtful" is being diplomatic, because i believe its more like No Way).....if you can, thats great...i just thought it would be interesting to see what you can do and the dollars associated with it

i have never done the math, but i find it hard to believe (although i feel a strong conviction on your part that you can) that you could take a base model 1199 and convert it to an SL (or R) for less then buying a brand new one - if you could, well thats awesome (i'd still want the factory one) and it would be a testament to building skills (including all the "back to the drawing board" scenarios, and time spent calibrating things that need to be calibrated) ;) and product sourcing
 
endodoc said:
Well that pretty much validates it. Those wheels are the same wheels BST showed 3 months ago. The swing arm and frame are also the original BST renderings. Other than that I see the carbon sub frame from the 1199SL and a bunch of stock parts. The sub frame from CDT gives you the whole tail with interchangeable road/track light plates at less than half the cost of just the Duc sub frame with no tail. The swing arm is $4100.00. The frame is vaporware and I would not want it anyhow. Additionally they could have compared the frame to the magnesium SL frame for a weight comparison but they chose not to. Seriously you going to get 12k worth of parts (retail) and that includes the motor mods and a CDT CF body. Other than that you going to get a stock 1299 in terms of parts so were at lets say high side $28,000.00 for the bike plus 12K and were at 40K. There going to ask you for $65,000.00 at least. No thanks Ducati. I'll pass on the ripoff.
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I tend to agree with you, however the factory as well as their marketing department, know full well that instilling a sense of exclusivity amongst potential buyers, is tantamount to them printing their own money, as historically there is always going to be a sector of these people who will be lulled by the hype and who can afford it. Whilst I don't doubt the bike is going to have high spec parts, some judicious shopping could net you many of the components it will boast, so you are only short on a hp, if you left the engine untouched on a donor bike (ie a 1299R). It of course wont be THE SAME bike but more importantly it could be made to come close to it and for significantly less money. Most of the components mentioned can be obtained if you know where to look, who to ask etc. I'd still be dreaming even if they offered this bike at half the estimated asking price, sadly. My feeling is that this will be the last hoorah for the Panigale before it makes way for an all new model in 2018 (which is probably already on the drawing board as we speak)
 
Psst..... My SL has more track miles than street miles.

I don't see how ANYONE could ever complain about building a new SL. They are doing something most other manufactures would NEVER dream of doing.

Is this bike going to be perfect, no. Is there better bikes out their, maybe.

But who else is putting this out to the public. I am very fortunate to have multi bikes & hands down the SL is so far above each bike it's not even funny.

The fact that Ducati even makes this an option for us is awesome, I don't know how anyone could ever complain about this being available to the general public.

Is it expensive, yes. It's not mean to be for everyone, but is that a bad thing?

I cannot wait to see this bad boy.... :D
 

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Psst..... My SL has more track miles than street miles.

I don't see how ANYONE could ever complain about building a new SL. They are doing something most other manufactures would NEVER dream of doing.

Is this bike going to be perfect, no. Is there better bikes out their, maybe.

But who else is putting this out to the public. I am very fortunate to have multi bikes & hands down the SL is so far above each bike it's not even funny.

The fact that Ducati even makes this an option for us is awesome, I don't know how anyone could ever complain about this being available to the general public.

Is it expensive, yes. It's mean to be & not for everyone, but is that a bad thing?

I cannot wait to see this bad boy.... :D
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^^^^what he said !! ^^^^
 
+1

I'm nowhere near owning this, but this tech will filter down and become available so I approve.

How do you develop and advance without thinking outside the box?!
 
I'm at the age where I'd much rather pay a little more to have something (even semi-tricked out) straight from the mfr. Building something yourself is indeed rewarding and fun. But dealing with parts that don't fit/work requires patience I just don't have anymore. Not to mention the warranty issues if a problem arises. I have a car project that's been sitting for 5 years now because I've lost patience for dealing with the problem solving that comes with building something unique. Now I would rather turn a key and enjoy riding/driving whatever.

In fact I'm dealing with a carbon kickstand right now that doesn't work. By dealing I mean it's now sitting on the workbench collecting dust. So friggin' annoying.
 
MdDuc said:
Wow another "special limited edition." Good lord Ducati is scraping the bottom of the barrel. Every six months a "super duper special limited edition" bike is being released from them. It will be nothing more than a lot of lightweight material and a few different internals. Once again, you could rip apart a base and make twice the bike for half the price.

When we see a new D16RR or similar give me a call and maybe I'll jump with joy. These limited runs hold zero value when you do them every year.
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fully agree!
 
Fully agree with the sentiments above ^.

Big respect to you @endodoc for being able to build stuff to what sounds like a high spec ( and if I could live my life again I'd go into aerospace engineering as well incidentally presuming thats what you do?) but most people can't build their own engines and paying someone else to do it for them escalates the price. Add in the other shiny stuff and considerable development time at what ever cost you value your time and the big money prices of these bikes don't look so bad.

I look at my R and think I could probably get my S or a base model to a similar spec but after £10k for the engine work (or £15k if you were to buy an R engine from Ducati Corsa) and £2k for wheels it's already on it's way to the R price. Once I've made a few mistakes and blown an engine it's going to be well over the price I payed for the R. The separate parts from Ducati are certainly prohibitively expensive over alternatives, I got quoted over £3000 for forks recently, but as a whole the purchase price of the bike is reasonable for what you get.

I'm sure you could apply similar logic to buying an R and trying to get it to the 1408 spec. Going by what others spend doing similar to this I'd say £66 isn't going to get you there?!

It's awesome that Ducati make these amazing bikes. I'd certainly consider buying them if I had the spare cash on top of what I already have.
 
i'm so so glad ducati builds these bikes and pushes the tech down the chain,i have no issues with the price sure it would be great if they were cheaper but they has established themselves as a premium brand and a price comes with that.

But what i'm most happy about is that they have warrantied these bikes for two years imagine 10 years ago having a conversation about a street legal 200bhp race bike that has a 2 yr warranty.

the the only real issue i have is that they keep on pushing out special plaque models which have a new paint job and some factory carbon, i just wish they kept this for the real barrier breaking bikes like the D16, SL, 1098R, bikes that were game changers not something you can change from a base bike to the latest XXX model for a few $$.

BTW i doubt you could build a SL cheaper than the price of a new one.
 
royal said:
Fully agree with the sentiments above ^.

Big respect to you @endodoc for being able to build stuff to what sounds like a high spec ( and if I could live my life again I'd go into aerospace engineering as well incidentally presuming thats what you do?) but most people can't build their own engines and paying someone else to do it for them escalates the price. Add in the other shiny stuff and considerable development time at what ever cost you value your time and the big money prices of these bikes don't look so bad.

I look at my R and think I could probably get my S or a base model to a similar spec but after £10k for the engine work (or £15k if you were to buy an R engine from Ducati Corsa) and £2k for wheels it's already on it's way to the R price. Once I've made a few mistakes and blown an engine it's going to be well over the price I payed for the R. The separate parts from Ducati are certainly prohibitively expensive over alternatives, I got quoted over £3000 for forks recently, but as a whole the purchase price of the bike is reasonable for what you get.

I'm sure you could apply similar logic to buying an R and trying to get it to the 1408 spec. Going by what others spend doing similar to this I'd say £66 isn't going to get you there?!

It's awesome that Ducati make these amazing bikes. I'd certainly consider buying them if I had the spare cash on top of what I already have.
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I agree with you in this. Kudos for those who love building bikes or like to tear down and building your own with your taste or what not.

I always think it's similar to cars as example to some degree.

Talented person can make his/her Honda Civic ($14-24k) "faster" than a Ferrari ($300k+) but to me it's not the same. If I had the money, I rather get the Ferrari given you spend close to Ferrari price of...$200k for engines, suspension, exotic materials etc.
 
I got my invite from Ducati for this wonderful bike. Unfortunately I'd have to sell my other Ducs in order to acquire this. Not going to happen.
But it's nice to know that Ducati thinks that I'm a special person.

*** Don't anyone burst my balloon now***
 
Twistedracer said:
I got my invite from Ducati for this wonderful bike. Unfortunately I'd have to sell my other Ducs in order to acquire this. Not going to happen.
But it's nice to know that Ducati thinks that I'm a special person.

*** Don't anyone burst my balloon now***
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I agree with you buddy! To rich for my blood as I'm more into quantity and diversification of the bikes I own and having only one super expensive bike doesn't work for me. I'm never getting rid of the Paul Smart. PS for life!

Great that Ducati builds and offers this to those who want it and great that others can build an awesome one off superbike. To each their own and as long as they love what the bought or built and hopefully ride it, then great!
 

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