PSA - negative experience with Cycler (Aaron Beller)

What a bunch of cheap .......s, all after a lousy 4% discount!

Also Craig, hope you get your money back- I am sure that Aaron will pay as soon as he has the means but radio silence is not cool.

Loony888 said:

It is however a good opportunity for people to be reminded that not everyone is who they appear to be and what they were like last time may not be who they are today, for whatever reason...

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Agree 100%

This is my primary goal in sharing my experience.

double0 said:

Getting refunded through PayPal has never been an issue, as long as it wasn't a F&F type of transaction.
They are always more than helpful and after providing evidence to support your case, your issue is typically resolved within 10 days and you get your refund. I just had this issue with a piece of canvas art i purchased which arrived damaged and the seller simply stopped responding after the second shipped (and damaged) frame. 10 days after I initiated the case, i got a refund. Payment was deducted from my checking account initially.

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Agreed. A couple months ago, PayPal awarded me a refund from Tamburini Factory after I ordered one of their trellis frames and it turned up looking quite different than their stock pictures. Paid via cc.

Paul G said:

What a bunch of cheap .......s, all after a lousy 4% discount!

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Yep. Lol

Paul G said:

Also Craig, hope you get your money back- I am sure that Aaron will pay as soon as he has the means but radio silence is not cool.

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Thanks bro.

Paul G said:

Also Craig, hope you get your money back- I am sure that Aaron will pay as soon as he has the means but radio silence is not cool.

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Look at it as an interest free loan you have provided…it’s only fair you don’t set any terms

Didn't someone once post his home address or something like that on here?
Payin him a lil surprise visit might be necessary lol

Knock Knock......

craig bush said:

I’m hearing speculation that he’s well intended but got himself in trouble spending money that wasn’t his and then needing to cover one order with money from another, and he got in over his head.

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This is extremely common In small business like his, which was parts and ordering all he was doing was being the middle man. He had very few parts on hand, no inventory to keep cost down. Eventually this caught up with him and to make it worse he started blowing more money out his butt on himself. So it turns into a Ponzi scheme where he has to pay off one order with another, and eventually it falls apart.

Its not really a Ponzi scheme in the true sense of the term.

But, deceptive business practice for sure.

I tend to prefer vendors who have product in-hand. This strange model whereas a very large company serves as a warehouse for many independent sellers made it all worse. Just about everything in the motorcycle industry in the US ships from Parts Unlimited.

It’s all a bit messy. I order most everything from EU.

Yeah, if you can spare the time its a money saver for sure. Returns are sketchy though.

I have this theory that UPS is giving Amazon such a free ride that they are raping their other (individual) customers to give Amazon that price. Its super expensive for an individual to ship anything.

My last race suit I ordered from Motocard. It took a bit to get here. Most of my thought process thinks it had to do with dispute times on fraudulent transactions; that is they put it in a waiting tank to see if it was disputed. The product arrived exactly like I expected. It took longer than Revzilla (conglomerate Parts Unlimited vendor) but whatever.

I had some issues with him a little over a year ago as well. I had ordered a termi slip on for my 959 and could never get a straight answer on when it was coming. He kept saying he would look into it and would go silent for two weeks before I would remind him again. It went on like that for two months before I started reaching out multiple times a week. Then once the exhaust made it to America, his business partner in New York sat on it for another week until I threatened to dispute the charge on paypal. He did apologize, and offered me his cost on any future parts. But it caused me a huge head ache trying to get the bike together before running Road America last May. Lesson learned, don't pay F&F and go through a vetted company. I had also heard a lot of good stuff about the guy, and my brother even purchased a vandemon full system from him with no issues at all.