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Evol- you got the most stellar deal anyone has ever seen on eBay on that Tri man!
Nothing on that bike is worth taking off! Great deal and I applaud you my friend!
 
Personally, I don't care for an arbitrary number at the top of RPM curve, but am very pleased to see that the midrange dip is not really a dip, but merely an indentation.
Thanks for sharing.
 
I do. But they came with my bike. Would I shell out the money for them brand new? Probably not. I don't care about the few extra HP they provide over the slips.

But to say they are worse than stock, well thats a little bias I think.

I agree...but there's not much doubt (is there??) that they do not deliver the expected performance (canned tune) and are poor value for money when compared to the slips... But I am sure that with a bespoke tune they are probably going to give you some good numbers.. But I have never found any canned tune to be worth much...all bikes are different..this is why I am not clear why people are jumping on the TB tune... I love the idea of the CC but no way a generic tune will work well on all bikes...
 
Mission accomplished, back to cutting my lawn.

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What a ....... douche! If you don't have anything to contribute in a constructive way then why say anything at all. Another Internet tough guy...:rolleyes:
 
fact is a full system is totally not worth it. i looked into it heavily and if it were worth it i would have bought it. its a marketing ploy to make you think you need it. most after market full systems are to reduce weight maybe remove the cat. thats it. why buy another SS pipe when you already have one?

the pipe is 20mm larger this drops performance because the gases expand in side the pipe instead of having it pulled through at a faster pace. i forgot what its called but its like what undertow is. all the water pulling into a smaller opening creates a force. i would have got it if it were same as stock titanium.

4k for 5 hp give me a break and a loss in mid range to gain some on top end which you will never use. On a 25k bike thats 20% the cost of a bike or a used say cbr1000rr for the track.

It really depends on what you are planning to do with the Full system. When I first installed my Full System, it gave me 185.90 HP and increase of about 10 HP from stock. Not only did it gave me more HP at the top but it increased power slightly in the low, mid and high just with the Ducati latest Up map. The 20mm larger diameter does not drop performance as one of Termi's competitor states, but it causes the mid to stay somewhat flat but does not drop. You need the extra 20mm when tuning the engine such as cam's, air intake, higher compression pistons. This engine can really pull some serious air into the engine. The cam timing alone will increase your bikes HP performance significantly more than the exhaust system would ever give. Ive done mine already and the HP increase is crazy stupid and Im waiting on custom built high compression pistons and unfortunately I needed to spend the $3K on the exhaust system that can handle it. The Ti material headers does not give more power it just gives you weight savings but the cost would be tremendous. The HP to cost ratio on a Ti exhaust system to me would insane because the exhaust systems mod gives you the least amount of HP increase but it the most expensive.
 
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Again??? When did I begin? I guess I couldn't see the humor in your typing... I'll go back to cutting the grass. I guess that's why your the thought police...:)

I guess sarcasm and cynicism eludes the best of us. If I were the thought police I ought to lock you up for endangering yourself by thinking :p.


I planned to drop it before you came in here ready to drop 'bows. We can go back and forth all day if that's what you want, duking it out on the Internet is pretty productive.
 
I guess sarcasm and cynicism eludes the best of us. If I were the thought police I ought to lock you up for endangering yourself by thinking :p.


I planned to drop it before you came in here ready to drop 'bows. We can go back and forth all day if that's what you want, duking it out on the Internet is pretty productive.

Yeah, good one... Hahaa! It would be tough for you to be the thought police when your the worst offender.:rolleyes:

Yup, I'm done with this as it's as productive as your other 2,694 posts.:p
 
I'm pretty sure the "pissing" contest is over. I was fooling with Gunny, the sarcasm got lost in the bits and bytes.

ahhh, okay :)
I detected a little but then it felt serious. Glad to know we're all happy again :D
(except for Frosty). He=:mad::mad::mad:
 
It really depends on what you are planning to do with the Full system. When I first installed my Full System, it gave me 185.90 HP and increase of about 10 HP from stock. Not only did it gave me more HP at the top but it increased power slightly in the low, mid and high just with the Ducati latest Up map. The 20mm larger diameter does not drop performance as one of Termi's competitor states, but it causes the mid to stay somewhat flat but does not drop. You need the extra 20mm when tuning the engine such as cam's, air intake, higher compression pistons. This engine can really pull some serious air into the engine. The cam timing alone will increase your bikes HP performance significantly more than the exhaust system would ever give. Ive done mine already and the HP increase is crazy stupid and Im waiting on custom built high compression pistons and unfortunately I needed to spend the $3K on the exhaust system that can handle it. The Ti material headers does not give more power it just gives you weight savings but the cost would be tremendous. The HP to cost ratio on a Ti exhaust system to me would insane because the exhaust systems mod gives you the least amount of HP increase but it the most expensive.

correct me if i am wrong but your exhaust is jet coated. makes a HUGE difference because the SS cant expand from the heat.
 
oh scrapperx i was saying if the pipe was ti not stainless i would have done it if it were from termi because i dont want to deal with all the tuning from akra. anyway i have slips more than enough. if i ever need an extra 10 hp to beat someone on the track because my skill was so damn hi and i couldnt extract one more 1000th of a second out of the pani because i was perfect on every lap then i will drop the 4k. before that slips will be fine.
 
oh scrapperx i was saying if the pipe was ti not stainless i would have done it if it were from termi because i dont want to deal with all the tuning from akra. anyway i have slips more than enough. if i ever need an extra 10 hp to beat someone on the track because my skill was so damn hi and i couldnt extract one more 1000th of a second out of the pani because i was perfect on every lap then i will drop the 4k. before that slips will be fine.

I agree, HP is really over rated and its the perfect lines and riding skills that makes your lap time better. If we were racing like the pros and needed that extra HP to pass someone one the straights to keep your sponsors happy and get that payday that's a different story. I totally agree with you. I guess I just do it because I have nothing better to do :D. I hang out with a bunch of club racers and they constantly tweak our bikes just because it's a hobby.
 
Sorry about that gents!
I went ahead and posted the thread while simultaneously scanning the Dyno printout. Had serious issues with Bluetooth connectivity from my printer to iMac, and got fed up due to late hour. Got it to connect this am and the damn PDF file size was too large. This is best I could do with it.

First run- 174.67 hp
Second run - 179.98 hp :)eek:)
Third run - 177.98 hp


Wish I had this done before the MWR filter was installed by three people a few months ago. That and slips are only mods. Without getting into a debate over air temp, humidity, how tech did this, or any other BS I am pretty damn happy with these numbers and will take it anyday! FlobrandX was present with me to verify the process if questioned. :D

Thanks for posting.....Unfortunately I am disappointed in the HP numbers on a 30K bike with claimed 205HP. The first time I put my 2011 ZX-10r on the Dyno.....it came in at 185HP for half the price......I did reprogram the ECU to remove the EPA restrictions but that was it. My dyno was done by Attack Performance who raced MotoGP today.
 
Thanks for posting.....Unfortunately I am disappointed in the HP numbers on a 30K bike with claimed 205HP. The first time I put my 2011 ZX-10r on the Dyno.....it came in at 185HP for half the price......I did reprogram the ECU to remove the EPA restrictions but that was it. My dyno was done by Attack Performance who raced MotoGP today.

Roadracerx got 189 rwhp and a ton more torque than a Kawi on his 1199 R at the same shop, with an air filter, Termi Pro and no tuning.
 
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