Ran My Tri On Dyno Today !

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TransNone13 said:
I'm pretty sure the "pissing" contest is over. I was fooling with Gunny, the sarcasm got lost in the bits and bytes.
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ahhh, okay :)
I detected a little but then it felt serious. Glad to know we're all happy again :D
(except for Frosty). He=:mad::mad::mad:
 
ScrapperX said:
It really depends on what you are planning to do with the Full system. When I first installed my Full System, it gave me 185.90 HP and increase of about 10 HP from stock. Not only did it gave me more HP at the top but it increased power slightly in the low, mid and high just with the Ducati latest Up map. The 20mm larger diameter does not drop performance as one of Termi's competitor states, but it causes the mid to stay somewhat flat but does not drop. You need the extra 20mm when tuning the engine such as cam's, air intake, higher compression pistons. This engine can really pull some serious air into the engine. The cam timing alone will increase your bikes HP performance significantly more than the exhaust system would ever give. Ive done mine already and the HP increase is crazy stupid and Im waiting on custom built high compression pistons and unfortunately I needed to spend the $3K on the exhaust system that can handle it. The Ti material headers does not give more power it just gives you weight savings but the cost would be tremendous. The HP to cost ratio on a Ti exhaust system to me would insane because the exhaust systems mod gives you the least amount of HP increase but it the most expensive.
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correct me if i am wrong but your exhaust is jet coated. makes a HUGE difference because the SS cant expand from the heat.
 
oh scrapperx i was saying if the pipe was ti not stainless i would have done it if it were from termi because i dont want to deal with all the tuning from akra. anyway i have slips more than enough. if i ever need an extra 10 hp to beat someone on the track because my skill was so damn hi and i couldnt extract one more 1000th of a second out of the pani because i was perfect on every lap then i will drop the 4k. before that slips will be fine.
 
mark419ny said:
oh scrapperx i was saying if the pipe was ti not stainless i would have done it if it were from termi because i dont want to deal with all the tuning from akra. anyway i have slips more than enough. if i ever need an extra 10 hp to beat someone on the track because my skill was so damn hi and i couldnt extract one more 1000th of a second out of the pani because i was perfect on every lap then i will drop the 4k. before that slips will be fine.
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I agree, HP is really over rated and its the perfect lines and riding skills that makes your lap time better. If we were racing like the pros and needed that extra HP to pass someone one the straights to keep your sponsors happy and get that payday that's a different story. I totally agree with you. I guess I just do it because I have nothing better to do :D. I hang out with a bunch of club racers and they constantly tweak our bikes just because it's a hobby.
 
Gunny Fitz said:
Sorry about that gents!
I went ahead and posted the thread while simultaneously scanning the Dyno printout. Had serious issues with Bluetooth connectivity from my printer to iMac, and got fed up due to late hour. Got it to connect this am and the damn PDF file size was too large. This is best I could do with it.

First run- 174.67 hp
Second run - 179.98 hp :)eek:)
Third run - 177.98 hp

Wish I had this done before the MWR filter was installed by three people a few months ago. That and slips are only mods. Without getting into a debate over air temp, humidity, how tech did this, or any other BS I am pretty damn happy with these numbers and will take it anyday! FlobrandX was present with me to verify the process if questioned. :D
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Thanks for posting.....Unfortunately I am disappointed in the HP numbers on a 30K bike with claimed 205HP. The first time I put my 2011 ZX-10r on the Dyno.....it came in at 185HP for half the price......I did reprogram the ECU to remove the EPA restrictions but that was it. My dyno was done by Attack Performance who raced MotoGP today.
 
Socal said:
Thanks for posting.....Unfortunately I am disappointed in the HP numbers on a 30K bike with claimed 205HP. The first time I put my 2011 ZX-10r on the Dyno.....it came in at 185HP for half the price......I did reprogram the ECU to remove the EPA restrictions but that was it. My dyno was done by Attack Performance who raced MotoGP today.
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Roadracerx got 189 rwhp and a ton more torque than a Kawi on his 1199 R at the same shop, with an air filter, Termi Pro and no tuning.
 
Socal said:
Thanks for posting.....Unfortunately I am disappointed in the HP numbers on a 30K bike with claimed 205HP. The first time I put my 2011 ZX-10r on the Dyno.....it came in at 185HP for half the price......I did reprogram the ECU to remove the EPA restrictions but that was it. My dyno was done by Attack Performance who raced MotoGP today.
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Engine HP and measured WHP are not the same thing. Manufacturers do not advertise WHP mainly because it is a smaller number than the BHP (engine power). Also the WHP can be influenced a great deal by the number of things I described in the above post. This way an auto maker can say, this motor makes this much power in all of these vehicles, and you will never ever know if they are actually lying (because drivetrain loss is always estimated, I don't know if there is an actual way you can 100% account for the losses and be completely accurate, but I'm sure some great mathematician out there could do it) unless you take that engine right out of whatever you want to test and put it on an engine dyno, not a chassis dyno.

Also if you're dynoing your bike, make sure the traction control system is disabled and removed, this will effect your whp dramatically as the engine cuts power when it senses that the front wheel is moving slower than the rear wheel.
 
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So, if my run was in 1st gear I should try again in 5th for a more accurate reading?
 
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K3yra7 said:
You sir, before you get the same lashing as EvoL.. I suggest google.

Engine HP and measured WHP are not the same thing. Manufacturers do not advertise WHP mainly because it is a smaller number than the BHP (engine power). Also the WHP can be influenced a great deal by the number of things I described in the above post. This way an auto maker can say, this motor makes this much power in all of these vehicles, and you will never ever know if they are actually lying (because drivetrain loss is always estimated, I don't know if there is an actual way you can 100% account for the losses and be completely accurate, but I'm sure some great mathematician out there could do it) unless you take that engine right out of whatever you want to test and put it on an engine dyno, not a chassis dyno.

Also if you're dynoing your bike, make sure the traction control system is disabled and removed, this will effect your whp dramatically as the engine cuts power when it senses that the front wheel is moving slower than the rear wheel.
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Would you mind turning it down a notch?

Its the INTERNET. There 's noting to prove here.
Most people around here know bikes and especially the 1199. They know that they are talking about WHP and how to set up a panigale for a dyno.

Thanks!
 
Gunny call DNA ASAP!!!

They claimed 195HP on the Panigale. Ask for a refund now.

180HP isn't enough.

Great numbers Brother.:cool:
 
Guys... I have edited this thread and removed certain personal attacks contained therein....

Please respond to the thread and not the person who posts.... Thanks...
 
K3yra7 said:
Engine HP and measured WHP are not the same thing. Manufacturers do not advertise WHP mainly because it is a smaller number than the BHP (engine power). Also the WHP can be influenced a great deal by the number of things I described in the above post. This way an auto maker can say, this motor makes this much power in all of these vehicles, and you will never ever know if they are actually lying (because drivetrain loss is always estimated, I don't know if there is an actual way you can 100% account for the losses and be completely accurate, but I'm sure some great mathematician out there could do it) unless you take that engine right out of whatever you want to test and put it on an engine dyno, not a chassis dyno.

Also if you're dynoing your bike, make sure the traction control system is disabled and removed, this will effect your whp dramatically as the engine cuts power when it senses that the front wheel is moving slower than the rear wheel.
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Hey guy, you seemed to have missed talking from your ... regarding my last post. Can you please address it so I may have a good laugh?

I would love to hear your thoughts on how stupid I am.
 
EvoL said:
Hey guy, you seemed to have missed talking from your ... regarding my last post. Can you please address it so I may have a good laugh?

I would love to hear your thoughts on how stupid I am.
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/Facepalm

You guys should hug and make up <3.
 
Pul- ease !!

All

All i did was post a sheet of paper that had some numbers and a graph on it. Nothing was doctored up or tweaked on either the bike nor dyne at the shop. Matter of fact it was the first time I truly had a conversation with the tech who ran the machine. Personally, I dont really care about the numbers, how much MY OWN bike put out on that day, nor much care about who's bike had more hp, torque, or anything even close to who's bike is faster than who's here OR ANYWHERE for this matter!

There was no need to get this thread so twisted up in personalities, arguments or sarcastic comments! I really dont want any part of that and it does not reflect anything but boredom or ego to go off doing this with each other. If it makes anyone happy I will go ahead and delete everything on the damn thread which I posted and ask the mods to shut it down. No more back and forth "my bike is better than yours" or "these numbers mean nothing" because I dont want to see it. Everyone just needs to chill out and RE - ....... - LAX !!! :cool:
 
Exhaust scavenging.

mark419ny said:
the pipe is 20mm larger this drops performance because the gases expand in side the pipe instead of having it pulled through at a faster pace. i forgot what its called but its like what undertow is. all the water pulling into a smaller opening creates a force. i would have got it if it were same as stock titanium.
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It's called exhaust scavenging.

George Villar
 
SOULRIDER said:
Gunny call DNA ASAP!!!

They claimed 195HP on the Panigale. Ask for a refund now.

180HP isn't enough.

Great numbers Brother.:cool:
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It is not about what is enough.....it is about what you paid for
 
I know that......just responding to the comment that you should not care about the numbers as long as they are "enough". If that was he case, then no one should ride a panigale
 
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