Rear header heat an issue for STK 1000 Racing Panigales?

JeffD · Jul 18, 2013

Thanks to Hawaiiduc for reminding about the Superstock 1000 Race from Assen. For those that haven't watched the 2013 STK 1000 season, the Panigale's have been consistently fighting at the front in STK 1000 vs. their mid-pack showing in SBK. These bikes are far closer to what is on showroom floors vs. the fully-built/tuned SBK class.

I was watching the race on YouTube and at 7:03 you'll hear Eurosport commentator/former racer Jamie Whitham talk about the "asbestos wrapping around the rear header to keep from catching the bike on fire"

Assen 2013 Superstock 1000 Race - YouTube

If true, then it is yet another confirmation of what a complete bonehead design Ducati chose, where even their racebikes are not immune to the heat problem. Not to mention the horrible dyno curves that plague virtually every Panigale I've seen that stays with the "heating coil" header shape under the seat.

gatti man · Jul 18, 2013

Does the zard exhaust fix the issue?

JeffD · Jul 18, 2013

gatti man said:
Does the zard exhaust fix the issue?

I would think that the Zard and any other exhaust that do away with the rear U-shaped header would certainly fix the heat issue. I've read in other threads that the Zard also vastly improved the dyno curve with elimination of the 6K-8K "dip" in the power band.

If you watch the STK 1000 races at various tracks, the Panigales seem to always be more squirrely getting off the corners, while the HP4 is smooth as butter in comparison, even when sliding. Of course, this has a lot do with chassis settings but maybe also the non-smoothness of the power curve has some affect as well?

gatti man · Jul 18, 2013

JeffD said:
I would think that the Zard and any other exhaust that do away with the rear U-shaped header would certainly fix the heat issue. I've read in other threads that the Zard also vastly improved the dyno curve with elimination of the 6K-8K "dip" in the power band.

If you watch the STK 1000 races at various tracks, the Panigales seem to always be more squirrely getting off the corners, while the HP4 is smooth as butter in comparison, even when sliding. Of course, this has a lot do with chassis settings but maybe also the non-smoothness of the power curve has some affect as well?

I think so. The power curve really is small. The 1199 rocks for 4k rpm and that's a small window.

Unfortunately the zard is expensive even when compared to the akro and termi options.

TransNone13 · Jul 19, 2013

Who cares? THat was a great race, thanks for sharing.

Picklesp · Jul 19, 2013

How can the 1199 look that good in super stock but in wsbk it so far behind ?? What do you think these super stock are putting down at the rear tire for HP ?? Man that was a hell of a race ! Very very fun to watch

kope999R · Jul 19, 2013

SSTK is 205 bhp rear with 1500 km full rebuild. WSBK is 220/235 bhp at the wheel with Aprilia roumored to carry 4 engines to a WSBK weekend.. All the engine has to do is make it to the end of the 25 lap race. Even to last 1 race , there is almost nothing stock on a WSBK engine . ALmost everything is diffferent grade aluminium and internals are redesigned ( sleeves, cams, ... )

for the rest it's all electronics and how to get that power to the ground... 30% of 140K price RS is Magnetti Marelli stuff that just gets the bike rolling, all the rest is to be done from schratch. If you by an RS, in fact you by it almost empty.

SSTK is stock swingarms, WSBK is special swingarms - much stiffer prob bit longer to -SSTK is stock suspension with different internals, WSBK is , like GP, full factory suspension, 90% ohlins. Especially rear is far from the TTX available. The FGR front is readily available at 15K+ vat.

it takes a 100K/season service schedule to maintain them and get some support.

as a comparison, on some tracks, WSBK is almost as fast as a motogp bike. they lenghten Aragon to make sure times cant be compared in full as they want GP to remain queen ...

kope999R · Jul 19, 2013

btw : that is what it is to ride a pani as a beast... greatest race in a looooong time...

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