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Hi all I have a big problem with seat height and its gona get a heap worse when my comfort seat arrives so my question is this why done owners with same problem simply adjust the rear suspension linkage to lower height I know geo will change from factory setting but any one thing of any other problem or has anyone changed it just seems easier than buy adjustable link I've seen on net PLEASE comment if you have any info
 
Hi all I have a big problem with seat height and its gona get a heap worse when my comfort seat arrives so my question is this why done owners with same problem simply adjust the rear suspension linkage to lower height I know geo will change from factory setting but any one thing of any other problem or has anyone changed it just seems easier than buy adjustable link I've seen on net PLEASE comment if you have any info

Hi mate.
I tried adjusting the rear height and it just slowed my steering up so much so I actually noticed it. So I put it back to where it was after my sag was set.

Anyway, I read a post on hear about a guy who pulled the rubber bungs out the std seat and I did the same when I put the lumimoto cover on my std seat and also put the gold gel in.

Helped me out for seat height. My 2 cents.
 
If you already have a problem with the seat height (AKA both feet cannot touch the ground at a minimum with the balls of your feet), then the comfort seat will leave you teeter tottering at stops. Stops on sloped surface and dips will cause you issues as well if you are not experienced with tippy toeing or riding dirt bikes. It would be more optimal to refinish the original seat instead. JMO. Your more expensive path requires getting the bike setup by a suspension specialist to make the bike manageable for you. JMO, YMMV
 
If you already have a problem with the seat height (AKA both feet cannot touch the ground at a minimum with the balls of your feet), then the comfort seat will leave you teeter tottering at stops. Stops on sloped surface and dips will cause you issues as well if you are not experienced with tippy toeing or riding dirt bikes. It would be more optimal to refinish the original seat instead. JMO. Your more expensive path requires getting the bike setup by a suspension specialist to make the bike manageable for you. JMO, YMMV

You shouldn't need to be duck footing around, per proper riding techniques. 1 foot on the ground works just fine. Friend of mine is 4'11 and embarrasses everyone a Husky 450 which is ridiculously tall.
 
Omg, look she isn't falling over because she knows how to ride. Here's my friend on her 'short' gixxer.

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Yes, she's freaking tiny...

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Any time people whine about seat height, I can only think of my friend. She's doing it without any sand in her vagina....just learn to operate a motorcycle better, and you'll be fine.
 
I agree, but skill is important

I agree, but skill is important. The OP states the overwhelming feeling he has about the seat he is about to get, which indicates that he is seeking knowledge on how to go about it. Check this out, I am 30 inch inseam and only 5'5". With my mountain combat boots my balls (of my feet that is.. my actual balls are pinned on the tank) are pressed against the ground. Because of my experience dealing with tall seated bikes and bicycles I have confidence and understand the dynamics of dealing with the situation of lean against slopes and dips. What if downslope is to the left and his right leg is on the peg? Surely he will have a problem trying to brace 400lbs on a downslope left leg. OP heed the advice and get skills if you need them for short riders or you will drop your Pani. Dips, same situation, don't stop over them because you will not be able to brace the bike except at a great lean and then drop :(

You shouldn't need to be duck footing around, per proper riding techniques. 1 foot on the ground works just fine. Friend of mine is 4'11 and embarrasses everyone a Husky 450 which is ridiculously tall.
 
on a track with gentle slopes and always moving, seat height becomes a function of riding geometry and can ignore stop situations to a large degree, except when recovering from a fall or off balance low speed situation. You racer types can talk more to this I'm sure.
 
If you want to adjust your seatheight...there is an adjustment nut and lock nut right before the rear spring preload adjuster ring. That is where you adjust to lower or raise your seat height. Do not touch any rear shock linkage....just that adjustment nut and lock nut. Thats it.

Note: Lowering your ride height (lower than stock settings) slows your steering while lifting it (higher than stock settings) quickens it... and adds instability to the bike.
 
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Hi all I have a big problem with seat height and its gona get a heap worse when my comfort seat arrives so my question is this why done owners with same problem simply adjust the rear suspension linkage to lower height I know geo will change from factory setting but any one thing of any other problem or has anyone changed it just seems easier than buy adjustable link I've seen on net PLEASE comment if you have any info

Go to a suspension specialist and get help from them. They will know how much you can drop the front and rear without compromising the handling.
In short, you can drop it about an inch, before anything drastic starts to happen. You will also have less clearance at full lean into a corner.

I would strongly advise against using the comfort or race seats. Go visit Luimoto if the OE seat is too hard for you.
Also, wearing boots with a bigger sole helps.. something like the Dainese Cafe Boots.
 
If you lower the rear (using the locking nut), you drop the forks in the triple trees also to counter act this, thus not altering the head angle, (it drops the bike down only) trust me, I am 5ft 5in also and have recovered my seat with my own brand grippy cover and have no issues. But I use the hang off the side with one foot down method, my motard I had to jump off it, and jump on releasing the clutch as unable to reach the ground. Best money spent, go to a tech and get it set it to you height and weight.
 
Go to a suspension specialist and get help from them. They will know how much you can drop the front and rear without compromising the handling.
In short, you can drop it about an inch, before anything drastic starts to happen. You will also have less clearance at full lean into a corner.

I would strongly advise against using the comfort or race seats. Go visit Luimoto if the OE seat is too hard for you.
Also, wearing boots with a bigger sole helps.. something like the Dainese Cafe Boots.


Don,t know about dropping an inch without anything drastic. I lowered mine about 1 cm at the rear and noticed a big difference. Thats why I went back to where it had been. YMMV.
 
Don,t know about dropping an inch without anything drastic. I lowered mine about 1 cm at the rear and noticed a big difference. Thats why I went back to where it had been. YMMV.

That's why I suggested going to a suspension specialist ;)
You can't just drop the rear without dropping the front, and there is only so much you can drop the front before you risk clearance issues at full compression.

Typically it should only cost about 1k to get the full works treatment.
Springs, Valving and setup.
Money well spent to have a bike setup correctly.:D

Btw... when you say 1cm, are you referring to 1cm of thread at the end of the shock shaft or 1cm of ride height. The inch I'm referring to is ride height.
 
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If you want to adjust your seatheight...there is an adjustment nut and lock nut right before the rear spring preload adjuster ring. That is where you adjust to lower or raise your seat height. Do not touch any rear shock linkage....just that adjustment nut and lock nut. Thats it.

Note: Lowering your ride height (lower than stock settings) slows your steering while lifting it (higher than stock settings) quickens it... and adds instability to the bike.

+ 2 ! :) slower steering is very relative on a pani. And added stability is not a bad thing to have to some riders . And surely feeling secure on your bike and feeling confident will impact your riding immensly . I d give both options a try and pick the one that fits u best . Blind testing at moto rapido had most testers prefer the -4 setting using the exenter on the R . -4 on the R being -5 on the base. So i wouldn t dread giving it a try .. Success!
 
You don't need two feet on the ground. When you come to a stop slide off the seat slightly to the side you put your foot down on.
 
You don't need two feet on the ground. When you come to a stop slide off the seat slightly to the side you put your foot down on.

That may be ok for when you come to a stop at traffic lights etc.. But for really low speed manoeuvring, particularly in reverse, eg parking in tight spots. Having both feet able to comfortably touch the ground can be the difference between having to hop off and park her or laying her down.
 
As Carl noted above, if you're dropping one end just do the other the same amount to keep the rake/trail from being affected. Not sure about the S, but you can't do much more than about 5-6mm more at the front on a base without the fender hitting the fairing. Mine's at -5mm front and -4mm rear at the moment, not for getting feet down which was no issue to begin with, but for overall handling (CoG) purposes. Still testing and tweaking, so it will move around some more (probably back up a smidge at the rear first), but you can drop 5-6mm at both ends with no issues; it's free and it's easy.

If you're really wanting to go lower for feet-down purposes, I'd say abandon the comfort seat idea straight away and look at reshaping/recovering the stock seat so that it would be lower. That and a small ride height drop would give far better overall results than ruining the handling with a big drop at the rear. Again, you don't have much to work with at the front.
 
That may be ok for when you come to a stop at traffic lights etc.. But for really low speed manoeuvring, particularly in reverse, eg parking in tight spots. Having both feet able to comfortably touch the ground can be the difference between having to hop off and park her or laying her down.

That's when you hop off the bike and walk it. Other short people manage without dropping their bike.
 
As Carl noted above, if you're dropping one end just do the other the same amount to keep the rake/trail from being affected. Not sure about the S, but you can't do much more than about 5-6mm more at the front on a base without the fender hitting the fairing. Mine's at -5mm front and -4mm rear at the moment, not for getting feet down which was no issue to begin with, but for overall handling (CoG) purposes. Still testing and tweaking, so it will move around some more (probably back up a smidge at the rear first), but you can drop 5-6mm at both ends with no issues; it's free and it's easy.

If you're really wanting to go lower for feet-down purposes, I'd say abandon the comfort seat idea straight away and look at reshaping/recovering the stock seat so that it would be lower. That and a small ride height drop would give far better overall results than ruining the handling with a big drop at the rear. Again, you don't have much to work with at the front.

In dropping the bike you are screwing with many things...even if you drop it equally the wheelbase has lengthened and that alone will affect the bikes geometry...
 

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