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I did get this email back from the guys in England that sold me the Sicom’s.

Not super helpful but perhaps telling of SOMETHING.

I’m wonder if the GP4-MS can use the same pads as the Stylema

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I just picked up a set of SICOM’s today from BellissiMoto, and I’m running the SICOM pads as well. Would you mind sharing the bedding process?
 
I just picked up a set of SICOM’s today from BellissiMoto, and I’m running the SICOM pads as well. Would you mind sharing the bedding process?
I also have a set of SICOM rotors and I stressed over the correct pads and bedding in. After many hours searching for the correct info, it appears that SIMCO & Brake Tech ceramic rotors use the same process. I couldn't find the SICOM, but here's what Brake Tech says for their ceramic rotors (AXIS/CMC). I have these Brake Tech ceramic rotors on another bike & they work the same. I think the SICOM look cooler. I also installed new Brembo Stylema calipers & the RCS Corsacorta RR clutch & master cylinders. I can't ride fast enough to notice a difference between dragging my feet & super duper brakes, so my opinion doesn't count for much.
"BREAK-IN:
The new AXIS/CMC full-floaters require a special bed-in procedure, which when properly administered, takes place very rapidly. Using the requisite Ferodo brake pads, apply the brakes with progressively greater pressure over a series of 10-20 applications. You will quite literally feel the brakes coming in at the lever, as they do, increase the applied braking force to near maximum in a safe area. It is crucially important to create an even transfer film layer from the friction material to the swept area of the rotor. When this has been accomplished, and it shouldn’t take long, you’re good to go!"
As you may have noticed, the proper brake pads is a little confusing & expensive. After much research, I found that FERODO FDB2260CP211 are the correct front brake pads for the SICOM front rotors.
I found that the break-in was not a big deal. Just start off easy & gradually get more aggressive. They feel great. I found the trickiest part was centering the disk in the brake calipers. I had to add 5mm spacers between new SIMCO rotors and the hub. You also may need to remove or add a different spacer between the fork & caliper. If the caliper is spaced to far from the fork, the brakes still work, but the pads won't be contacting the optimal part of the disk. I had the beautiful Ducati Performance cooling ducts on my old rotors. Then I noticed the pads weren't making the optimal contact with the SICOM disk, & had to remove the cooling ducts.
 
I also have a set of SICOM rotors and I stressed over the correct pads and bedding in. After many hours searching for the correct info, it appears that SIMCO & Brake Tech ceramic rotors use the same process. I couldn't find the SICOM, but here's what Brake Tech says for their ceramic rotors (AXIS/CMC). I have these Brake Tech ceramic rotors on another bike & they work the same. I think the SICOM look cooler. I also installed new Brembo Stylema calipers & the RCS Corsacorta RR clutch & master cylinders. I can't ride fast enough to notice a difference between dragging my feet & super duper brakes, so my opinion doesn't count for much.
"BREAK-IN:
The new AXIS/CMC full-floaters require a special bed-in procedure, which when properly administered, takes place very rapidly. Using the requisite Ferodo brake pads, apply the brakes with progressively greater pressure over a series of 10-20 applications. You will quite literally feel the brakes coming in at the lever, as they do, increase the applied braking force to near maximum in a safe area. It is crucially important to create an even transfer film layer from the friction material to the swept area of the rotor. When this has been accomplished, and it shouldn’t take long, you’re good to go!"
As you may have noticed, the proper brake pads is a little confusing & expensive. After much research, I found that FERODO FDB2260CP211 are the correct front brake pads for the SICOM front rotors.
I found that the break-in was not a big deal. Just start off easy & gradually get more aggressive. They feel great. I found the trickiest part was centering the disk in the brake calipers. I had to add 5mm spacers between new SIMCO rotors and the hub. You also may need to remove or add a different spacer between the fork & caliper. If the caliper is spaced to far from the fork, the brakes still work, but the pads won't be contacting the optimal part of the disk. I had the beautiful Ducati Performance cooling ducts on my old rotors. Then I noticed the pads weren't making the optimal contact with the SICOM disk, & had to remove the cooling ducts.
Thanks for this. It was super helpful.
 
The key with the Sicoms is to transfer material from the pads to the rotors using a heat cycling process. Basically you just drag the brakes a lot without letting the motorcycle come to a complete stop at increasing speeds.

I find it best to CAREFULLY drag the brake lever while maintaining some speed to heat them up really well, over and over, and then ride it a bit so the material cools a bit before you come to a complete stop.

The SICOM rotors are a completely different material and technology than the braketech stuff, not the same process or pads.
 
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DO NOT USE ANY OTHER PADS THAN THE SICOM PADS THAT COME WITH THE ROTORS….as they are chemically engineered to pass material back and forth between rotors and pads properly…. which also means the pads never wear out and the rotors never wear out.
 
The key with the Sicoms is to transfer material from the pads to the rotors using a heat cycling process. Basically you just drag the brakes a lot without letting the motorcycle come to a complete stop at increasing speeds.

I find it best to CAREFULLY drag the brake lever while maintaining some speed to heat them up really well, over and over, and then ride it a bit so the material cools a bit before you come to a complete stop.

The SICOM rotors are a completely different material and technology than the braketech stuff, not the same process or pads.
Thank you for the bedding process information and the additional pointers. I’m eager to try these rotors out.
 
Thank you for the bedding process information and the additional pointers. I’m eager to try these rotors out.

I love em…super hard to get, impossible these days…they brake twice as well once properly bedded. And wait until you feel how much better the bike flips side to side with those on?

What brake MC are you using?
 
I love em…super hard to get, impossible these days…they brake twice as well once properly bedded. And wait until you feel how much better the bike flips side to side with those on?

What brake MC are you using?
Yeah, I happened to run across Randy’s video and gave BellissiMoto a call. Surprisingly he answered……..on a Sunday. I wasn’t too far from the shop, so I drove over to check them out. I couldn’t pass them up. Saving 5 lbs. from the OEM Brembo rotors is not to be understated. These things are phenomenally light. My entire front wheel/tire/rotor assembly feels like it weighs nothing.

I still have the OEM V4 MC, but I’m considering upgrading after I install the TTX that is en route from Ohlins. I did the FGRT 231 forks Friday night.
 

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Yeah upgrade to the Corsa Corta Brake MC. The stock one is too spongy for the Sicom rotors. Adjust the Corsa Corta to the Race setting. Then the bite is perfect on the Sicons
 
Yeah upgrade to the Corsa Corta Brake MC. The stock one is too spongy for the Sicom rotors. Adjust the Corsa Corta to the Race setting. Then the bite is perfect on the Sicons
Ok I’ll check it out. Did you purchase the 17mm or 19mm? Where did you purchase yours?
 
Brembo 17RCS Corsa Corta


Google that, everybody sells them for about the same price.

Bellissimoto has them I believe.

I don’t remember where I got mine.
 

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