Sicom Rotors/Pads

Steven31371 said:

I did get this email back from the guys in England that sold me the Sicom’s.

Not super helpful but perhaps telling of SOMETHING.

I’m wonder if the GP4-MS can use the same pads as the Stylema

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M3Inline6 said:

I just picked up a set of SICOM’s today from BellissiMoto, and I’m running the SICOM pads as well. Would you mind sharing the bedding process?

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VYRUS said:

I also have a set of SICOM rotors and I stressed over the correct pads and bedding in. After many hours searching for the correct info, it appears that SIMCO & Brake Tech ceramic rotors use the same process. I couldn't find the SICOM, but here's what Brake Tech says for their ceramic rotors (AXIS/CMC). I have these Brake Tech ceramic rotors on another bike & they work the same. I think the SICOM look cooler. I also installed new Brembo Stylema calipers & the RCS Corsacorta RR clutch & master cylinders. I can't ride fast enough to notice a difference between dragging my feet & super duper brakes, so my opinion doesn't count for much.
"BREAK-IN:
The new AXIS/CMC full-floaters require a special bed-in procedure, which when properly administered, takes place very rapidly. Using the requisite Ferodo brake pads, apply the brakes with progressively greater pressure over a series of 10-20 applications. You will quite literally feel the brakes coming in at the lever, as they do, increase the applied braking force to near maximum in a safe area. It is crucially important to create an even transfer film layer from the friction material to the swept area of the rotor. When this has been accomplished, and it shouldn’t take long, you’re good to go!"
As you may have noticed, the proper brake pads is a little confusing & expensive. After much research, I found that FERODO FDB2260CP211 are the correct front brake pads for the SICOM front rotors.
I found that the break-in was not a big deal. Just start off easy & gradually get more aggressive. They feel great. I found the trickiest part was centering the disk in the brake calipers. I had to add 5mm spacers between new SIMCO rotors and the hub. You also may need to remove or add a different spacer between the fork & caliper. If the caliper is spaced to far from the fork, the brakes still work, but the pads won't be contacting the optimal part of the disk. I had the beautiful Ducati Performance cooling ducts on my old rotors. Then I noticed the pads weren't making the optimal contact with the SICOM disk, & had to remove the cooling ducts.

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Steven31371 said:

The key with the Sicoms is to transfer material from the pads to the rotors using a heat cycling process. Basically you just drag the brakes a lot without letting the motorcycle come to a complete stop at increasing speeds.

I find it best to CAREFULLY drag the brake lever while maintaining some speed to heat them up really well, over and over, and then ride it a bit so the material cools a bit before you come to a complete stop.

The SICOM rotors are a completely different material and technology than the braketech stuff, not the same process or pads.

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M3Inline6 said:

Thank you for the bedding process information and the additional pointers. I’m eager to try these rotors out.

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Steven31371 said:

I love em…super hard to get, impossible these days…they brake twice as well once properly bedded. And wait until you feel how much better the bike flips side to side with those on?

What brake MC are you using?

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Steven31371 said:

Yeah upgrade to the Corsa Corta Brake MC. The stock one is too spongy for the Sicom rotors. Adjust the Corsa Corta to the Race setting. Then the bite is perfect on the Sicons

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Steven31371 said:

Brembo 17RCS Corsa Corta


Google that, everybody sells them for about the same price.

Bellissimoto has them I believe.

I don’t remember where I got mine.

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VYRUS said:

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This is the newest Brembo brake and clutch master cylinders you’re talking about. The correct brake MC depends on your caliper. The 19 has been out for a while, but the 17 has only recently been readily available. I waited 9 months for the 17. I also had to replace the stock switches for enough clearance for the brake MC. The mounting bracket for relocating the right side switch can also be a little tricky. I found the bracket at bikesportdevelopment.co.uk. They also had the new switch. I’m sure there must be other places who sell them.
Maybe you have an answer for one thing I’ve noticed. The brake pads only connect about 60% of the front rotors. I don’t have any spacers on the front calipers. I have new Ohlins FGRT 210 forks with new Brembo Stylema calipers. I must be missing something. I don’t see why the pads don’t make full contact with the disk? The brakes feel fine, but I’m sure they would work better with 100% contact.

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VYRUS said:

View attachment 58099
This is the newest Brembo brake and clutch master cylinders you’re talking about. The correct brake MC depends on your caliper. The 19 has been out for a while, but the 17 has only recently been readily available. I waited 9 months for the 17. I also had to replace the stock switches for enough clearance for the brake MC. The mounting bracket for relocating the right side switch can also be a little tricky. I found the bracket at bikesportdevelopment.co.uk. They also had the new switch. I’m sure there must be other places who sell them.
Maybe you have an answer for one thing I’ve noticed. The brake pads only connect about 60% of the front rotors. I don’t have any spacers on the front calipers. I have new Ohlins FGRT 210 forks with new Brembo Stylema calipers. I must be missing something. I don’t see why the pads don’t make full contact with the disk? The brakes feel fine, but I’m sure they would work better with 100% contact.

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