Sub 3.0 secs to 60

LethalBrizzle · Jun 5, 2015

Can anyone out there comment on how best to get the bike off the line? I find I need to slip the clutch quite a bit when setting off and then carefully manage the wheel spin and the nose coming up. However, easy or particular quick, it isn't. At least for me. I've been running with TC on 4, so this might not help - I've noticed the yellow light before.

Any advice welcome.

Phl · Jun 5, 2015

clutch.

if you want to manage the right revs to get it rolling and then control the throttle, well, that would take a few years of practice.

Gecko · Jun 5, 2015

wouldn't DWC help?

duckyduc · Jun 5, 2015

nope. you would keep bouncing up and down, WC and LC works very differently

LethalBrizzle · Jun 5, 2015

Do we have Wheelie Control?

JArnold · Jun 5, 2015

Wouldn't one of the Race Module tuners (Rexxer, TB, RB, etc.) have a launch control function... Maybe that would help with all of that.

I know that my friend has all those features available to him on his 4th Gen ZX-10R via his Woolich (sp?) flash kit.

Phl · Jun 5, 2015

LethalBrizzle said:
Do we have Wheelie Control?

no.

just the 1299.

at the strip i got the best launches with DTC off, revs at 8-9k and clutching it.

AntiHero · Jun 8, 2015

LethalBrizzle said:
Do we have Wheelie Control?

Not officially. (Not unofficially, either.) But there is something built in that keeps the front end more planted in certain circumstances.

Go out, ride conservatively, then whack the throttle open in second gear around 6k rpm. The bike will want to loop.

Go out, ride very aggressively (in the hills, at the track, etc.). Then whack the throttle in 2nd. It will behave very, very differently than it did in the circumstances above.

I do not know if this is an intended wheelie control or if it's simply the by-product of some other electronic wizardry, but it's there--my guess is to make the bike a little more manageable on the track under racing circumstances.

jyli19 · Jun 10, 2015

there is built in wheelie control in your right wrist.

NOLA · Jun 10, 2015

AntiHero said:
Not officially. (Not unofficially, either.) But there is something built in that keeps the front end more planted in certain circumstances.

Go out, ride conservatively, then whack the throttle open in second gear around 6k rpm. The bike will want to loop.

Go out, ride very aggressively (in the hills, at the track, etc.). Then whack the throttle in 2nd. It will behave very, very differently than it did in the circumstances above.

I do not know if this is an intended wheelie control or if it's simply the by-product of some other electronic wizardry, but it's there--my guess is to make the bike a little more manageable on the track under racing circumstances.

This is how they do the wizardry !"¦.its Magiccccccc"¦..and you don't like ittttttt"¦.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJiUVp890TY

NOLA

desmotesta · Jun 15, 2015

AntiHero said:
Not officially. (Not unofficially, either.) But there is something built in that keeps the front end more planted in certain circumstances.

Go out, ride conservatively, then whack the throttle open in second gear around 6k rpm. The bike will want to loop.

Go out, ride very aggressively (in the hills, at the track, etc.). Then whack the throttle in 2nd. It will behave very, very differently than it did in the circumstances above.

I do not know if this is an intended wheelie control or if it's simply the by-product of some other electronic wizardry, but it's there--my guess is to make the bike a little more manageable on the track under racing circumstances.

I beg to differ.

I believe what you are describing is garden variety heat soak.

We have all owned bikes and cars that run great in cool temperatures, bikes that power wheelie in 3rd gear early in the morning but run like dog .... when you have just spent 15 mins stuck in traffic.
The reason the bike wheelies like crazy when you have just been taking it easy vs no wheelie after a hard charge through the canyons... Heat robs engine of a lot of power. Up to 10% in some cases (I can find and attach dyno sheet of my E39 M5... 17 RWHP more when it was allowed to "cool" for just 15 mins)
There is no proof of wheelie control of any sort on the 1199

My 2 cents

jjsC6 · Jun 15, 2015

AntiHero said:
Not officially. (Not unofficially, either.) But there is something built in that keeps the front end more planted in certain circumstances.

Go out, ride conservatively, then whack the throttle open in second gear around 6k rpm. The bike will want to loop.

Go out, ride very aggressively (in the hills, at the track, etc.). Then whack the throttle in 2nd. It will behave very, very differently than it did in the circumstances above.

I do not know if this is an intended wheelie control or if it's simply the by-product of some other electronic wizardry, but it's there--my guess is to make the bike a little more manageable on the track under racing circumstances.

That implies some sort of fuzzy logic learning mode. I have never heard of that on a bike. Any chance it's just the heat having some effect?

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