Superleggera or V4?

So which would you take given the chance?

Superleggera for sure

Used superleggera are approaching the price if the new speciale

I am on the same boat... But I would wait till V4R comes out before decide what I really want. By that time the price of 1299SL will be down, where 1199SL will be in upper 30s

Have you ridden a Superleggera (either one)? It's not about the power; it's the weight that makes all the difference in the world. I would never replace my 1199 Superleggera for any V4. When they eventually make a V4 Superleggera, I'll probably add one. In the meantime there is just no comparison for a sub 350lb bike that puts out 190rwhp. I feel the lack of weight everywhere, even just pushing it around the garage.

In fact, I hope that the V4 pushes 1299SL prices down to sub $50k for a low mileage one because I'll add one of those, too. I won't replace my 1199SL with it but the two would go together (and the V4 SL when they eventually build that).

Sherpa23 said:

Have you ridden a Superleggera (either one)? It's not about the power; it's the weight that makes all the difference in the world. I would never replace my 1199 Superleggera for any V4. When they eventually make a V4 Superleggera, I'll probably add one. In the meantime there is just no comparison for a sub 350lb bike that puts out 190rwhp. I feel the lack of weight everywhere, even just pushing it around the garage.

In fact, I hope that the V4 pushes 1299SL prices down to sub $50k for a low mileage one because I'll add one of those, too. I won't replace my 1199SL with it but the two would go together (and the V4 SL when they eventually build that).

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I've not ridden one, just lusted over them since they came out. Still crazy expensive, but approaching my budget now if I went with a used 1199sl. Always hard to tell without being able to ride it if it's worth that much moolah. I know it's awesome

Sherpa23 said:

Have you ridden a Superleggera (either one)? It's not about the power; it's the weight that makes all the difference in the world. I would never replace my 1199 Superleggera for any V4. When they eventually make a V4 Superleggera, I'll probably add one. In the meantime there is just no comparison for a sub 350lb bike that puts out 190rwhp. I feel the lack of weight everywhere, even just pushing it around the garage.

In fact, I hope that the V4 pushes 1299SL prices down to sub $50k for a low mileage one because I'll add one of those, too. I won't replace my 1199SL with it but the two would go together (and the V4 SL when they eventually build that).

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i second this. The weight is everything. Then again, i would have major anxiety about replacing parts if it ever goes down...

Nothing beats the Superleggera feeling


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I would rather a 1199SL anyday

Panigale78R said:

Nothing beats the Superleggera feeling

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Great image by the way.

SL 1199 for me when they get to my price range

1199 sl.

I have the luck and priviledge of owning both a 1199 and 1299 SL as track bikes and both are incredible ..


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gnance said:

So which would you take given the chance?

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So compare the best version of the Panigale to a version no one has ridden yet, and can't possibly compete with power-to-weight ratio-wise? Sounds like a loaded question to me. Pretty pointless.

Reading some of these responses, I figured I should chime in with my opinion on this whole thing. Again, it's just my opinion so take it for what it is.

I have been lucky enough to own a fair amount of Ducati's, including one of the RS race bikes. I am not really someone to add the latest and newest but I think that I have a good idea when something is special. I have what I consider to be some of the best Ducati Superbikes ever made (yes, there are a couple more that I will hopefully add in time) and my 1199 Superleggera is definitely one of them. It is a very special bike and it's obvious every time I take it out for a ride. It's robust enough to useable but cutting edge enough that you can't help but understand how special it is.

As time goes on I suspect people will start to understand more and more what an incredibly epic bike this is. Over time, the V4's that were unveiled will become just another nice Ducati while bikes like the two Superleggeras will become more and more legendary.

I don't have a crystal ball on where prices will go. However, given the laws of supply and demand, I just don't see where the Superleggera gets much cheaper than they are now (let's say $42k for a well kept 1,000 mile example). They are just way too much bike for the money. If Ducati follows Ferrari's example and puts out a limited lightweight version near the end of the product runs that combine the virtues of the street and race bikes into a raw, aggressive, lightweight street version, I don't see how they don't continue to grow in stature over time and that alone will keep prices from falling much from where they are now.

Just my thoughts but for everyone who keeps saying they will buy one when they get cheap, I don't think that they will ever get cheap.

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Just my thoughts but for everyone who keeps saying they will buy one when they get cheap, I don't think that they will ever get cheap.

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Oh well another dream of mine destroyed

able duc said:

Oh well another dream of mine destroyed

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You know you can buy one now. No, they're not cheap but they sure are cheaper. Besides, is it worth missing the next 5 year of riding one to save $5k or whatever less it will be?

I bought mine with 62 miles on it and I paid a hell of a lot less than if I was the first owner. I'm glad I didn't wait a minute longer.

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Just my thoughts but for everyone who keeps saying they will buy one when they get cheap, I don't think that they will ever get cheap.

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Its a depreciating asset it will come down, seen a desmosedici RR for 65K

Halo2 said:

Its a depreciating asset it will come down, seen a desmosedici RR for 65K

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Well I have news for you: it's not going to depreciate on a straight line basis to zero. It has an intrinsic value that's tied to supply and demand. They were $72k new. You can buy a 500 mile one for $45k now. That's plenty of depreciation already and a good buy. It's a fool's errand to wait for a pristine 500 mile bike to get to $10k because, in your words, "it's a depreciating asset it will come down."

Desmosedicis have been out for 10 years and are hard to sell. Yet you still can't get a decent one under $45k. Let me know when you can buy a good one for $10k. I won't hold my breath.

i think the 1199sl has bottomed at $40ish and i would buy one over the V4, i'm so tempted to do it but i want the new R.

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Well I have news for you: it's not going to depreciate on a straight line basis to zero. It has an intrinsic value that's tied to supply and demand. They were $72k new. You can buy a 500 mile one for $45k now. That's plenty of depreciation already and a good buy. It's a fool's errand to wait for a pristine 500 mile bike to get to $10k because, in your words, "it's a depreciating asset it will come down."

Desmosedicis have been out for 10 years and are hard to sell. Yet you still can't get a decent one under $45k. Let me know when you can buy a good one for $10k. I won't hold my breath.

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I was talking AUD, here I believe they were 120K new and I never said it would get down to 10K......