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Since we've established that these bikes are only for track use, does anyone REALLY notice this "smoother/better" fueling while at speed? Or is this a Starbucks run thing? I haven't noticed any fueling problems with a stock V4 while on track. The only fueling "problem" I've ever noticed is from the initial crack of throttle off a stop and that could be attributed to the unrefined notchy plastic throttle tube setup.
 
Off throttle at low speed is not the smoothest, noticeable on the street but on track it's nothing to be concerned about. There are definite benefits reported by people who get their bikes tuned properly for the pipe they stick on but there are a number of tuning companies out there who capitalise on people thinking that they automatically need a pipe and a tune! The reality is that there is absolutely nothing wrong with the stock set up for most people most of the time, but hey if you want to go and spend 1000 bucks on tuning add-ons to drive to Starbucks be my guest.
 
Odd replies here.

Not sure where the entertainment and ........ notes come from but there's no other people tuning these bikes and working with factory level engineers like we are. There are tons of guys tuning these bikes and nudging fuel and other small changes which works in a small capacity but not to our extent. We have a massive understanding of the factory computer and logic that no one else here does. We can interject a lot of useful information to these forums. We've worked on lots of custom features that people have requested and have had a ton of positive feedback on our V4 products across the board for years.

So if you want to share the ........ and entertainment portion I'm happy to clear it up.

You do realize that you guys don’t exactly have the best track record or reputation with Ducati enthusiasts right?

My guess is that you are a knew sales rep with Bren and don’t know the actual history and reputation of the company with KNOWLEDGABLE Ducati guys, and that you wholeheartedly believe your company’s training and orientation materials.

Your tunes have a reputation for being under-cooked canned tunes that are beset with glitchiness without much refinement or riding improvements.

There are people on here, myself included, that have used your company’s tunes and others tunes on the same bike, and yours are junk compared to other tuners like Deussen. Who puts out an incredibly detail and refined tune.

Unfortunately you are coming to a forum where people have real world experience with the severely lacking Bren tunes IN REAL LIFE.

Your real world reputation is so bad that when a new Ducati owner comes here that bought a Bren tune before we have a chance to educate them we all kind give a collective sigh and think to ourselves: “Another one suckered into the Bren tune marketing machine…before we could inform them…poor guy.”

That’s the reputation you have to deal with here….you could over come it by actually starting to provide high quality detailed sophisticated tunes that work well for our members in real life, and over come your bad reputation…but that’s gunna take a lot of work on your company’s part, and you don’t add to your credibility when you say things like “we are the only ones providing great tunes” when many of us know from DIRECT experience that there are in fact MUCH better tunes out there than your firm has typically supplied.

So if you want to sell tunes here, don’t START by making demonstrably false claims lol
 
I tried both brentuning and the competitor from Germany. I have had a full akra undertail exhaust with the ducati tuning. I didn't dyno measure my motorcycle. Brentuning made the bike so fun and easy to ride, smooth probably mich better for someone who wants to use it for circuit. I personally prefer the Brentuning.
No significant change with the other tune.

You are literally the only person in the world to say that…some affiliation with BrenTuning?
 
You do realize that you guys don’t exactly have the best track record or reputation with Ducati enthusiasts right?

My guess is that you are a knew sales rep with Bren and don’t know the actual history and reputation of the company with KNOWLEDGABLE Ducati guys, and that you wholeheartedly believe your company’s training and orientation materials.

Your tunes have a reputation for being under-cooked canned tunes that are beset with glitchiness without much refinement or riding improvements.

There are people on here, myself included, that have used your company’s tunes and others tunes on the same bike, and yours are junk compared to other tuners like Deussen. Who puts out an incredibly detail and refined tune.

Unfortunately you are coming to a forum where people have real world experience with the severely lacking Bren tunes IN REAL LIFE.

Your real world reputation is so bad that when a new Ducati owner comes here that bought a Bren tune before we have a chance to educate them we all kind give a collective sigh and think to ourselves: “Another one suckered into the Bren tune marketing machine…before we could inform them…poor guy.”

That’s the reputation you have to deal with here….you could over come it by actually starting to provide high quality detailed sophisticated tunes that work well for our members in real life, and over come your bad reputation…but that’s gunna take a lot of work on your company’s part, and you don’t add to your credibility when you say things like “we are the only ones providing great tunes” when many of us know from DIRECT experience that there are in fact MUCH better tunes out there than your firm has typically supplied.

So if you want to sell tunes here, don’t START by making demonstrably false claims lol

You are funny
 
You do realize that you guys don’t exactly have the best track record or reputation with Ducati enthusiasts right?

My guess is that you are a knew sales rep with Bren and don’t know the actual history and reputation of the company with KNOWLEDGABLE Ducati guys, and that you wholeheartedly believe your company’s training and orientation materials.

Your tunes have a reputation for being under-cooked canned tunes that are beset with glitchiness without much refinement or riding improvements.

There are people on here, myself included, that have used your company’s tunes and others tunes on the same bike, and yours are junk compared to other tuners like Deussen. Who puts out an incredibly detail and refined tune.

Unfortunately you are coming to a forum where people have real world experience with the severely lacking Bren tunes IN REAL LIFE.

Your real world reputation is so bad that when a new Ducati owner comes here that bought a Bren tune before we have a chance to educate them we all kind give a collective sigh and think to ourselves: “Another one suckered into the Bren tune marketing machine…before we could inform them…poor guy.”

That’s the reputation you have to deal with here….you could over come it by actually starting to provide high quality detailed sophisticated tunes that work well for our members in real life, and over come your bad reputation…but that’s gunna take a lot of work on your company’s part, and you don’t add to your credibility when you say things like “we are the only ones providing great tunes” when many of us know from DIRECT experience that there are in fact MUCH better tunes out there than your firm has typically supplied.

So if you want to sell tunes here, don’t START by making demonstrably false claims lol

You are fun
You are literally the only person in the world to say that…some affiliation with BrenTuning?

Did you use the product? Do you even know what quality means?
 
You are fun


Did you use the product? Do you even know what quality means?

From the perspective of an observer with no real investment in the issue, your responses aren’t doing anything positive for Bren Tune. In fact, if I’m on the fence regarding a tune and seeing comments like yours, I’m more inclined to avoid Bren Tune than I might have been previously.
 
Chriss I havent used bren but feel free to do a search, the users on here have reported that the product and the service sucks which is why Deussen is used here at least because the reports on Deussen are the opposite, great service and the product does what it says on the box.
 
My experience with BrenTune was you order the device, then like normal you pull the VIN and current map off the bike with the device, then send it to Bren to get the tune…from there it all goes down hill, took nearly a month for them to send back my tune…when it came there was a disclosure saying essentially its a beta version that they think will do well on my bike…and that I should run it and give them feedback, so they can correct/revise the tune as they get reports back on it…it ran like ...., and would often stall out at lights etc., and was choppy and peaky everywhere else with little to no noticeable gain accept that it literally made the bike harder to ride.

So I did as requested, gave feedback and asked for an updated tune….i put the Akro UpMap back on that was a way better tune…after 3 or 4 weeks without hearing back from them I gave up on them and chalked the whole thing up as a wasted $700.

A year later Deussen came along, all of us gave him .... and put him through the ringer as a ‘new tuner’, but he calmly handled our forum ........ with clear and concise answers demonstrating his technical knowledge. So I gave him a shot. Got the device 2 days after ordering it, pull the VIN and current map off the bike and sent it to him, had my tune within 48 hours, the bike ran like OEM, the throttle was more smoothed out and I had a lot more power throughout the mid-range at my next track day…the bike was both easier to ride and had more fun grunt coming off an apex.

Completely different experiences…on the same bike, between the two tuners.

The only people who say good things about a BrenTune are people being paid by them or newbs that just got their bike and don’t know enough to know how ...... the tune is, or how to ride the bike fast, and come on here bragging about a BrenTune and their new clear clutch cover in the same sentence.
 
Chris’s, you didn’t immediately, (or ever) say no when I asked you if you had some affiliation with BrenTune…that gives me my answer ;-)

Buyer beware, Brentune specializes in making posts at forums like these that are designed to catch the casual observer newby Ducati owner, who doesn’t look very deeply into buying an accessory for their bike…and the buyers of Brentune do so out of ignorance OR because they buy the tune as a bragging rights accessory to post about, but don’t really RIDE these bikes.

They catch the newbies because they are efficient at being the 1st tuner out of the gates with a tune on the market for every new bike that comes out…they use a 1st to market strategy to catch new owners. But it’s precisely this strategy as to why their tunes SUCK…they make a beta version that SHOULD work okay, without ever even properly testing it or putting much care, thought, or time into it…again precisely because they want to be 1st and catch the new owners while they are still too ignorant to know they are buying crap.

Just my two cents based on experience.
 
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Got the device 2 days after ordering it, pull the VIN and current map off the bike and sent it to him, had my tune within 48 hours, the bike ran like OEM, the throttle was more smoothed out and I had a lot more power throughout the mid-range at my next track day…the bike was both easier to ride and had more fun grunt coming off an apex.
I think I had my tune within minutes. Had an error code as the BBS software version was not what the new ECU tune was expecting, had a revised tune in a few minutes which was perfect. Super smooth and tons of power everywhere.
 
You sounding really desperate to prove BT performance,

If you could understand that words mean nothing. Deussen had demonstrated both knowledge and competence.

BT needs to up their game, not by words.

That’s their whole jam though, when a new bike comes out they spam the forums trying to catch new bike owners with their ...... 1st to market tune…do you think it’s an accident that they are posting now as the new bike gets announced and new orders are being placed? As the bikes start getting delivered you will see more posts from them, then they’ll disappear again.
 
From the perspective of an observer with no real investment in the issue, your responses aren’t doing anything positive for Bren Tune. In fact, if I’m on the fence regarding a tune and seeing comments like yours, I’m more inclined to avoid Bren Tune than I might have been previously.

You say something without saying something. I don't see any fact from your side. I have used BT and Deussen
You sounding really desperate to prove BT performance,

If you could understand that words mean nothing. Deussen had demonstrated both knowledge and competence.

BT needs to up their game, not by words.
 

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