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Quite the achiever Calderara apparently,IMO and its been a while,slicks didn't take any noticeable difference in time to heat up over a cut production tyres,i never had issues with cold tear although i did see it,it was generally associated with the wrong tyre pressure and the word heat cycles was only used in the Boilermaker shop where i did my apprenticeship , seems to be a BUZZ word these days ,one lap of Oran Park and they were good to go,i have obviously hit a nerve with a few of the forum reader and maybe i shouldn't have called them ......s but ,REALLY, tyre warmers on a track day? .... me ,next they will be putting them on to go down the corner shop for bread and milk.
 
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Quite the achiever Calderara apparently,IMO and its been a while,slicks didn't take any noticeable difference in time to heat up over a cut production tyres,i never had issues with cold tear although i did see it,it was generally associated with the wrong tyre pressure and the word heat cycles was only used in the Boilermaker shop where i did my apprenticeship , seems to be a BUZZ word these days ,one lap of Oran Park and they were good to go,i have obviously hit a nerve with a few of the forum reader and maybe i shouldn't have called them ......s but ,REALLY, tyre warmers on a track day? .... me ,next they will be putting them on to go down the corner shop for bread and milk.
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You do have some good points on the subject but maybe it’s just your delivery...;)
 
fens said:
Quite the achiever Calderara apparently,IMO and its been a while,slicks didn't take any noticeable difference in time to heat up over a cut production tyres,i never had issues with cold tear although i did see it,it was generally associated with the wrong tyre pressure and the word heat cycles was only used in the Boilermaker shop where i did my apprenticeship , seems to be a BUZZ word these days ,one lap of Oran Park and they were good to go,i have obviously hit a nerve with a few of the forum reader and maybe i shouldn't have called them ......s but ,REALLY, tyre warmers on a track day? .... me ,next they will be putting them on to go down the corner shop for bread and milk.
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Ouch As I am the least qualified of all to leave comments that's a Robert Whitaker liver shot V4 base with targeted mods (added rider feel/confidence) should be win imo however am respectful of your opinion to understand symbiotics
All advice respected and appreciated cheers ride safe

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So tire warmers. After many years of riding and racing. From my days as an AMA and WERA rider in the 80 and 90s to my days of riding mostly track days in either advanced or expert depending on the club. I have come to this conclusion.

With DOT tires you by all means can enjoy some low to mid club level racing and track day events with out tire warmers.

However slicks on the other hand. TIRE WARMERS!!! Hell slicks can smack you in the ass if you come off the gas for a few laps and allow them to cool down.

It really comes down to the economics of it. Is having a flashy seat cover worth more to you than a nice set of single temp tire warmers or not.

For me I use the Chicken Hawk digital dual temp pro line warmers. And I leave my warmers on all day. Not powered up the whole day mind you but I do leave them on the bike all day.
 
Sorry Fens, I guess we have all had our day in the sun, both of us were a bit antagonistic with our posts.
Back to warmers, I'd say 90% of guys would be using at ride days . Just another tool available I guess.
 
Calderara di Reno said:
Yes the 4k team pursuit was one of my favourite disciplines. How about you ?
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I raced professional Six Day races so Madison was my favorite (points race, too) but I did manage to win the national road race title when they were dumb enough to put in on a rolling course without the high mountains. I do have a couple of TP medals, though.
 
The first time I brought tire warmers to a track day, there was a number of comments to me or behind back from some of the racers regarding use of warmers for track day riders.

When my lap times came back faster then some of these racers and my grading for when i when full race skipping both assessment & clubman class and going straight to SBK,
the "all the gear. no idea" talk quickly stopped and we got back to riding/racing and having fun like this is meant to be.


Some people wear custom Kangaroo D-Air suits to the cafe, others wear jeans to a track day........
End of day do what ever makes you warm and fuzzy.
 
DStyleNZL said:
The first time I brought tire warmers to a track day, there was a number of comments to me or behind back from some of the racers regarding use of warmers for track day riders.

When my lap times came back faster then some of these racers and my grading for when i when full race skipping both assessment & clubman class and going straight to SBK,
the "all the gear. no idea" talk quickly stopped and we got back to riding/racing and having fun like this is meant to be.


Some people wear custom Kangaroo D-Air suits to the cafe, others wear jeans to a track day........
End of day do what ever makes you warm and fuzzy.
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So if you're a first-time Ducati owner with a V4 base model and occasional track day rider it seems considered opinion would be warmers unnecessary all advice respected cheers ride safe

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GoShow95 said:
So if you're a first-time Ducati owner with a V4 base model and occasional track day rider it seems considered opinion would be warmers unnecessary all advice respected cheers ride safe

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on OEM tires, would bother. drop your pressures, direct after each session check them hot (and wear on tires) and go from there.
Other than that, just get those laps in, learn your lines and braking points to what you feel comfortable with and enjoy.
 
DStyleNZL said:
on OEM tires, would bother. drop your pressures, direct after each session check them hot (and wear on tires) and go from there.
Other than that, just get those laps in, learn your lines and braking points to what you feel comfortable with and enjoy.
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Understood the goal being to push bike/rider limits guaranteed to run out of talent before bike Road Rash hurts cheers

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Sherpa23 said:
I raced professional Six Day races so Madison was my favorite (points race, too) but I did manage to win the national road race title when they were dumb enough to put in on a rolling course without the high mountains. I do have a couple of TP medals, though.
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I'll pm you, our chat wouldnt interest the motorised guys .
 
GoShow95 said:
So if you're a first-time Ducati owner with a V4 base model and occasional track day rider it seems considered opinion would be warmers unnecessary all advice respected cheers ride safe

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Tyre warmers were designed for racing , to go fast from the very first lap where every hundredth of a second counts,a slight edge if you like, you don't need them for a track day,and like i said ,there are better things to spend your hard earned money on for track days ,like suspension components or tuition,take your time warm them up when your on the fat bit of the tyre for a couple of laps and off you go,
happy days !! enjoy.
 
Stopping the rear tyre tearing up and practically doubling tyre life, therefore saving
more in 2 or 3 trackdays than the warmers will cost you seems a little daft to ignore.
Regardless of anything else, they make fiscal sense.


I would rather be called a ...... etc and have the confidence in warm tyres
that last longer. A little name calling is far more tolerable than a trashed bike
and hospital food.
 

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