Took delivery of 1299 Superlegerra! Finally!

ryanfavro said:

Back to thread jacking.

I almost passed on going to Mugello and I'm so thankful I didn't. A year prior I crashed at the track and suffered a traumatic brain injury. Mugello was going be my first time back on the track. Riding a WSBK bike on an unknown track, what could go wrong riiight?

The trip turned out to be a once in a lifetime experience and not because of the track day. My buddy and I flew to Milan almost two weeks prior and rented two Multisradas. The plan was ride the Italian and Swiss Alps and work our way to Mugello. We rode all day everyday and stayed at new hotel every night.

Describing the journey as epic wouldn't do it justice, but my limited vocabulary has no other words to describe it. The roads, food, the people and their culture were amazing. And the Multistradas were the perfect bike for the adventure. Not once did I wish I was on any other bike.

The first leg of our journey went from Milan to Switzerland where we were going attempt to ride the Stelvio Pass. When Top Gear proclaimed it to be the best driving road in the world
they weren't kidding.

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Much more interesting , the wealth of experiences as aposed to the wealth of "what I own".
I can really appreciate that Michelin Star meal matched to wine,(I grown wine to match food), but one of my most memorable meals was riding my MTS on my own ,(having a 3 week head clear), through the Apinnines back to where I lived in the '80's, and stopping where the road workers eat to devour half a litre of Sango with chicken arrosto , potato, tomato and garlic, 11 euro, memorable !

This thread is getting good.

ryanfavro said:

One of the highlights was having the chance to eat lunch at Osteria Francescana https://www.osteriafrancescana.it. This place was ranked the #2 restaurant in the world and has three Michelin stars. If you watched Ducati’s 2018 EICMA presentation then you’ll have seen the chef Massimo Bottura, he owns the restaurant and is also a Ducatista. There was a one year waiting list to get in. Part way through our trip we managed to get a reservation. Someone had cancelled. We called an audible and raced to Modena.

The restaurant is also featured on Netflix’s
Chef’s Table show. The 16 course meal and paired wines was next level amazing. Also amazing was the 700€ price!!

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About a year ago I was in Maranello Italy for work with a company we do specliazed work for and one of the executives there took me for dinner at Osteria Francescana. Truly and incredible meal. I think we had seven courses and it was really special. I also had dinner at its sister restaurant in the old city of Modena and that was also incredible.

DucatiTerminator said:

I wouldn't look at it that way. I don't think it would be feasible to take a few of the serialized bikes for display/press purposes then sell them as new to any of the 500 customers who ordered them. The XXX bikes would accomplish this. I don't mind a display bike, but I don't want a press bike. I actually have an ex-press bike that I bought with 40 miles on it. Nothing wrong with it at all, but I did buy it at a substantial discount. If the SL is an ex-press bike, that might change things for me. Suter 500 GP anyone?

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The xxx bikes you have is one that's able to be sold. It's entirely possible that after its use on the show circuit or however it was used, it received a new carbon frame with a legit VIN and it was probably set to US spec. I do work for several of the world's best car manufacturers and I've had use of several prototypes and with those, they always get crushed (I had the prototype Rolls Royce Wraith for a week before it got crushed). However, there are pre production cars and bikes that eventually are sold. I'm sure that this is one of those. Depending on where in pre-production the bike was built, it doesn't even need a new frame or VIN.

As far as the number goes, it makes no difference. I am trying to find a 996R or 998R for my little collection. Very few of the 996Rs that came to the US actually had a number plaque. It doesn't make them any better or worse. If you like it and have the cash, then buy it.

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Nitrouz said:

Wow... That means that the "limited to 500" is a hoax and isn't true at all. Then they can make every bike limited and once they go past the limit, just go xxx or xxxx... I wonder how that works.

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Something important to add here is that the bike is question is an R/FE. R/FE's were never xxx/500. They are all numbered but unlimited in production. Ducati can make as many as they want and that has never been a secret. For what it's worth, on the 998R there two "000" bikes that are pre production and in existence.

Nice Pics!!

O dear... that Aston, what happened
I have one similar to that and if that was mine I would be in tears, it would be in a box on its way to Gaydon UK where the elves that build them could repair it.

Not nice to see ( like you guys are Ducati purists I'm an Aston man) even my under ware is branded Aston Martin or 007

Captain Greg said:

O dear... that Aston, what happened
I have one similar to that and if that was mine I would be in tears, it would be in a box on its way to Gaydon UK where the elves that build them could repair it.

Not nice to see ( like you guys are Ducati purists I'm an Aston man) even my under ware is branded Aston Martin or 007
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Captain, I know a lot of Aston owners but I've never met anyone I would consider a real Aston guy. Can you share a little about what makes them special to you, especially when compared to other sports cars?

BTW, Ryan, thank you for sharing your adventure and saving this thread!

DucatiTerminator said:

BTW, Ryan, thank you for sharing your adventure and saving this thread!

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No problem, I have lots more of the adventure to post later today.

Sherpa23 said:

The xxx bikes you have is one that's able to be sold. It's entirely possible that after its use on the show circuit or however it was used, it received a new carbon frame with a legit VIN and it was probably set to US spec. I do work for several of the world's best car manufacturers and I've had use of several prototypes and with those, they always get crushed (I had the prototype Rolls Royce Wraith for a week before it got crushed). However, there are pre production cars and bikes that eventually are sold. I'm sure that this is one of those. Depending on where in pre-production the bike was built, it doesn't even need a new frame or VIN.

As far as the number goes, it makes no difference. I am trying to find a 996R or 998R for my little collection. Very few of the 996Rs that came to the US actually had a number plaque. It doesn't make them any better or worse. If you like it and have the cash, then buy it.

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Something important to add here is that the bike is question is an R/FE. R/FE's were never xxx/500. They are all numbered but unlimited in production. Ducati can make as many as they want and that has never been a secret. For what it's worth, on the 998R there two "000" bikes that are pre production and in existence.

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Thank you for the info and clarification. Long story short, I was at the press conference for the SL unveiling in Milan and was told it was pretty much sold out, but that I should be able to get one. One of my big motivations was the Mugello experience that was intimated to me. Nevertheless, I had to postpone my decision due to a controversial financial obligation and missed my window. Fast forward a year later and I started looking for one again after EICMA, and they are almost non-existent. Unexpected great news that my local dealer got two of them this week, but they are XXX bikes. Hence my inquiry

Our tastes run similar indeed. 17 years ago, i tried to get on the list for a 996R, but they were as rare as the SL and fewer were brought to the North America. I failed. Fortunately, 2002 brought me better luck. BTW, I'm looking into finding out who owns the other 998R in the area and if he/she wants to sell it.

I do think the numbers are cool on the one hand, on the other, it isn't important to me because I don't look at exclusivity or collector value. I would just prefer that if I have to pay regular price for a new SL that it isn't a pre-ridden press bike. If that's the case, I'd rather wait and save money picking up a gently used garage queen a year or two from now.

Interesting factoid on the 998R prototypes. I guess that means 702 total But then again, I'd rather have the RS you formerly had

DucatiTerminator said:

Thank you for the info and clarification. Long story short, I was at the press conference for the SL unveiling in Milan and was told it was pretty much sold out, but that I should be able to get one. One of my big motivations was the Mugello experience that was intimated to me. Nevertheless, I had to postpone my decision due to a controversial financial obligation and missed my window. Fast forward a year later and I started looking for one again after EICMA, and they are almost non-existent. Unexpected great news that my local dealer got two of them this week, but they are XXX bikes. Hence my inquiry

Our tastes run similar indeed. 17 years ago, i tried to get on the list for a 996R, but they were as rare as the SL and fewer were brought to the North America. I failed. Fortunately, 2002 brought me better luck. BTW, I'm looking into finding out who owns the other 998R in the area and if he/she wants to sell it.

I do think the numbers are cool on the one hand, on the other, it isn't important to me because I don't look at exclusivity or collector value. I would just prefer that if I have to pay regular price for a new SL that it isn't a pre-ridden press bike. If that's the case, I'd rather wait and save money picking up a gently used garage queen a year or two from now.

Interesting factoid on the 998R prototypes. I guess that means 702 total But then again, I'd rather have the RS you formerly had

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That RS was very fun to ride. At the time, it was a very mind blowing experience. I bought it right off the race season and it was really special to use in "as-raced" trim and I loved every moment of it. Of course, as a high strung track only machine that had a lot of more-or-less one-off parts from Ducati Corse and was meant to be disassembled and rebuilt very frequently, it had limited use and I decided to move on. That bike is with a friend now and is in great hands.

Going back to the xxx bike you're looking at, just to avoid confusion, I did read that right and it's an R/FE and not an SL right? Because in the last post you mention an SL and I just want to make sure that I didn't read that wrong or mix things up.

I am still stuck on the 700 euro meal, lol

NOLA

Sherpa23 said:

That RS was very fun to ride. At the time, it was a very mind blowing experience. I bought it right off the race season and it was really special to use in "as-raced" trim and I loved every moment of it. Of course, as a track only machine, it had limited use and I decided to move on. That bike is with a friend now and is in great hands.

Going back to the xxx bike you're looking at, just to avoid confusion, I did read that right and it's an R/FE and not an SL right? Because in the last post you mention an SL and I just want to make sure that I didn't read that wrong or mix things up.

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I had a chance to buy an ex-Hodgson BSB RS, but simply couldn't afford it. Hopefully one day I'lll get some seat time on a RS, or better still, own one.

Sorry for the confusion. I went to the dealer to see the FE as they don't stay in showrooms very long (someone had backed out of it and it became available for sale). I saw it at Laguna Seca, but it was roped off and at EICMA on press day but too many people around it so it was the first time I could be intimate with the bike, lol. During my visit, I found out they were getting two 1299SL's, which I later found out were XXX bikes. They arrived yesterday.

DucatiTerminator said:

I had a chance to buy an ex-Hodgson BSB RS, but simply couldn't afford it. Hopefully one day I'lll get some seat time on a RS, or better still, own one.

Sorry for the confusion. I went to the dealer to see the FE as they don't stay in showrooms very long (someone had backed out of it and it became available for sale). I saw it at Laguna Seca, but it was roped off and at EICMA on press day but too many people around it so it was the first time I could be intimate with the bike, lol. During my visit, I found out they were getting two 1299SL's, which I later found out were XXX bikes. They arrived yesterday.

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Whoa. Awesome. So they're in fact pre-production 1299SL's. Very interesting indeed.

Sherpa23 said:

Whoa. Awesome. So they're in fact pre-production 1299SL's. Very interesting indeed.

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I believe there are only two pre-production/prototype 1299SL's (also XXX from what I understand) and being sold at a higher price with some other "collector" goodies.

Sherpa23 said:

Whoa. Awesome. So they're in fact pre-production 1299SL's. Very interesting indeed.

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Another little factoid. The number on the triples do not correlate to the bike’s VIN or production order. They are just randomly applied so far as I can tell. When I was touring the factory in August I saw bike #2 half through it’s asssembly. I also know people that ordered their bikes way after mine and they received a lower number bike.

I also tried to order my Speciale with the number 304 to match my Superleggera. Ducati can’t or wouldn’t do it.

ryanfavro said:

Another little factoid. The number on the triples do not correlate to the bike’s VIN or production order. They are just randomly applied so far as I can tell. When I was touring the factory in August I saw bike #2 half through it’s asssembly. I also know people that ordered their bikes way after mine and they received a lower number bike.

I also tried to order my Speciale with the number 304 to match my Superleggera. Ducati can’t or wouldn’t do it.

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I did know that. It’s not uncommon either. I have some limited production cars and they’re the same way.

What is very surprising is that Ducati would not match your FE to your SL. That doesn’t seem so difficult, especially if you gave them enough notice. Interesting for sure because you think they would want to accommodate certain clients.

Bloody great thread now!
Thanks guys

Sherpa23 said:

I did know that. It's not uncommon either. I have some limited production cars and they're the same way.

What is very surprising is that Ducati would not match your FE to your SL. That doesn't seem so difficult, especially if you gave them enough notice. Interesting for sure because you think they would want to accommodate certain clients.

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I agree, yet I have a colleague that is tight with Ducati Corse and didn't get his 1199SL with his racing number (with which he took a few national titles, a couple for Ducati as I recall). A call to Claudio last year secured him the number on the 1299SL.

Sherpa23 said:

Captain, I know a lot of Aston owners but I've never met anyone I would consider a real Aston guy. Can you share a little about what makes them special to you, especially when compared to other sports cars?

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Im an Aston Man pure and simple started, when I was about 6 years old...I own a 2017 DB11 I own a Vantage N430 (my baby) I have personally restored a DB5 by hand over 20 years and it cost me my marriage my relationship with my baby girl (now some 38 Years old!) Its a love affair that I cant explain I have flown with Marc Wolf on the set of Of James Bond movies (sony and Metro) I have got up close and personal with these cars and if I had the means of King I would own Chitty Chitty Bang Bang
I own a Mclaren 570 and have on order a 720...nice cars but no personality.

I drive a Range Rover sport as my every day car and a few weeks ago purchased a Shelby Ford Mustang V8 to add to my out of control passion and love affair I have for cars, not bragging just saying.... I also Ride (like a girl a 1299 Base Ducati) and she is a recovering leak adict

I wash my Aston myself and love it I hand polish them and I have never driven any of my Aston's in the rain, I drive the N430 Like I stole it !! and she begs for more
I love it that these cars dont beg or ask for attention with much of the public not even noticing them, Its not an R8 or a Porsche that says please look at me, I still have hair and I dont own a gold chain, when this changes I will drive a Ferrari...

I had a very brief affair with an Aventador but its public precence and costant asking how fast and how much put me off.

Does this qualify me as an Aston guy?.......
I dont know. Look me up on 6speed on line Im a well respect contributor on the Aston forum

Ryan Favro!!

You should have a web site you should share your pure love of Ducati and the xp you have gleaned from it with us Joe average... pity it took a thread like this to get you to share your passion.
I suppose you also dont want to stand out like a dick but really bud your Ducati exp can only be dreamt of by many, of be proud of it .. we are and I dont even know you .

Greg

PS that road in the pics...bet I would wipp our ass if your on your bike and Im in my N430.....


....Ok Im just talking .... I got confused with you and King!

Captain Greg said:

Ryan Favro!!

You should have a web site you should share your pure love of Ducati and the xp you have gleaned from it with us Joe average... pity it took a thread like this to get you to share your passion.
I suppose you also dont want to stand out like a dick but really bud your Ducati exp can only be dreamt of by many, of be proud of it .. we are and I dont even know you .

Greg

PS that road in the pics...bet I would wipp our ass if your on your bike and Im in my N430.....


....Ok Im just talking .... I got confused with you and King!

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doit lol