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So, you can get an UpMap kit for the 2021 SF (EU5 exhaust) and a map for the Akra slip on but still no map for the 2021 bike?

The UpMap kit is simply the same device with an EU5 adapter I presume.

Has anyone yet UpMapped a 2021 EU5 bike and unplugged the lambda sensors on that bike?

EDIT: Response from Termi customer service:

"If you have a Euro5 specification bike, of course you have to use a Euro5 map otherwise the 2021 bikes non Euro 5 are 100% similar to the 2020 model.

About the lambda, you have to follow the recommendation of UpMap, so on the Eu5, you have to remove the 4 lambdas and replace them by plugs."


So, this would imply that there are already maps available for the EU5 bikes. Wasn't aware of that.

'replace them by plugs' is a little disconcerting. That would mean removing the sensors from the exhaust rather than just unplugging the connectors?
 
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So, you can get an UpMap kit for the 2021 SF (EU5 exhaust) and a map for the Akra slip on but still no map for the 2021 bike?

The UpMap kit is simply the same device with an EU5 adapter I presume.

Has anyone yet UpMapped a 2021 EU5 bike and unplugged the lambda sensors on that bike?

EDIT: Response from Termi customer service:

"If you have a Euro5 specification bike, of course you have to use a Euro5 map otherwise the 2021 bikes non Euro 5 are 100% similar to the 2020 model.

About the lambda, you have to follow the recommendation of UpMap, so on the Eu5, you have to remove the 4 lambdas and replace them by plugs."


So, this would imply that there are already maps available for the EU5 bikes. Wasn't aware of that.

'replace them by plugs' is a little disconcerting. That would mean removing the sensors from the exhaust rather than just unplugging the connectors?

Removing them is only to keep from fouling them up. If you were to leave them in and then try to return the bike to stock with the Ducati maps, they wouldn't work and you'd have to buy new ones.
If you never plan to use them again, just unplug them.
 
Removing them is only to keep from fouling them up. If you were to leave them in and then try to return the bike to stock with the Ducati maps, they wouldn't work and you'd have to buy new ones.
If you never plan to use them again, just unplug them.

Helpful, thanks. Still trying to figure out the unplugging process for the EU5 bike. Not sure if the wiring connectors are also under the tank and if there are 4 instead of just 2 or if the 4 sensors still run into 2 connectors.
 
Helpful, thanks. Still trying to figure out the unplugging process for the EU5 bike. Not sure if the wiring connectors are also under the tank and if there are 4 instead of just 2 or if the 4 sensors still run into 2 connectors.

Sorry, I have a US spec '21 still Euro 4, can't help with that one other than to say just try and chase the wiring from the sensors themselves.

*Edit* If you go to the My Ducati section of Ducati.com, you should be able to see the spare parts catalogue/pdf. It should show you how many O2 sensors you have as a starting point.

This is the front header for mine, you can see only 1 O2 sensor, #19. Rear header also shows just 1

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Problem is that it is very obvious to the service agent that the bike is not OEM once the Ducati dongle is plugged in... So better to discuss beforehand.

I just asked my dealer. Their response was, "If you add any third party accessories, not sold from Ducati, you will void warranty alltogether. Even if the error is not related to the parts." You have a slip on? Sorry, but your failing clutch switch is no longer a valid warranty claim.
What a joke!
 
I just asked my dealer. Their response was, "If you add any third party accessories, not sold from Ducati, you will void warranty alltogether. Even if the error is not related to the parts." You have a slip on? Sorry, but your failing clutch switch is no longer a valid warranty claim.
What a joke!

You have a garbage dealer. The warranty is not for the bike as a whole entity, as in changing something doesn't void the warranty of everything else. A good dealer would have told you the truth; changing out parts only voids the warranty for that part system. For example, swapping exhausts voids any warranty coverage for exhaust leaks and whatnot, obviously.

When I got my full system, I asked the question and my dealer walked me through the fine print. The only way the warranty is voided by aftermarket parts is if the aftermarket part can be deemed to be the reason why the failure occured. For example, despite changing the intake/exhaust, if something unrelated like the front sprocket output shaft starts leaking, it is covered under warranty. If the motor drops a valve, it is covered under warranty as long as the system is not deemed to be the issue (such as running too lean or whatever).

Get a new dealer. Yours is trying to strong arm you because warranty claims are a hassle. Ducati is in the business of pinching pennies, so the labor hours they allot for warranty services are very low and not negotiable. Dealers make more money by keeping it in-house so they can adjust the hours and get more money for the job.

That being said, an aftermarket tune basically means any engine failure will be an uphill battle for warranty claims. But everything else, such as a bad clutch switch or slave cylinder, is 100 percent still covered by warranty.
 
It's too bad that it is such an issue with semantics around the aftermarket maps. The real problem with the OEM maps is that they have to meet emissions standards (and noise standards which have a secondary effect). The aftermarket maps are simply undoing that and allowing the engine to run more efficiently- as mentioned elsewhere this typically means the fueling is richer, not leaner, to accommodate the higher airflow. So the dealers get pissed that their customer gets better performance without spending the $$ with them and want to create reasons to not service that customer anymore. That dealer response above means if you put aftermarket brake pads on then your warranty is out the window, total crap.

If you can find a dealer affiliated with organized track days, you will have a lot more leeway as they will want to help you set your bike up for that and be willing to have real world conversations about mods since they are track rats/racers too.
 
It's too bad that it is such an issue with semantics around the aftermarket maps. The real problem with the OEM maps is that they have to meet emissions standards (and noise standards which have a secondary effect).

Apart from the SF V4S I also have a Super Duke R and last week saw a posting on the KTM forum from KTM that as from 2022 no new Super Duke will be manufactured as they will ONLY concentrate on ELECTRIC vehicles.... If this is true, it will be tragic. Are there any such rumors in the Ducati camp??
 
I agree, a totally non acceptable approach by the dealer. When confronting them, they said that it's not their own decision to make. It is Ducati that neglect warranty claims under these conditions. Sometimes Ducati asks for detailed pictures of the whole bike. If they detect third party components they refuse warranty.

This is the explanaition I got from the dealer. True or false, I don't know.
 
Hi guys i have a streetfighter v4 euro4, i have fitted the akra completed, someone tried the map from termignoni with t800?
 
Does anyone have an definitive answer about the o2 sensor? I have the arrow slip ons with the performance upmap. Manni from moto says to leave them in?
 
On the UpMap issue... how does the next owner of my SF V4 change my login detail for the UpMap app to access the T800 dongle? I mailed UpMap two weeks ago and Zero reply... Regards!
 


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