V4 Superleggera: So Who Is Ordering One?

The Avidmoto said:

No. I am going to save for the Porsche that I have been dreaming about. But if I was going to buy it I would pay the money to ride the GP20!

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You can always buy Porsche but you dont get a chance to ride GP20 in Italy often.

Has anyone seen MotoGP bikes selling lately? Somehow Ducati Desmosedici GP12 fell into private hands. The same goes for Nicky Hayden's Ducati GP bike.

But this is simply amazing.



Also interesting:
https://ultimatemotorcycling.com/2015/01/26/man-bought-rossi-motogp-ducati-gp11-essay/

I also understand that the WSBK & GP experiences have age limits (I think 60 for GP & 65 for WSBK). Not that it matters but thought that was interesting.

Definitely approaching my use by date! Mind you so is Rossi so we have that in common.

1299rFE said:

Not sure if i would listen to the wife, actually in-fact, i know i wouldn't. Perhaps this is an underlying reason i am getting a divorce ?

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Bikes just show up. I dont ask permission. Dont like it, there's the door.

If money isn't really an issue for you and you wouldn't miss the money out of your bank account, then I'd 100% go for the whole GP experience. I really do feel like this is a once in a lifetime opportunity and usually money can't even buy that experience.
For me, that'd be a highlight in life and couldn't put a price tag on that. Plus, nothing beats owning a bike from brand. Definitely worth paying the extra premium to be the first owner, but that's just me.

Considering A wildcard entry in a MotoGP round is close to $100k...if you get accepted.....
When the 1299 SL got released their were people who brought it for the WSBK ride experience and the SL was flogged off a small time later.

I think, if you have a chance to buy happiness and you can afford it, then you are making the right decision to purchase the V4 Superleggera (both the bike and the experience).

I'd buy one if I had that kind of dispensable income, but alas I'm just a measly veterinarian and despite how much school I went to won't ever make enough to justify dropping that much coin on a bike. My 1199sl I bought used 4 years after the fact was still a lot if money for my budget even in the used market. I really liked having such a cool bike, but tbh it left me kind of wondering where the value was in the price tag. Other than the aesthetic and exclusivity mybother bikes seem to be much more bang for the buck I terms of build quality and reliability. Having said that, again, if I have 100k to spend and not feel guilty about......yeah I'd buy the new sl

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Thank you all for the replies. It doesn't seem like anyone here is considering ordering one, which is quite the reasonable and rational direction.

As far as all of the replies as to "if the money doesn't matter..." Well if the money didn't matter then it wouldn't be a difficult decision whatsoever. But, for better or for worse, that amount of money is significant and does matter to me and so it is quite the hard decision. That is why I thought it would be helpful to hear from others who made the decision to order one and maybe hear what swayed them.

I still have time to think about it. I am leaning in a certain direction although I am unsure of how this is going to end up.

Sherpa23 said:

It doesn't seem like anyone here is considering ordering one

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It sure doesn’t. Those people probably have they’re own exclusive forum because they’re special

Sherpa23 said:

Thank you all for the replies. It doesn't seem like anyone here is considering ordering one, which is quite the reasonable and rational direction.

As far as all of the replies as to "if the money doesn't matter..." Well if the money didn't matter then it wouldn't be a difficult decision whatsoever. But, for better or for worse, that amount of money is significant and does matter to me and so it is quite the hard decision. That is why I thought it would be helpful to hear from others who made the decision to order one and maybe hear what swayed them.

I still have time to think about it. I am leaning in a certain direction although I am unsure of how this is going to end up.

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I think if the money does matter that's your answer right there. It's a motorcycle. It will depreciate like a mofo in the first 5 years. After one year the novelty of having it will wear off and the guilt of spending so much will set in. Just my 2 cents..wait for a used one that just say in someone's garage cause they were to afraid to get it dirty.

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Although my budget isn't even on the level of a new R, one thing is almost guaranteed n that is I'll never buy a bike brand new again. Doesn't matter what brand. Too many bikes (all brands) end up for sale either shortly after purchase or couple years later with very few miles put on it. Give me the 20-30% discount any day over new, plus avoid the dealer fees and 1st service.

I'm with all of you guys. Just can't justify the price and depreciation. Looks like a cool bike with lots of tech. Not crazy about the aero, but i'm sure that will grow on me. But taking a $40K hit in the first couple of years for a motorcycle is a tough proposition. I think gnance and double have it right. Most of these won't see any miles and once the novelty wears off they will be on the second hand market for a significant discount. The V4R is such an amazing piece of kit for half price. It's the better option for me. At least for now.

2020 RSV4X #10/10
2019 RSV4 1100
2019 V4R
2018 V4 Speciale #56
2017 1299 SL #343
2017 Monster 1200R
2017 MV Dragster RC #97
2016 Norton Dominator SS #143
2014 1199 SL #102
2009 1098R Bayliss #269
2008 D16RR #1139
2006 SC mono
2005 999R
2002 998R #446 AND #461
2001 996R #114 AND 0 mile
1994 RC45 #48
1993 888 SPO
1993 supermono #7
1990 RC30 #37 AND #42
1978 CB750

"after all....who really needs a v4SL anyway"...??

RD16RR said:

2020 RSV4X #10/10
2019 RSV4 1100
2019 V4R
2018 V4 Speciale #56
2017 1299 SL #343
2017 Monster 1200R
2017 MV Dragster RC #97
2016 Norton Dominator SS #143
2014 1199 SL #102
2009 1098R Bayliss #269
2008 D16RR #1139
2006 SC mono
2005 999R
2002 998R #446 AND #461
2001 996R #114 AND 0 mile
1994 RC45 #48
1993 888 SPO
1993 supermono #7
1990 RC30 #37 AND #42
1978 CB750

"after all....who really needs a v4SL anyway"...??

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HAHA!! Clearly I have a problem. Incurable condition...

I think the depreciation argument is fallacious, once you've spent the cash its gone for the duration of ownership and after that its just cutting losses. You buy these for emotional reasons, then perhaps you try and justify it but the facts are pretty plain- you cant justify 100k on a motorcycle for any practical reason.

Paul G said:

I think the depreciation argument is fallacious, once you've spent the cash its gone for the duration of ownership and after that its just cutting losses. You buy these for emotional reasons, then perhaps you try and justify it but the facts are pretty plain- you cant justify 100k on a motorcycle for any practical reason.

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"practical"..??...LOL....we'd all be taking the bus

Paul G said:

I think the depreciation argument is fallacious, once you've spent the cash its gone for the duration of ownership and after that its just cutting losses. You buy these for emotional reasons, then perhaps you try and justify it but the facts are pretty plain- you cant justify 100k on a motorcycle for any practical reason.

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That doesn’t make any sense. I am not a very good seller of things. Its rare that I part with anything that I buy. Consequently, the money that I spend on anything is “lost” so to speak. I won’t see it back as I probably won’t sell anything. That said, the less I spend on something means the more money I retain.

Youre right in that depreciation doesn’t matter to me in that I don’t care how much something that I am using has depreciated. I bought it to use it so it’s silly to not use it. However, depreciation does matter in that the less I pay for something means the more money I retain (novel concept, I know).

There is no doubt that there is a monetary advantage in waiting to buy used (there’s that whole depreciation thing) but at what (non-financial) cost over buying new? That’s what I have been trying to get at.

The question is largely irrelevant now anyway. I got a lot of very nice feedback here (thank you) that helped me sort through most of my thinking on this. Literally only one other person here is ordering one (you know who you are and thank you for the pm) and, like any good ocd over thinker, I already made a pro and cons list and full financial analysis. Getting close to a decison.

Sherpa23 said:

I bought it to use it so it’s silly to not use it.

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Yup... except the Superleggera, that should only be used to look at while it sits on display on its motorized lazy Susan



use it as a fine piece of art, not as a motorcycle